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Old 11-23-2000, 12:58 AM
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Default Uefa Cup Thursday !

Interesting objects !
Home Draw Away
Shaktar Donetsk vs Celta Vigo 2.40 2.95 2.80
Club Brugge vs Barcelona 3.40 3.15 2.00
Bordeaux vs Werder Bremen 1.75 3.30 4.20

Can I tempt you to discuss these objects. Barcelona, althouhg not in great shape back home, against Club Brugge should be an intersting candidate at even money. Or, what about German team Werder Bremen for a value play on Draw & Away.

Any comments ?

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Old 11-23-2000, 05:16 AM
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You must like Bremen. Your odds on Bordeux are the highest around. I don't understand why, though. Bordeux is the top of LeChamp right now, and Bremen are 14th in the Bundy. Bundy's tougher league, but only by a bit I think, and this game's in France.

I do like, and hereby do pick:
Shaktar Donetsk 2.40, hosting Celta Vigo.
It's COLD in the Ukraine.
It's NICE in Spain.
So when a 1 win, 4 loss away team travels to a 5 win, 1 draw home team which also won 2 of 3 at home in the Champion's League, you got a home bet.

Olympiakos 2.30 hosting Liverpool.
The Greeks are undefeated at home in 3 years of CL contests, including wins over much much tougher than this (Real Madrid and Valencia, for ex.) Pool is a sad 1-2-4 away team this year, and has only just squeaked through the early rounds to get here.

Brugge 3.05 hosting Barcelona.
Home toughie, undefeated in 13 domestically, maybe Anderlecht's better, getting the price vs. a disintgrating Barca? I'll bite, soccer sucker that I am.

Good luck.
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Old 11-23-2000, 11:42 AM
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I do also think, that betting on Eastern European teams in November is a good idea.
Moscow now -5 Degrees - evening /night -11 Degrees !!!!!
As I know Ukraine and Russian championships have ended about one or two weeks ago.
(and if it is even too cold for the Ruskies, Spain teams will have serious problems - such matches look very funny - one side in shorts, the other side dressed like downhill racers)
For me the ending of the championship short time ago seems to be ideal, because they had a chance to rest and are not out of practise.
I am on Shaktor 2,6 and Lok Moscow 2,1 - both at Interwetten.
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Old 11-23-2000, 04:08 PM
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These guys at Interwetten, maybe sometimes they have a good number, Kent. But usually they seem to have that old-fashioned terrible juice. 17% hold on normal soccer bets.

Just checked out their NBA quotes -125 on BOTH sides.

1/2 goal handicap soccer games: -125 on one side, -154 on the other. That's brutal, and unbeatable.

So my question is, how often are you finding them a useful out? And have you thought about opening with some of the alternatives, like Pinnacle, Yabet, Canbet and Olympic, all of whom offer much better odds?

By the way, I take it you are Austrian or German. If I use any words that don't translate easily for you (not to assume that, and not to insult you at all by suggesting that it might sometimes be a problem), let me know.
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Old 11-23-2000, 04:20 PM
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Thanks PokeJoe - as I said our own handicapping leave you with some good picks. Our opinion is that WB goes for a draw and will be happy with that and that this team has some history internationally that needs to be taken in to consideration. Of course we also hold BD as favorite but maybe not as much as the others.

I also agree with Kent there - Central / south European teams tend to be bad on Eastern European soil. When f.ex the stars of Man U or whatever team travel to East Europe they seem to be intimidated by the bad housing, different food (bad), the “mafia cloud” and the general hospitality level of those countries. When these guys come to play it is like the cold war appears again. Trust me they are not welcome. And then of course you have the weather factor also. So the conclusion: there are some good picks on Eastern Europe soil as visitors are happy with the draw.

Shaktar Donetsk is a strong pick !

Ben
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Old 11-23-2000, 07:41 PM
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PokerJoe,
I have found this site about a month ago and was happy, that there is somebody around, who is interested in European soccer.
I was disappointed, when you decided to quit your predicts.
And I am very happy you have decided to come back.
Why do you think I am from Austria or Germany ?
Beside, you are right, I am from Austria, but I would be interested - how did you know ?

According to Interwetten:
I know, they mostly have terrible odds, but sometimes they have the best, like this week‘s UEFA-Cup.

To Ben from Yabet
I have tested your system with the free 50 $ (I have reached 200$ and then I thought I could double my win with a (stupid ?!?) NHL-game – and I lost).
But I did like your site.
I will be back, when I have the 1000 $, to qualify for the 25% bonus.
Do you intend to offer over/under in soccer ?
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Old 11-23-2000, 07:51 PM
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Hello Kent B !

We are looking in to offering Spread and Over/Under on these leagues before Christmas :

English Premier
Spanish Primera
Italian Serie A

Is that something that will be appreciated ? Please comment - we have the opportunity to offer this on more leagues but you tell me!

We currently carry some +20 leagues so this can be done !

Ben
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Old 11-23-2000, 07:55 PM
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Kent, just guessing because Interwetten is there.

Boy, did I get knocked around today.

I think Arsenal's disaster yesterday must have injected the other Euro squads with a huge dose of conservatism, as both cold games end 0-0.

Barca, I should have known, this year just plays opposite of form. I had them to beat Real Madrid figuring they'd reverse; unfortunately, I didn't have them today when they did the same thing.

But a draw when you go for the win, or a loss with a dog to Barcelona, that's within the realm of normal expectations. Liverpool's showing in Greece is VERY surprising. Good for them.

Knocks me down to +18.67 units on 105 bets here. Up and down, up and down. I assume there's no one here who doesn't know this is gambling.
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Old 11-23-2000, 08:07 PM
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PokerJoe
I was on Lok and Donetzk today and on Spartak yesterday.
But the sad thing of the story is, that I have not recogniced, that the Spartak match yesterday did begin about two hours earlier than the other CL-games.
(I think that was the third time I missed such a match and stupidness must be jugded).
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Old 11-25-2000, 03:19 PM
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right thread.

Jeez, if you think I was kidding about expecting Olympiakos to win at home, and not merely tie, pity their coach. I mean, the guy's team is in first place in their league, and that's not good enough. He loses his job because he merely tied a team at home?

From onefootball.com:

Matzourakis walks out, Fernandez starts talks
Saturday 25th November 2000


Yiannis Matzourakis bowed to massive pressure on Saturday morning and resigned as Olympiakos coach. The 52-year-old quit after the Greek club began negotiations with former Athletic Bilbao boss Luis Fernandez.

Olympiakos are top of the League but disappointing European form has cost the Romanian-born coach his job.

Poor away performances meant the club dropped out of the Champions' League at the first hurdle, despite winning all their home games in a group consisting of Valencia, Lyon and Heerenveen.

The final straw came on Thursday when a disjointed and unmotivated Olympiakos were lucky to draw 2-2 with Liverpool – and the fans turned on Matzourakis, who took the helm earlier in the year.

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