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Old 05-30-2006, 08:20 PM
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I don't know if any of you saw the Hungary friendly today but it was a piss poor performance despite the scoreline and they were lucky to win. Jamie Carragher as a starter? are you freaking kidding me? injuries will do this team in. they haven't had a true number one keeper since seaman and some would argue since shilton. ashley cole is a good choice at LB but he's injured. Terry and Ferdinand with Campbell to sub in if needed is an above average central defence core but hardly anything to write home about. neville should not be in this squad, never mind starting at RB!! Midfield is not actually that bad, but playing Carragher in the holding role and Gerrard pushing up is a waste of their talents. J Cole and Beckham are good choices for the wingers, but Gerrad and Lampard should both be in the centre of midfield, not just one of them. Owen looks like he's lost out there without a big man to take the play from, but you can't start Crouch and Owen because if Owen pulls up lame who's going to replace him? This 17 year old kid? England have 25 better options at striker and Sven should have named Defoe or Johnson or anyone really except this 17 year old Wolcott. They are in big trouble and will be very lucky to make it past the second round. Teams like Holland, Brazil, Argentina, Portugual and even Italy and Germany will rip this team to shreds.
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Old 05-30-2006, 10:41 PM
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As long as it goes to PK, you're safe fading england. I'm sure they are all lining up NOT to take the PK in the England camp considering their past and more recent history.

I think Sweden is not as good as they have been in the past, so England probably wins their group. Paraguay is a shade of their 2002 team. T&T? Dynamite waiting to self implode.

England is lethal off set plays so overs might be a good option. They will leak at the back because they don't really have goaltending. As bad as he is, Calamity James might be their best option. They will have to win games 3-1,3-2 because they will not keep a lot of clean sheets. Reminds me a lot of their 2000 Euro team.
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:14 AM
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VC had a 10/1 offer on England yesterday to win the WC. Any one else take a shot?

Also, Paddy Power is doing refunds if the team you bet on (outrights) loses in PKs. Not bad, eh?
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Old 05-31-2006, 10:43 AM
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I am going to try to lay the shit out of the English the whole way through. I don't see where the goals are coming from, and the wingbacks and goalkeepers are a real concern. 4-5-1 doesn't seem too bad because their midfield is pure class, and I actually rate Carragher pretty highly, but it's a funny time to start contemplating it...the tournament starts next week.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:58 PM
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Start with the futures. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] England has a fairly easy way into the semis. But that's where the fun stops.

Good, any suspicions that we might be underestimating the French a tad? Surely 15/1 is a bit too much...
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Old 05-31-2006, 09:09 PM
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I think England will get knocked out as soon as they meet a decent defenssive team after the group stage. They are more overrated than ever.. Seeing them ranked 3rd to take the cup on Betfair and about all books is just too funny..
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Old 06-01-2006, 08:59 AM
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On the other hand-one shouldnīt underestimate England either.Ranked third is certainly too high,but that is just how things are with patriotic betting.
I never fancied Robinson all that much.He is a decent keeper I guess-but nothing more.John Terry is just worldclass.Ferdinand is not in that class,,but certainly a quality defender anyways.Neville and Cole is both decent.
Jamie Carragher was sensational against Hungary in the defensive midfield role against Hungary according to Swedish newspapers(yes,they are better than The Sun!).Steven Gerrard was MOTM playing behind Crouch/Owen/Walcott.Joe Cole can make a fool outta anyone when having his day.Beckham still plays menacing cross balls and Lampard can burst into bloom at any given moment during the tournament.
Peter Crouch had an impressive performance against Hungary.Walcott is fast..but not ready yet.Owens and Rooneys physical status is pending.England WILL replace Rooney if examination 7 June doesnīt go well.
England...Okay keeper(I guess,still hesitant)...good defense...absolutely WORLDCLASS midfield..and if Owen and/or Rooney get backs into it...England is a solid team that shouldnīt be underestimated.
Even without Rooney,England will be a tough nut to crack with that classy midfield.
We certainly has a fair chance of beating England(we always has)-but I fail to see how Paraguay can be considered a real threat at this point.Struggling against Georgia,and basically only Nelson Valdez impressing so far.Paraguay always dependant of a strong central line..Chilavert-Gamarra-Acuna-Santa Cruz.Chilavert is gone,no one in that class to replace him.Gamarra still solid,just not worldclass as he used to be.Acuna slower and not as good anymore and Santa Cruz almost out with injury.
No,Sweden and England to advance from group B.
Oooh..I forgot T&T!
Nothing to forget really.The Soca Warriors is my choice for worst team of the tournament.
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Old 06-01-2006, 01:32 PM
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I agree with England not having any troubles getting out of the group stage due to Paraguay and T&T beeing so weak. But I dont see them getting very far in the knock-out stage. I dont see Sweden losing to them in group stage either.. But we will have to see, I dont have such high thoughts of some of the same players as you do. I do agree that their midtfield is very good, thanks to Gerrard and Lampard, but their current defence and attack is not anything that can impress me at all. Imagine an English attack with Peter Crouch and Wallcott ? Lol..
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:05 PM
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But Crouch/Walcott ainīt gonna be no starting lineup for England upfront,see.
Walcott is gonna remain on da bench-no matter what.Either Rooney comes back..or not.Still leaves Owen and Crouch-with Svens choich Defoe/AJ(I prefer AJ)as first sub.Owen also out?..that leaves Crouch and Defoe/AJ.
That is gonna be Englands starting lineup.I donīt think they will have five guys occupying midfield against Paraguay.
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:27 PM
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If Rooney doesn't make it back, they're not allowed to replace him......he was injured before Sven named the squad.
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Old 06-01-2006, 08:45 PM
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You sure about that?
I mean,that was the whole point of forwarding it(so to speak)to June 7.
I thought deadline was 9 of June.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:15 AM
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Deadline is 24 hours before your first game I think.
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Old 06-04-2006, 05:43 PM
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you can change your list anytime up until 24 hours before your first match or the first match of the tourney, i'm not sure which, but i do know that you can only change a player if he was injured between the time you named him and the start of the tourney. rooney was injured before the list was named, hence he won't be eligible to be swopped out unless he suffers an injury between now and friday.
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Old 06-07-2006, 06:23 AM
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I change my mind regarding England.They deserve to be rated third in the betting IMO.Rooney does look like he might be fit to play,certainly later on in tourney anyway.Owen starts to look good as well.
Looking at the squad,this is the best England team Iīve seen..ever.Better than the teams of 86 and 90-even if those had Gary Lineker.
I think a european team will win the WC.Fancied Hollands chances before...but I gonna have to change my mind.
England will win the WC!
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Old 06-07-2006, 06:29 AM
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Paddy Power will refund up to 300 Euros I think if the team you bet on drops out on penalties. Looking at England it seems that if they get knocked out then it will be in a shoot out.
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:15 PM
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Any thoughts on what the line will end up for the England v Paraguay match? I will have a good do on Paraguay +1 at even money or a fair do at 1.85 - 1.95, but essentially I don't want to miss the boat being greedy waiting,

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Old 06-07-2006, 08:30 PM
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The longer you wait, the more favoured England will become. I don't know where it will end up but I guarantee you you will not get a better price on England by waiting.
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:33 PM
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It'll have to come back at some point, surely? As you say, there will be floods of money for England, but at some point the buy back will start. I want to jump in at the point it does [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

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Old 06-08-2006, 02:43 AM
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I don't know what you guys see in Paraguay. Sure the price is right, but what would it take for you guys to bet ingaland? I'm sitting on -0.5 -124 and have no reason to believe I should try to insure it.

It is quite possible that Paraguay was trying to pull a fast one throughout the friendly season, but I feel their overall defense shape is a bit over the hill. Too many guys on the wrong side of 30 to stay with that english midfield. Without Cardozo now, will they throw Santa Cruz out in the opener and risk it all or do they wait for the Sweden game? I think the physical approach by Terry and company will keep Paraguay off the board and if you're hoping for 0-0 with that tough but less than mobile defense (think lots of free kick inside 30 yrs) you're in for a heart attack special.

England wins it easily thanks to some smart set plays, some quick combinations and flawless defense (did I really say that? I hope no Neville will be involved).

Final score 2-0 England
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