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Old 01-07-2006, 10:29 AM
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http://football.guardian.co.uk/break...528122,00.html

Mexico hit by another naturalisation row

MEXICO CITY, Jan 6 (Reuters) - Mexico's national team has been hit by another row over naturalised players after coach Ricardo La Volpe said he was interested in the services of Argentine-born midfielder Walter Gaitan.

La Volpe already has two naturalised players in his squad -- Brazilian-born midfielder Antonio Naelson and Argentine-born foward Guillermo Franco -- and the subject has split Mexican football down the middle.

Critics are especially angry because La Volpe has overlooked Mexican-born midfielder Cuauhtemoc Blanco and striker Adolfo Bautista, who many feel deserve a place in the squad.

The volatile Blanco, in particular, is regarded by many as Mexico's best player.

On Friday, Gaitan told the sports daily Record that he had met La Volpe and said he identified more with Mexico than the country of his birth.

"I've known for a long time that it's very unlikely (to be picked for Argentina) and I want to play football, I want to dream about going to the World Cup," he said. "I love Argentina but now I spend more time here and I identify more closely with the people of Mexico. If I have a chance to represent them, I will do my best."

Earlier this week, La Volpe told the sports newspaper Record: "The media are very enthusiastic about Cuauhtemoc and Bofo (Bautista), but I believe that if, in the last two championships, we have to talk about a goalscoring midfielder, then it is Gaitan. "As far as I'm concerned, he's Mexican."

THREE YEARS

Naelson, who has lived in the country for nearly 10 years and is married to a Mexican, was the first foreign-born player to be picked by La Volpe. He was a regular in the qualifiers and became the first naturalised player to score for Mexico when he was on target in a 3-0 win over Trinidad & Tobago.

Franco, who plays for Monterrey, was then picked to face Guatemala in October when Mexico had already qualified. Unlike Naelson, he has only been in the country for three years.

Former Mexico international Hugo Sanchez has led the crusade against the use of naturalised players, saying he would be saddened if his country were to win the World Cup with a team of players born outside Mexico.

Toluca president Rafael Lebrija said: "I don't agree because the only naturalised player who played in the team which qualified was Naelson. Since then, he (La Volpe) has picked another and now he wants yet another."

The media have also criticised La Volpe's policy.

Meanwhile, Blanco seems further than ever from his third World Cup after La Volpe said that he had to work harder.
Blanco has not been picked since he declined to play at last year's Confederations Cup in Germany, saying he needed a rest. "I haven't got any sort of problem with La Volpe but if the coach doesn't want to pick me, what can I do," said Blanco. "I know I'm one of the best."
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Old 01-08-2006, 08:28 AM
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They should have asked that idiot Figo to comment on this.
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:07 AM
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Good one, Conrad. I heard his comments.

You're not a fan of Luis?
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Old 01-09-2006, 07:32 AM
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Nope. He was saying the same sort of crap about the Portuguese national team and how they shouldn't be using players like Deco.

Plus, what kind of idiot leaves Barcelona to go to Real? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-13-2006, 10:06 PM
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I love reading the posts but this one I had to join and write. Leave Figo alone hes a great player and I think he respects whats going on with the team and this is going to be his best opportunity to win the Cup this summer. GO Portugal
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Old 01-13-2006, 10:22 PM
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Portuguese have no balls in football. Neither at international lever, nor at club level. They won't get anywhere at the WC.
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Old 01-13-2006, 10:38 PM
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I hope your wrong buddy and why do you say they have no balls?
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Old 01-14-2006, 08:17 AM
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Because I've seen them play at Euro 2004. Home advantage, what more could you ask for? And still a gutless performance.

Then comes club football. Once again home advantage in the UEFA Cup final, how often does that happen? And once again, a spiritless performance...
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Old 01-14-2006, 12:29 PM
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Conrad - I don't think you've ever played against a portuguese player on a pitch, otherwise you'll never say that.
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Old 01-15-2006, 09:37 AM
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No, but I've seen them play on the pitch. Never seen a bigger bunch of wussies and losers than the Portuguese. If they built tanks, they would have 1 gear to go forward and 5 gears for reverse.
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:14 AM
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No, but I've seen them play on the pitch. Never seen a bigger bunch of wussies and losers than the Portuguese. If they built tanks, they would have 1 gear to go forward and 5 gears for reverse.
I think you've got their manufacturing department confused with the french...
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Old 01-15-2006, 11:31 AM
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Could be, but I believe that the French also have "Overdrive" when going backwards...

On a (completely) side note: honest answer, that PK against Portugal that France converted in ET, would you have given it?
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:06 PM
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Hey man Im Portuguese and those are some low blows that you like to punch. Im a big Benfica fan and I love watching them. In the Euro 2004 Greece was the better team at the time. They beat the best team in tournement which I tought was the Czechs, so they beat all the best teams and deserve to win. Portugal are not big favorites this year. There not even a favorite in there group this year in the world cup. So I dont know why you are bringing up last world cup. The Coach was crap the overall team wasnt that strong,they didnt deserve to win. Couto is a crap defender and the goalkeeper was horribble. This is a whole different side they are a young side and mixed with veterans and with a good coach. Im not going to get mad that you call them wussies and losers. Because sometime at times I agree with you. I wish they would play more tough. But if they can get pass the 2nd round watch they can do a lot of damages. Portugal you have to say that they have gotten some really bad brakes threw out international games.
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Old 01-15-2006, 07:58 PM
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Sorry dude, no offence meant.

At 2004 Greece wasn't the best team IMO (I think the recent qualifiers for the World Cup are a good indication of their true strength). The Czechs were probably the best side there but like a few other teams they lost due to a silly mistake (and probably Greece's only shot on target in the game). I'd like to see Portugal play a bit tougher as they were over cautious with Greece and didn't venture forward too much. Ronaldo is a great player and has incredible potential when moving forward with the ball. He's a carbon copy of Ryan Giggs it seems. You gotta use the team's strong points rather than sit back and see what happens.

Have to give credit to Mourinho though. The guy is top notch. I wonder if he'll be Portugal's manager one day, or maybe he's after Ericsson's post?

I do have to give credit to Portugal against Spain though. Spain only needed a draw to advance at Portugal's expense... and I had big money on Portugal to go through. You guys saved my ass there.
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Old 01-16-2006, 03:33 AM
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I know you dont mean anything by it. But if I feel theres money to be made on going against portugal. Ill make that bet in a hurry. I wont bet with my heart. But I would like to handicapp this world cup this year. And reading you guys post hopfully I can make some money. Im new in hadicapping soccer, is it tough what do you look for? The way they match up? or? I dont even now if theres money to made in soccer. Thank you
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:34 PM
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Conrad, what do you mean about Deco (whom I happen to think is among nthe best 5 players in the world)? Is he not Portuguese?

I pray **PRAY** that Blanco will be kept off the Mexican team. I said it before: he is a malcontent and a cancer to that team. Like Rooney without the talent! Also, it's worriesome that Borgetti is not getting much playing time with Bolton. Hopefully he'll land with Benfica.
Still, I think it's premature to call this an implosion.

goonga, Estermoz is my favorite town in the world. I love Portugal and its people.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:45 PM
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Deco is a naturalized Brazilian and I don't see why he shouldn't play for Portugal as a citizen of that country and as someone who has never represented any other country at international level. Unfortunately that moron Luis Figo seems to disagree, claiming that people like Deco have no right to play for the Portuguese national team...

I guess this would be the equivalent of Laurent Blanc publicly stating that people like Zidane have no right being in the French national squad.
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Old 01-18-2006, 04:26 PM
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I didn't know that. Thanks.

>>guess this would be the equivalent of Laurent Blanc publicly stating that people like Zidane have no right being in the French national squad.<<

And next WC, someone will complain about Adu playing for the U.S. (assuming he becomes half the player everyone expects him to)
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Old 01-18-2006, 09:36 PM
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Probably so that he can sign a $$$ with Nike. Guy is throwing his talent away by not moving to Chelsea or Barcelona.
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