Pokerstars - How many Bad Beats Can You Take?

[Jeff Miller]

I have been monitoring this site for a while and have found the information very helpful in my betting endeavors. I was hoping to get some help from everybody out there. I love playing poker online and there are so many fish out there but i am considering leaving pokerstars after sustaining numerous bad beats. I figure i have lost over $800 worth of pots tonight playing in $1/$2 and $2/$4 while i had a significant advantage when my money was put in. Just want to know if anybody has a sight they feel bad beats seen are at a minimum because i am just plain tired of losing pots to people going in on draws and consistantly hitting them. Any advice out there.

[Minnow]

Jeff, Welcome to MajorWager. We have some great pokerplayers here, so hopefully they can give you good advice on different sites. I have been stuck on stars lately, myself. I had a decent run at 1/2 there are few weeks ago, and then hit the wall that you are now plastered against. We all suffer badbeats, but sometimes the frequency just seems uncanny. I went back to sitngo's, and have hardly been back to cash tables since.

[Jeff Miller]

I play in a lot of Sit and Go's and $1/$2 and $2/$4 tables. I have lost 7 10-1 beats in the last two nights. That being where i had a higher pair after the flop and the other person had pockets. They then proceeded to hit a set on 4th street or the river. I mean come on 7 times? I mean you got to figure statistics would take over at somepoint.

[James Trout]

Ah you wouldn't be the first to cry foul at PS. Some have even nicknamed the thing, 'RiverStars' due to the number of times some of those who lose get beaten on the river card.

[Jeff Miller]

What limits do you play at Sit N Go's. $15+1, $25+2, or $55+5?

[Larry Tyrdowski]

I just played in a $55+5 sit n go and the short stack went all in at least six times behind and pulled it off. I ended up in the money with blinds at $600/$1200 which if you play Sit n go's is crazy. And they weren't even coinflips. It was K7 v. A7 or 4Q v. Qk. 3 outs but kept going and going. It was insane.

[Jeff Miller]

I mean how can that statistically happen?

[Minnow]

I usually play 15/1, sometimes 25/2 turbo NL, (9 player or 18) and 12/1 up to 33/3 6-player NL SNG's.

[jjgold]

Part of the game is bad beats, I do not get why people think it only happens to them. If you play all day you will get at least 10 bad beats per day

[Bostongambler]

FAKE bad beats?

[Johnny Detroit]

I used to think the same thing. But, when you factor you are seeing X more hands more per hour than at a casino or home game, you are going to see more of that happening. Considering 2/2 is a coin flip for a/k head's up and 7/7 55-45 over 10/8 off suit, how many hands are really bad beats? People being pot committed or getting good value on their money could just be calling pots that do not seem obvious to call.

Personally I have uninstalled River Stars about 132 times from my cpu, but now just understand how random poker can be and playing online is no different than anywhere else.

[XXGameXX]

LIke JD said, you are seeing more hands so you will see more beats.

It has happened to me many times where 1 day or a few days really shine against you on bad beats. Yes it is very nerve racking but you need to continue to play solid (not go on tilt) or even drop down a level or 2.
Everything will be alright if you are a solid player.

[capt]

agree guys but it seems like it happens more on the river at pokerstars than anywhere else for me

[Johnny Detroit]

I have played everywhere from River Stars to BoDog and you always see in the chat someone say "this site cheats" or "everytime i get rivered here".

Must of saw it around 10x last night playing at BoDog. Including a lucky hand I beat someone on. Playing NL and it is getting close to 3:30am so I am going to bed and figure if no crazy raises going to play my 7-4 offsuit since I am on the button anyway. Since it is 2-4 NL, one guy makes it $8.00 and I call because I am up a pretty decent amount and about to go to sleep (plus most of the table called so I have great position if a lucky flop comes). Flop comes 7-7-7. No shyt. Quads. One guy bets $10.00, few people call, including me of course. Turn comes an Ace. Two people at the table have aces. Of course you know what happens and the "only at BoDog" messages start coming. Now these two cats are obvioulsly busted out and think it was a "bad beat" because I stayed with a 7-4 off suit? Or was it having great position, tons of callers, no crazy raises and the fact it was my last hand?

[BettingProphets]

Ultimatebet has the most river bad beats of any I have played the bastards stay in on pocket 3's with 3 overcards on the flop they just shouldnt be in the hand then the river or turn give em trips

frustrating as hell

[Johnny Detroit]

i had the hand a little wrong. but "bad beat" or guy not making a decent raise with a/k getting what he deserves:

king silas Set dealer/Bring in spot 9 03:14:13
trammart Ante/Small blind $ 2.00 03:14:13
smokelet Big blind/Bring in $ 4.00 03:14:13
trammart Card dealt to a spot 03:14:13
smokelet Card dealt to a spot K A 03:14:13
LooseManiac Card dealt to a spot 03:14:13
mykelee79 Card dealt to a spot 03:14:13
seoulman Card dealt to a spot 3 A 03:14:13
Johnny Detroit Card dealt to a spot 7 4 03:14:13
PeaceFrog Card dealt to a spot 03:14:13
king silas Card dealt to a spot 03:14:13
LooseManiac Fold $ 0.00 03:14:22
mykelee79 Fold $ 0.00 03:14:23
seoulman Call $ 4.00 03:14:26
Johnny Detroit Call $ 4.00 03:14:26
PeaceFrog Fold $ 0.00 03:14:26
king silas Fold $ 0.00 03:14:29
trammart Call $ 2.00 03:14:35
smokelet Check 03:14:36
Betting round completed Last active pot = $16.00 03:14:36
Card dealt to table 7 7 7 03:14:36
trammart Check 03:14:39
smokelet Check 03:14:41
seoulman Check 03:14:43
Johnny Detroit Check 03:14:45
Betting round completed Last active pot = $16.00 03:14:45
Card dealt to table A 03:14:45
trammart Check 03:14:48
smokelet Bet $ 10.00 03:14:52
seoulman Call $ 10.00 03:14:54
Johnny Detroit Call $ 10.00 03:14:59
trammart Fold $ 0.00 03:14:59
Betting round completed Last active pot = $46.00 03:14:59
Card dealt to table 2 03:14:59
smokelet All-in $ 66.00 03:15:03
seoulman Call $ 66.00 03:15:06
Johnny Detroit All-in $ 542.50 03:15:10
seoulman All-in $ 86.98 03:15:28
Johnny Detroit Return uncalled portion of bet $ 389.52 03:15:28
Rake amount $ 1.75 03:15:30
Betting round completed Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 2 = $242.25
Side pot 6 = $173.96 03:15:30
Johnny Detroit Showdown Show card: Four of a Kind
7 7 7 7 A 03:15:30
seoulman Showdown Show card: Full House
7 7 7 A A 03:15:30
smokelet Showdown Show card: Full House
7 7 7 A A 03:15:30
Johnny Detroit Hand result $ 416.21 03:15:30

[BJKPMP]

STICK to live games i learned the hard way gettin dicked +rigged at party poker; won back all of my losses there in 2 weeks in live games. If you cant see them, anythings possible.

[Johnny Detroit]

i think online one thing is do not try and bluff as much. someone in boxers and a wife beater are more tempted to call than someone at a casino on crap hands cause they are mad at the world. not seeing the person is a huge edge you lose, but you can tag certain people by the way they bet, how long they take.

[grapefruit]

YOU ARE GOING TO GET MORE BAD BEATS WHEN YOU PLAY LOWER STAKES BECAUSE NOBODY RESPECTS BETS/RAISES AND SO YOU SEE MANY MORE PEOPLE CHASING TO THE RIVER AND HITTING RUNNER-RUNNER