Pokerstars - How many Bad Beats Can You Take?

[Colemanator]

hey Johnny Detroit, if you were playing in a ring game shouldn't your last hand be from UTG?

[THE BIG BANKROLL]

I think you are all just bad poker players.

[Johnny Detroit]

Colemanator,

I pulled it from hand history on BoDog. The 2-4 NL game around 3am or so. In the actual hand post I mentioned I had the recap in the original post a little off. Since I was going to bed, I wanted to let it go around all the way and call no matter what unless a decent raise.

[mario x]

hey there,
i play pokerstars for 2 years now, mostly rebuy tournys. i started with 3R, 5R, 10R till i won a 10R. than i switched to higher ones. from than on bad beats started, as i never seen bevore. i lost every game, when i was favourit in a showdown and i saw , that very often the same players are in the high money places. does ps maby play a cheating game? are these players real ppl, or faked from ps?

Originally Posted by Jeff Miller

I have been monitoring this site for a while and have found the information very helpful in my betting endeavors. I was hoping to get some help from everybody out there. I love playing poker online and there are so many fish out there but i am considering leaving pokerstars after sustaining numerous bad beats. I figure i have lost over $800 worth of pots tonight playing in $1/$2 and $2/$4 while i had a significant advantage when my money was put in. Just want to know if anybody has a sight they feel bad beats seen are at a minimum because i am just plain tired of losing pots to people going in on draws and consistantly hitting them. Any advice out there.

[terryba4]

So how much did you win with the 4 sevens? just curious

[Allen8R]

Originally Posted by Jeff Miller

I have been monitoring this site for a while and have found the information very helpful in my betting endeavors. I was hoping to get some help from everybody out there. I love playing poker online and there are so many fish out there but i am considering leaving pokerstars after sustaining numerous bad beats. I figure i have lost over $800 worth of pots tonight playing in $1/$2 and $2/$4 while i had a significant advantage when my money was put in. Just want to know if anybody has a sight they feel bad beats seen are at a minimum because i am just plain tired of losing pots to people going in on draws and consistantly hitting them. Any advice out there.

I've been playing online poker for about 5 months now, primarily at partypoker and everytime I read a story about a site being fishy because of lots of bad beats I laughed and saying that bad beats are a part of poker, which they really are. I incisted that all online poker sites must be legitimate and there was no card rigging or anything like that.

This changed starting last week. I decidedto give pokerstars a try and to get the 100% sign up bonus...what a bad move.

Now, I havent lost any money, over the past week I've gotten ahead, but only 150$ since i got a few wins on some 78$ tables...But at first I noticed it seemed like bad beats were the norm.

So I disimiised these thoughts at first thinking I was just having some bad luck. But I played about 4 hours a day for the past week and it has not changed. time after timeafter time after time i was getting beat by the worste hand. It was like i was cursed. Not only that but there are some strange crazy hands that happen all the time!

for example, two players all in pre flop...it's not uncommon at all for the board to hita full house, flush or straight making it a split pot...lower pockets seem to have a preference over the higher pair. if you have trips, you can almost be sure that a third club, spade or diamond will hit on the river giving someone a flush.

I was really starting to get shocked at this so I started chatting with people playing sit and goes. It's amazing how many players there agree 100%!!!.

I even notice the play is different there, than at other sites. People at pokerstars do not hesitate to go all in on an open ended draw or flush draw. A lot more so than on any other site i've played at.

Then I started googleing pokerstars and realized that I was by fa not the only legitimate player who noticed this. that's where I found this thread actually.

You're not by far alone man, despite what people will say (and what I said before joining pokerstars) there seriously is something fishy going on here.


A8R

[BROOKIE_AA]

I have received a very high number of beats on stars lately. I have been playing poker for 3 years and never had it this bad. I actually play on ladbrokes poker (uk) but because my computer had to back to HP for repair i found that my GFs mac is compatible with poker stars. I had so many beats i sent a compaint email asking for audit infomation (which they didnt send) they just told me not to take it personally........ so i gave it another go i played a couple of 18 seater SNG and 45 seater SNG and this is what happened 3 times in a row i bubbled with QQ 1st (QQ vs A5) 2nd (QQ vs 1010) 3rd (QQ vs 56!) i had healthy stack each time (well average) i couldnt believe it. I know this is part of the game but come on! can somebody please give me advice on how i should approach this (also while i was writing this my KK just got cracked by QJ all in pre flop. WHAT CAN I DO!!??

[jimike]

Originally Posted by BROOKIE_AA

I have received a very high number of beats on stars lately. I have been playing poker for 3 years and never had it this bad. I actually play on ladbrokes poker (uk) but because my computer had to back to HP for repair i found that my GFs mac is compatible with poker stars. I had so many beats i sent a compaint email asking for audit infomation (which they didnt send) they just told me not to take it personally........ so i gave it another go i played a couple of 18 seater SNG and 45 seater SNG and this is what happened 3 times in a row i bubbled with QQ 1st (QQ vs A5) 2nd (QQ vs 1010) 3rd (QQ vs 56!) i had healthy stack each time (well average) i couldnt believe it. I know this is part of the game but come on! can somebody please give me advice on how i should approach this (also while i was writing this my KK just got cracked by QJ all in pre flop. WHAT CAN I DO!!??

when i played at bodog i was victim to some unbelievable bad beats. i think all you can do is change your player name to "BODOGROBOT", OR "POKERSTARSROBOT", fill in the site you are playing at. maybe then the computer that runs the site will hook you up.

[jimike]

Originally Posted by jimike

when i played at bodog i was victim to some unbelievable bad beats. i think all you can do is change your player name to "BODOGROBOT", OR "POKERSTARSROBOT", fill in the site you are playing at. maybe then the computer that runs the site will hook you up.

also want to clarify to those out there who think folks are just bitchin about the sites because they suck at poker. i consider myself still a beginner at poker, and i consider my skill level to be pretty good, not great but good. the issue here is that things happen on those sites that i havent seen happen much in the real world with live players across the table from you. if you have trip kings on the flop, you go all in , and you find yourself losing to a guy ( or maybe its the sites robot, dont know) who had 7-5 offsuit and picked up the last two pieces of his straight on the turn and the river.

i call bodog "THE STRAIGHTMAKER" due to this. wont play there anymore, it just doesnt represent reality enough for me.

[Hartley]

The 2 sites I find are much better for bad beats (i.e. not that many) are wspx and betfair poker. That's particularly true for tournaments. I've given up on iPoker for lent. The hand that did it for me there I had 22 and bet 3x blind. Guy next to me called everyone else including blinds folded. Flop was 2-4-7 rainbow. I bet 2x pot guy goes all in, I call. He flips over J-6?? Turn is 5 river is 8 he completes the straight and I'm gone. I have no idea if its fixed but I don't need the frustration of ridiculous players hitting ridiculous hands.

I don't know if the players are better at the other sites but I rarely if ever see someone try that at befair poker.

[Fuzzyxlogikk]

hey guys have some troubling proof that the rng works against good play, this is what you must do: go to any heads up game 5 dollars i say just so you dont lose much, sit out until you have very few chips basicaly let your chips get blinded out, then sit back iin with few left and see what hands u get i swear your next 3 out of 5 hands will be amazingly good everytime PROOF

[Hartley]

Pinnacle's poker room is good too. I think its 24hr poker that runs it - a lot of people from Scandinavia on there. Hands seem to play more honestly than they do at pokerstars, fulltilt and the God awful iPoker. Actually my contention has always been that the poker rooms are all similar but the players at iPoker in tournaments are so bad that you just aren't rewarded for good play. What's the point of playing when 4 people call your pocket aces and one of them sucks out a turn-river to make a straight on garbage that they called with? And that's not an isolated occassion but happens almost every hand.

[SatinCharmer]

I can see some people not caring and drawing out on you... but when there is only one card that can beat you from the flop and this situation happens 3 times in a hour... the odds against that happening naturally are quite high...

[big behn]

i guarantee you (and most players) severely underestimate how many hands you can downswing even if you are clearly a winning player.

and i'd be real surprised if you were one of the <1% of players that can maintain focus and still play their best game while in the middle of such a downswing.

you probably need at least 25k hands to have any idea of how you rate against competition at any given level. at 70ish hands per hour (online), that's 350 or so table/hours.

its very difficult. but you must think very long term to be successful at this game.

[cutecub00]

Ultimatebet has the most river bad beats of any I have played the bastards stay in on pocket 3's with 3 overcards on the flop they just shouldnt be in the hand then the river...

[iodopg]

I play in a lot of Sit and Go's and $1/$2 and $2/$4 tables