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Old 11-20-2006, 08:22 PM
VegasBookmaker VegasBookmaker is offline
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Default I need to get this off my chest.

Let me be clear from the beginning, I am not 100% positive this went down. Meaning I don't have the proof or evidence to back it up but the gut feeling is too strong to pass up and not reveal what I know.

I have a friend who is big on betting football both pro and college. I ran into him about 2 weeks ago and our usual chit chat is about money won/money lost, good "prospects" coming up or games you just can't pass up to wager in. Thats why I found it strange that on this occasion he couldn't stop about how much money is to be made by betting on a UFC fight which took place Saturday on the 18th. More specifically he told me to bet the Hughes/St. Pierre fight and put the money on the underdog who in this case was St. Pierre. I told him that UFC or fighting in general isn't his specialty, and asked why this certain fight is a sure thing. At that point he got quiet and eventually was able to mumble to take or leave his advice before he left.

I didn't think much of it at the time but I did a little research on the fight which was to take place in Northern California. St. Pierre or GSP as he is widely known would be getting about 2 to 1 or even 3 to 1 in some casinos. I got curious and called my friend about the fight and wanted to know why he was so certain that I couldn't pass up this wager and exactly how much he has invested in this certain fight. I couldn't get much out of him but he did say that he was looking for a loan meaning he has bet it all, and for a guy who makes anywhere from 60-90k a year I was truly shocked.

At that point I had to get to the bottom of things so I surprised my friend with a visit. He answered the door but was tentative to let me in because he know why I was there. He finally did let me in because I did bring a six pack after all. It wasn't long before I got to the point and started in with the questions again. He finally gave in and told me to swear that I would never repeat to anybody the information he was about to give me. Of course I swore because at that point I desperately needed to know what was going on. After I swore to him that i would never tell anybody he got up and told me to follow him to a room that was obviously work from home station. He pointed me to the small framed pictures he had on top of a drawer and thats when my jaw dropped.

I immediately grabbed the frame with the picture in it and took a closer look, it was very clear now why my friend was betting the house on this fight. Clear as day now, because while doing research on the fight I got to see the fighters because their pictures where everywhere. Now in the picture I was holding there was matt hughes with my friend, I immediately asked him if that was Matt Hughes and he said NO that it was Matt Hughes twin brother Mark Hughes. Adding that they both went to college together and have stayed good friends throughtout the years. I didn't know what to belive at the time so I decided to go ahead and ignore the twin brother part and came to the conclusion that it was indeed matt in the picture with my friend and that Matt hughes was going to throw the fight. I asked him directly if Matt was going to be throwing the fight and he got quiet. He then told me that he had said enough and reminded that I swore to never tell anybody that he only told me because we were friends and knew I loved to win money in sporting wagers.

I left his house contemplating what to do with the information. Wondering if the information was even true, would my friend pull a prank of a lifetime on me that could cost me serious money. I got on my computer when I got home and googled for info if Matt had a twin brother. It turned out that he did with the same name my friend had said before (Mark). My friend also mentioned that he went to college with Mark Hughes so I tried to get info on that online. My friend has an A.S. Degree from Lincoln College but I couldn't find anything about where Mark went to school. In the end I decided to ignore everything. I didn't put a bet down on the fight but I did order the ppv and set my DVR to record it because I wasn't going to be able to watch it live. I finally got around to watching the fight and couldn't belive how such a heavy favorite got pummeled. I don't know much about mr. hughes and his style of fighting so I couldn't tell you if he looked like he wasn't fighting the way he usually fights.

This wouldn't be the first time a fighter takes a dive but it is surprising that something like this could exist in 2006. I checked news sites everywhere Sunday and earlier today and didn't see any kind of investigation or questions if Matt Hughes had thrown the fight so I am just leaving this information here. Again I have zero proof that any of what went down indeed did go down, which is why I won't be answering questions or further commentating on this subject. I Just had to like the title says get this off my chest.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:42 PM
Praesto Praesto is offline
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Default I need to get this off my chest.

You know what-- about 6 months ago I was playing poker down in california with a bunch of those ultimate fighting championship guys. There was 6 of em, and that "donna" girl from that 70's show, and her boyfriend/fiancee. Needless to say, the easiest money I have ever made. But, those fighter guys were so fukking stupid, one guy though he made the around-the-world straight on me-- I flipped over the nut-flush, he shows AK234, and thinks he "straight" beats me first of all, then the dealer (sheepishly) explains to him that a flush beats a straight, and AK234 is not a straight. "But they are in a row" he says.


That man was Tito ortiz, with his posse
“Do you wish to rise? Begin by descending. You plan a tower that will pierce the clouds? Lay first the foundation of humility.”
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:31 PM
beenscrewed beenscrewed is offline
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Default I need to get this off my chest.

i dont think hughes fight was a dive, though i wish it was cause i lost a boatload. There was a nother fight where a guy took a dive and fell down,but it was no where near where a punch was thrown. Got a good laugh out of that, even in slow motion he just fell down, was totally concious then waited for other guy to jump on top and pound. With i could remember their names
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Old 12-02-2006, 06:29 PM
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Default I need to get this off my chest.

pounder: drew mcfredries
poundee: alessio sakara

none of the fights at UFC 66 were works. Alessio ran out of gas and/or heart and Hughes simply got mauled by GSP.

there have only been a few works in the UFC and neither of those 2 fights were anywhere close to being works.
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