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Old 05-12-2003, 06:33 AM
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Default Oddessa - Spadafora vs Dorin

You have any thoughts on this fight? What kind of adjustment would you make if the fight was in Vegas instead of Pittsburgh?

I'm thinking the fight goes the full 12, with a small play on Dorin.

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Old 05-12-2003, 06:45 AM
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Old 05-12-2003, 01:19 PM
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Its a PK in Vegas IMO. I never was a Spad fan, so I am hoping he gets his head knocked off. Hoping that Dorin gets a fair shake in Pitt. It would suk to have another draw or lopsided bad decision.
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Old 05-12-2003, 02:59 PM
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Saw you had a lower draw price than everybody else. I thought about the draw and saw Pinnacle had a great price on it last night.
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Old 05-13-2003, 04:55 AM
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I absolutely HATE Spadafora but there is no $$$ to be made on this fight on Dorin. Spaddy and Dorin have sparred before and Spaddy had his way with Dorin. If you look at the style matchup, Spaddy should be able to use his reach and defense to outbox the shorter Dorin. Dorin's ONLY chance is that he can KO Spaddy late by pressuring him all 12 rounds and catching him late. Spaddy DOES struggle to make 135 so it's possible that Dorin could wear him down but the problem is that he's not a good puncher either. Spaddy will win the dec.
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Old 05-13-2003, 08:14 AM
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Val,
Thanks for the input.

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Old 05-14-2003, 06:23 PM
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How's it goin OD, and the rest of the guys here? Hope all is well.

Looks like we're all in agreement on Paulie "the Gnat".

I'll drop by later with a copy of a Ring Sports column I did on him, one that got me some hate mail from, you guessed it - Pittsburgh.....
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Old 05-18-2003, 04:44 AM
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Oddessa - C'mon let's hear what you have to say. Spadafora thinks he won this fight. Anywhere but Pittsburgh he lost this fight.
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Old 05-18-2003, 04:59 AM
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I was completely wrong about this fight. Spaddy wasn;t able to box Dorin as Dorin took the fight to him and made him fight. Dorin should have gotten the win.
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Old 05-18-2003, 05:07 AM
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Val
It was a pretty good fight though.
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Old 05-18-2003, 05:37 AM
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Oh yeah, it was an excellent fight. I really enjoyed it BUT I really felt Dorin got Jobbed, he landed a lot more power punches than Spadafora.
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Old 06-04-2003, 07:31 PM
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To - alm,
from Boxing Insider

You spoke up. You stepped up. You have been found lacking.

By Sonny Palermo


Saturday night, in Pittsburgh (where else?), Paulie Spadafora got a gift from the judges (gee, who'd have figured?) and came away with a draw in his lightweight unification bout with Leonard Dorin.
There will be talk of how he stood in there, bravely, and traded punches with Dorin.
Some will probably proclaim, incorrectly, that he actually won the bout.
And regardless of personal scoring and outcome some will say this fight brings him the respect he "deserves", for the effort he put out in it.
Bullshit, plain and simple.

Once again Spadafora held all the advantages. He had height and reach. He had speed and youth.
He had professional experience and a huge home court advantage. And once again he has shown it is not enough.
He was bullied and he was beaten. He fought in retreat for most of the night.

Amazingly, for a bout of this magnitude, his legs were jelly by round four, and for much of the remainder of the bout he struggled to maintain his balance and find his foundation for punching. I might accept the reasoning being that he had to struggle to make weight, and was drained from that effort, except for the fact that he made weight easily, and in proper advance of the bout.

Over trained? Under trained? Either way it is inexcusable.Or maybe he just hasn't got the goods?

There is no maybe about it. Spadafora has reached the highest rung on the ladder that he is capable of reaching. Just shy of the brightest star.

A great fighter? No.
A good boxer? Yes.

But judged in a different era we probably would have never, if barely, heard of him. Spadafora was swatted around the ring. By a guy who has only 7 knockouts in 22 fights. Dorin was the aggressor throughout the fight. Dorin set the pace throughout the fight. He landed close to 100 more punches than Spadafora did.
Not THREW, but LANDED.
And he landed the harder punches, the more telling blows.
And he was robbed.

Before the fight I told a colleague "Dorin has no chance of winning a decision tonight."
I thought, "Hell, Dorin will need to KO Spadafora just to get a draw!" I was this close to being correct.

Before you allow the press and hype machine to pull the wool over your eyes by touting Spadafora's performance remember whom he was fighting.
Remember he was supposed to win.
Remember he had all the advantages.
Remember he was a betting line 3-1 favorite in the bout.
Remember he was supposed to be the tried and true champ, the better man.
And then think again. And remember he got beat.

Dorin was the dog here, the opponent. He was supposed to be little more than a stepping stone to Spadafora's big payday with Floyd Mayweather. Instead, he was the monkey wrench in the works. The wake-up call to team Spadafora's big league paydays and fantasies.

Yes, this was an entertaining bout to watch. And I mean to take nothing away from Dorin. He is a battler. He gives 100%, and deserves every penny of his purse. But his physical attributes, power, and pro pedigree are severely lacking, while Spadafora was posed as the cream of the crop. He himself has told us so.

He is nothing of the kind. This was supposed to be his big test.
It was. He failed.

He wants Mayweather next? I wish. My entire bank account will ride on that one. Barring that fight happening he will move up in weight, where he has stated he would like to meet Arturo Gatti or Mickey Ward.
Keep dreaming Paulie, as long as you can, for you are in for a rude awakening.

Next up - a preview of Gatti-Ward III AND NFL Future wagering recommendations for season wins...



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Old 06-04-2003, 10:48 PM
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Bring on that Gatti-Ward III analysis Sonny. I am 0-4 w/ the last 2 mtchups btwn these two. Lost sides and totals. Can I possibly go 0-6? LOL. I would bet my left arm against a cool million that I could get at least 1 out of 6 on any normal matchup, but gatti is my achilles heel. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

They call me lefty..............
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Old 06-05-2003, 06:59 AM
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Sonny
Really liked the article. Looking forward to the Ward/Gatti preview.

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