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Old 05-09-2003, 02:29 AM
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Went to the K-1 at the Mirage and had a great time. Some comments on the fighters... (I am NO pro here, just a layperson's view)

Carter Williams - He wins the tourney and if he develops some more skill he will be unstoppable. His legs have the same girth as Oddessa's body, truly huge.

Fujimoto - The other big-legged guy, he seemed "loose" in his inside game, would like to see better defense and less of a "flaying" punch style.

Dewey Cooper - Could not beat my Mom with his leg kicks. Someone has to teach him to kick to the inside leg to throw opponent off balance so he can follow through with some straight punches. Overrated in my opinion.

Roufus - Wow, are this guys skills just so incredibly textbook or what? He was outweighed by his opponents by an average of around 40 pounds and still made it to the final. I would love to train under this guy after I learn more about the sport.

Mo Smith - Seems over the hill, no big deal. Looked flabby.

Mark Hunt - Huge leg kicks early but ran out of steam, sort of reminded me of a "Cabbage" type of fighter.

In the San Shou bout Cung Lee won by ko and he looked real good. However, Scott Sheely was very impressive although he got ko'd. He got in some good shots and I thought if he took his time and was more cautious he would have lasted longer.



Some comments on the Muay Thai training I am going through: I am just there to get into shape and to improve on my fighting skills. I have learned that condition is everything. Then mind control. Then technique. Then strength. Then guts. I am having problems when in the upper clinch. I don't think I have the strength yet (have been lifting so that will come) and when I make this comment to my Master he says that technique is everything. I disagree a "little" but he does have me sparring/practicing with guys that are much taller than me and I am 6 feet tall.

Also, concentration is so important. When sparring with someone and the Master says "go easy, work your skill for 3 rounds then spar a little harder the fourth and fifth" it always seems I get the guy that just wants to either try to beat the shit out of me or run the whole time and I learn nothing. I think I may be the only one in the school who really wants to get my ass kicked just so I can learn some new technique. For example, the Master instructed me to go for the guys neck ONLY, get a clinch, and give him side knees and front knees. The other guy was instructed to keep me off with body jabs and hooks but eventually let me in so that he could learn to punch and defend and throw me off of him while I have his neck. Well the other guy (who is real strong and has good technique with other areas of MThai) tries to keep me off of him the whole time with head and body jabs and we just got nothing done in 2 rounds. I got to his neck but he was SO ferocious in defending himself that he never got to learn how to defend in the clinch and I never got to practice my knees while clinching him. Then during the third round I decided to do whatever I had to do to phuk him up and get in there and he just ran from me. The teacher saw my crazy effort (there are other kids to attend to) and asked why I was trying to speed it up, just slow it down so that you can learn. This happens 2 out of 3 days that we train.

Also, there is SOOO much to learn that I can't see how someone could start training and become a fighter within a year, that would be too early I think unless they did it twice a day for the entire year. What a challenge the whole thing is but I am learning.

I think that some kind of grappling or ground technique would be a good complement to my training and my question to anyone here is - Do you think that is a good idea? Should I do the two at the same time (different times of day) Also, when should I do my weight training? Currently I am doing 4 days a week late in the afternoon after my morning Mthai workout.
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Old 05-09-2003, 05:17 AM
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you're 6'0 and what weight? dont have time to read the whole post but subs are on the out in MMA in the heavier weights. and GnP is easy if you're a wrestler. I would do a lot of standup and takedown defense. guys like Liddell, Rampage or even Cabbage are what you want to look at. have the best wrestler you know try to take you down 100 times a day. get to the point where he can't take you down. I'm a lanky 6'2 and the best wrestler I know has to work hard to get me off the feet. and become a punishing striker (muay thai, etc) on the feet.

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Old 05-09-2003, 06:21 PM
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You are doing all the right things Max. Looks like you are now a pretty heavy favorite over me. The Muy Thai and ur conditioning are bringing in all the sharpes.


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NO Total b/c I can't last 5 minutes and we can't put up a Total of : 1/2 round U -220

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Old 05-09-2003, 07:56 PM
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Come on buddy, you are so much stronger than me and more experienced, don't phuckin patronize me, you would be -3000 and that's no joke. I need to get you after a night at the Del Rey to get close to being an even money prop and that's if I have a bat with me!

surfin, thanks for the advice. I weigh about 205 right now and not that tight, I have a long way to go.
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Old 05-09-2003, 08:01 PM
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I'd parlay Joey B and the over. Then you guys could work (cough cough) it out.

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