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Old 09-11-2009, 07:02 PM
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Politicians are often the "rooks and queens" of the chessboard. Often as naive as the rest of us, they can me manipulated and actually have the power to be used for often horrible acts to satisfy the wishes of some perverse and extremely rich and powerful people.
ayep, and we have a fair idea who they are ...

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Old 09-11-2009, 07:06 PM
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There was a national Geographic tv channel special on the truther's theories/claims a couple weeks ago, people may want to check it ou, they re-air programming a lot. I had to turn it off halfway through because the truthers were so annoying and retarded...
I saw it, seemed a little slanted against the truther's IMO.
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:17 PM
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Can't believe that 8 years on we still don't have new (and taller) towers built. The single best way to say FU to Bin Laden would have been to spare no effort or expense to immediately rebuild the Twin Towers better than ever. That, and catch the mf'er. Be nice if we could do that too. Grrr.
Why build another tower?? Who would lease footage there? Another target? As for building it higher to say FU to Bin L, you can build it as high as you want but Bin L will still have score board on the US regarding this issue.
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:14 PM
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i live in ny and wasnt a poster here at the time but reading alot of the things in this thread showed me alot about the people and the character of the people here which i can be glad to say im a poster here because yes its sports and gambling 99% of the time its great to know that in a time of need all of us care about the well being of each other and each others families. now i didnt watch the sheen video but i must say i saw a video that my sister told me abou any of you here can google it it was called loose change and i must say it definetly makes u think twice about if this was a government conspiracy i will say it made me think twice. and it also really bothered my sister because she worked in the wtc but she was off on 9-11 just want to say god bless everyone who lost a friend family member or life in these terrible attacks
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:25 PM
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I saw it, seemed a little slanted against the truther's IMO.
The truth is slanted against the truthers.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:41 PM
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The truth is slanted against the truthers.
I would love someone to explain to me in a convincing manner how building 7 fell. Like Kennedy's magic bullet I guess.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:52 PM
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The truth is slanted against the truthers.
Which truth would that be?

And whose version of it?

There's at least 50 different versions of the "truth".

The people who think they know the absolute truth about this are as crazy as the people who think they know that it was some grand government inside job.

Fact is, no one is ever going to know with absolute certainty what went on on that horrible day.

If someone wants to draw conclusions after exhaustive research and examining all the possibilities, that's terrific. Anyone who would accept a version simply on popularity, or the version given by the government, the press, a truther web site, or anywhere else is an irresponsible opinion in my book. Have a little courage, and look deep for answers, even if you don't come up with any, it's the pursuit that's important.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:12 PM
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I would love someone to explain to me in a convincing manner how building 7 fell. Like Kennedy's magic bullet I guess.
DGen, my bro worked at JPMorgan on Wall St, and on 911 he was told in the early a/m to go to the other office up past Times Square. on the train riding in he saw the 1st plane hit. if he'd been on the Wall train he'd of been in the station under the north tower.

i asked him about the other buildings and how they fell and his best answer he could give me was "consider the mass of 2 very huge buildings hitting the ground, and what the resulting shock waves would do".

i have no doubt they weakened the structures around the plaza, and those buildings eventually fell.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:54 PM
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watching Superbowl XXXVI (Feb 2000) on NFL Tv, the Pats & Rams, and during halftime show was U2 doing great songs then they put the banner in motion going up to the ceiling listing the names of the 911 dead. i swear i almost cried ... it aint been that long afterall.

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Old 09-11-2009, 11:20 PM
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Maybe at this years SB they can list all the innocent people killed by the US in iraq and afghanistan during the past 7 years. Don't know for sure but I'm willing to bet it many more than went down on 9/11. Just a little hypocritical that the two are never compared in the same light.
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:23 PM
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Tragic on both side of this issue but we seem to think our loses are more unjust than what others have suffered at our hands.
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:25 PM
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im sure they are compared in the same light....just not by americans.
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Old 09-12-2009, 12:52 AM
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im sure they are compared in the same light....just not by americans.
some Americans Robin. i know more Arabs than you & Vig put together, even speak some Arabic, and helped an Afghani get political asylum.

i care, and know how to put things in perspective, but that still doesn't preclude me from mourning our dead.
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:19 AM
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WE NEED TO ALL PRAY FOR PEACE!
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:20 AM
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..........WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE OR NOT ---- I DON'T KNOW ---BUT I KEEP PRAYING !!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:34 AM
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I would love someone to explain to me in a convincing manner how building 7 fell. Like Kennedy's magic bullet I guess.
What I would like to see explained why all the buildings pancaked instead of falling to the side. Doesntt the structure would have to be weakened precisely in the right places for that to happen
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:19 AM
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What I would like to see explained why all the buildings pancaked instead of falling to the side. Doesntt the structure would have to be weakened precisely in the right places for that to happen
rewatch the collapsing of tower 1 & tower 2, Pete. initially each tower toppled to the side where the structure had weakened, and then the remainder of the building pancaked because of the resulting weight from the tops hitting them on the way down.

i watched it very carefully today when MSNBC did a special of the actual 911 broadcasts in real time (8yrs later). they played it over-an-over back then and we saw it again today. the tops fell to the side, and the 2nd tower that collapsed you could see it buckled right where the jetliner went into the building.

what i want to know is why is there still a hole in Manhatten 8yr later? we don't have to have massive towers shooting up to the stars, but c'mon you fuckin' gubment losers, at least fill & pave the fuckin' hole. plant some trees and put up a plaque with some park benches, anything but this fuckin' hole in the ground for crissakes ...
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:02 PM
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On 9/11/2001 radical Islamic extremists bent on world domination, with a history of hijacking planes since 1972 hijacked some more planes. Only this time they used them as bombs and rammed them into US government and financial centers with the goal of killing as many innocent Americans as they could. The ultimate goal of these nutjobs is to force America to submit to [their extremist version of] Islam.

But they are not the only nutjobs. There are nutjobs right here, living in America who think agents of the US government thought it would be a grand idea to murder their own innocent civilians. Some of those delusional dimwits have a home right here at Major Wager. And 8 years later they've decided to soil this thread which was started right after the attacks took place by spewing their garbage.
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:08 PM
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On 9/11/2001 radical Islamic extremists bent on world domination, with a history of hijacking planes since 1972 hijacked some more planes. Only this time they used them as bombs and rammed them into US government and financial centers with the goal of killing as many innocent Americans as they could. The ultimate goal of these nutjobs is to force America to submit to [their extremist version of] Islam.

But they are not the only nutjobs. There are nutjobs right here, living in America who think agents of the US government thought it would be a grand idea to murder their own innocent civilians. Some of those delusional dimwits have a home right here at Major Wager. And 8 years later they've decided to soil this thread which was started right after the attacks took place by spewing their garbage.


good point...the us government would never murder innocent citizens.
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