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Old 12-21-2001, 09:32 PM
Hartley Hartley is offline
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Ali's Wild Punch Lines

By Lloyd Grove
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 19, 2001; Page C03


We've always admired Muhammad Ali, so we couldn't believe our ears Monday night when the 59-year-old former heavyweight champion of the world told a couple of off-color jokes at the Washington premiere party for "Ali," the biopic starring Will Smith as the champ and Ron Silver as trainer Angelo Dundee.

As Ali took the microphone at Georgetown's Cafe Milano -- with Mayor Tony Williams standing behind him -- Ali's fourth wife, Lonnie, was overheard pleading: "No, no, no, don't." But before a packed crowd that included Silver, Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe, former Republican Party chairman Frank Fahrenkopf and plutocrat-philanthropists Jim Kimsey and Joe Robert -- Ali let 'er rip.

"What's the difference between a Jew and a canoe?" the legendary boxer asked, his voice slightly muffled from the effects of Parkinson's disease. "A canoe tips!"


Muhammad Ali: Comes out swinging with some startling jokes at benefit. (Mike Theiler - AFP)

The crowd, which included more than a few Jewish folks, including Silver, reacted with laughter -- some of it uncomfortable.

"A black, a Puerto Rican and a Mexican are in a car. Who's driving?" Ali persisted. "The police!"

More laughter, including from African Americans and Hispanic Americans in the audience.

Yesterday we were still reeling from the champ's one-two punch. Wondering if Mayor Williams was similarly dazed, we checked in with Hizzoner'scommunications director, Tony Bullock, who told us: "I think I can speak for the mayor when I say: 'Yikes!' "

But Sue Carls, communications director for the Muhammad Ali Center in Louisville, explained: "These are not new jokes. Muhammad tells them all the time, because he likes to make people laugh, and he shocks people to make a point. He always manages to defuse any situation that seems overly reverential. Following the film, everybody was paying tribute to him and he was in a good mood."

Carls -- who took issue with our description of Ali's jokes as "off-color," preferring instead the term "politically incorrect" -- noted that the champ is trying to build an $80 million facility for people-inspiration, conflict resolution and, yes, multicultural appreciation (for which the Cafe Milano event was a fundraiser).

In the meantime, Champ, we love you, but: Get some better material. And listen to your wife.
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Old 12-21-2001, 09:40 PM
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Leave the poor guy alone.

The jokes are old, but funny.

People are so stuck up these days and worried about being politically correct, which is absurd, considering North American society is as amoral as its ever been.

The same PC nazis who get all upset about these types of things are the bozos championing every anti-family, anti-religion, or pro-government cause that ruining our way of life.
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Old 12-21-2001, 09:44 PM
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They don't bother me either and I'm Jewish. I just heard about this on the radio today and thought it would be interesting to bring up for discussion.
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Old 12-21-2001, 10:11 PM
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If everyone got mad at me for telling jokes.....I would be down to animal jokes.......

I think I include all ethnic groups and all minorites in my repetoire.....even Italians.....

People take things much too serious.....
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Old 12-21-2001, 10:41 PM
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I agree the jokes are no big deal, but if a famous white male told those same jokes, the media and the minorities would raise hell.

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I love those type of jokes. I've been collecting jokes for years. Prior to the Internet taking over the world, I had planned to write a book that I was going to name "The Dirty, Racist, Sexist Joke Book."

Most good jokes are either dirty, racist, or sexist. Big friggin' deal. People need to relax and not takes jokes so seriously. Though I'm Jewish, I love jokes that make fun of steretypical Jewish traits.
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Old 12-22-2001, 01:11 AM
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I agree with PMJ. Look what happened to John Rocker after he made some dumb racist comments. There is definitely a double standard out there - i.e. if a white person says something politically incorrect then there is hell to pay but if a minority does it then it isn't a big deal.
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Old 12-22-2001, 01:13 AM
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Ali is just a funny guy, with old jokes I guess. He made Howard Cosell seem funnier than he was.
As far as old jokes, Jack Benny and the Burns fellow too, (can't think of his first name), used to use many old jokes. They were classics and still funny. We're all a little too sensitive when it comes to race (if that is the politically correct term). The spirit of how something is said is much more important than the actual words. As far as generosity is concerned, (just my opinion here) the Jewish People are definately some of the most generous of all and some of the tighest of all!
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Old 12-22-2001, 01:30 AM
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Here's a good Jewish joke for you.

A Jewish woman comes home to her mother's place one day and announces she is going to divorce her husband.

The mother is horrified.
"You're divorcing Hershel, why? He's handsome, he's rich, he's Jewish!!! For what possible reason are you going to divorce him?"

"Well to be honest mother," the woman says, "Hershel is always demanding anal sex. He won't even consider normal sex anymore - it has to be in my ass. When I first married him my ass hole was the size of a dime, but now it's the size of a quarter."

The mother looks at her daughter in shock and then screams
"So for 15 cents you're going to cause trouble???"
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Old 12-22-2001, 01:39 AM
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sooooooooooooooooo..I guess that was just Ali bein Ali,,,kind of like Charles bein Charles,,,well then where were all you apologists when Issel was just bein Issel.....
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Old 12-22-2001, 01:44 AM
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Harley--That was a riot!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like something I used to hear in the Big Apple!!
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Old 12-22-2001, 02:53 AM
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A priest gets a haircut, but the barber refuses payment, saying, "I can't accept this from you. You provide a wonderful service to the community." The next day the barber arrives for work to a stack of a dozen bibles in front of his shop.
A cop comes in. Again the barber refuses payment, because the cop "provides a great community service". The next day the barber arrives to a dozen donuts at his doorstep.
A rabbi comes in. The barber again refuses payment because the rabbi "provides a wonderful service to the community."............The next day, a dozen rabbis show up for free haircuts.

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Old 12-22-2001, 02:59 AM
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Thank for the laugh Hartley....

I like how the writer threw in his 4th wife.....
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Old 12-22-2001, 03:56 AM
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You ever notice how eveyone loves Ali and says he was the greatest in and out of the ring. But, the way I see it, he was the original showboat & trash talker. So how can someone praise Ali & criticize Randy Moss at the same time. There's no difference between the two.
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Old 12-22-2001, 05:36 AM
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Rumble young man rumble.......
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Old 12-22-2001, 06:33 AM
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One difference between Ali and Moss is that if you can do it, it ain't bragging. Ali has earned the right to talk trash because he accomplished a wee bit more in his field than Moss has in his.
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Old 12-22-2001, 11:50 AM
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Ali was heavyweight champion for many years. How many championships has Moss won?
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Old 12-22-2001, 12:09 PM
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Reno, here are two short jokes to add to your book...

What's the best thing about the Million Man March? Not a single person had to take time off from work!

What's the Cuban national anthem? Row, row, row your boat...

How many men does it take to open a beer? None. It should be opened by the time she brings it.

Why do women have smaller feet than men? So they can stand closer to the kitchen sink.
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Old 12-22-2001, 08:07 PM
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Akmed came to the United States from Afghanistan, and he was only here a few months when he became very ill. He went to doctor after doctor, but none of them could help him. Finally, he went to an Arab doctor. The doctor said, "Take dees bucket, go into de odder room, shit in de bucket, piss on de shit, and den put your head down over de bucket and breathe in de fumes for ten minutes."
Akmed took the bucket, went into the other room, shit in the bucket, pissed on the shit, bent over and breathed in the fumes for ten minutes. Coming back to the doctor he said, "It worked. I feel terrific! What was it?"
The doctor said, "You were homesick."
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