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Old 07-01-2005, 08:46 PM
STLantny STLantny is offline
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Im looking into expanding my repetoire as a "pro gambler" from poker player to sports bettor, there is obviously more money in poker (being as its so much easier, from what I can tell), but the super long mind numbing grind gets boring, with sportsbetting, I assume Ill be usinng my brain more, and get to be a little more creative. Two questions: is there anyone willing to exchange information? Ill teach you how to win at poker (faster than a book can I guess, because I have read them all, and can tell you the best info from each, without the fluff), and you teach me how to win at sportsbetting. Second question: I have read the tutorials, and Sharp sports betting-Wong, but there is no "real info" there imo, its all bankroll, tempermant management etc. Basically, no nuts and bolts on where to get info, how to analyze it etc. Anyone care to give me some tips?
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Old 07-01-2005, 08:56 PM
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Sounds like you need a programmer/partner...
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:00 PM
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I have read the tutorials, and Sharp sports betting-Wong, but there is no "real info" there imo, its all bankroll, tempermant management etc.
WHA???

Wong's chapter on Poisson props alone can give you a LIFETIME career as a sports bettor. Sounds like you need to do some more reading. If I missed that, I'd be re-examining my analytical skills too.




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Old 07-01-2005, 09:03 PM
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( I havent read all of wongs book, I glanced through it, and am on the 2nd of 3rd chapter of in depth reading)
But as I go through the book, and take notes, besides "poison props" what other topics should I be looking at in depth?
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:23 PM
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STL - why don't you tell us more about your background. I think that most of the serious players on this board are leery of anyone who claims to be a professional gambler of any kind (BJ, poker, sports, etx).

You say you're a winning poker player - how many hours do you have under your belt? Do you keep records of all your sessions? Do you have a decent BR that is completely untouched by other expenses? And finally, why sports? There's a ton of easier ways to make money out there both in casinos and out - why sports?
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:28 PM
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STL, here it is in a nutshell. Ease into it and don't bet much at first. Do your research, and try different ideas. There is no "how to" book for sportsbetting. Lastly, if you find something that works over the long-term, keep it to yourself. If you don't, the edge disappears! GL, Sylf
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:39 PM
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Background
Im in college still. I pay rent/bills/car/health ins etc. I became a "pro" about a year ago, I have a seperate roll, that I dont touch, other than taking an "estimated hourly wage" out at the end of each week that I keep track of in excel, I put my rakeback into an interest bearing account that I dip into sometimes. I have a pokertracker database, that has, I think, around 6-700,000 hands that Ive played (plus about 200,000 hands that I lost after an HD crash). I have 8 months of working 20-50 hours a week, playing 4 tables of various games, as my roll dictated, starting with 3/6 limit, and up. I want to get into sports, basically because in High school, I was a "bookie", I knew nothing about online wagering at the time, etc, got my lines out of the newspaper. I did it haphazardly, and didnt make as much as I could of, but it was a decent chunk for a high school kid with 20 high school age customers, I also enjoyed doing it. So I figure why not actually learn things right, and be on the other end. Since I still have about a year left till I get my BS, I cant/dont want to get a 9 to 5 because theres no way Ill find a job, that can support the lifestyle I live like poker is doing. Eventually, I will pack it all up, move out to vegas, and find myself a career (not gambling related, in IT something similar).
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:45 PM
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Better off in law enforcement....
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:48 PM
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I dont get it.
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:51 PM
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Youre better off just making book. You already have an edge built-in, why would you want to give that up?

Keep your book business going and play poker during off hours - you can make an entire career off that. There's really NO point for you to play on the other side of the table.
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Old 07-01-2005, 09:59 PM
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Bookmaking is illegal though, hehe. Ive thought about that, keeping my shop open, but all the high school guys are gone and in college, and I really wouldnt know where to get customers. Id be curious as to how law enforcement treats bookmaking now a days, they are lax on everything here, except drugs anyways. I dont want this to start into a "how to be a bookie thread", but Id like to hear thoughts and opinions, on the best way to open one up, is it worth it, and how do it right (I guess you guys - the customers- would be the best ones to ask). Meanwhile, Ill look up info on laws, and any busts made here. If this kind of thing is looked down upon here let me know, and Ill edit this post, I just dont know many smart gamblers that I could ask in person. Thanks
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:05 PM
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Mr. Tom Landry if you keep given out the newspaper line then I will be a customer.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:18 PM
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No one can "make" you a professional sports bettor, just like no one made you a pro poker player.

It's a journey you have to make on your own, and requires hard work, and even that is no guarantee of success. Good luck.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:22 PM
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Aye, I wholeheartedly agree with that, its just that there is so much BAD info that I dont know where to start. I bought sharp sports betting, superbookie, and another book off of amazon. Sharp sports betting = good, superbookie taught me a little, but was very entertaining. The third book, which I threw away, started off the first chapter, As with any gambling game such as poker, blackjack, roulette, sportsbetting can not be beaten, its like flipping a coin you either win or you lose....
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:25 PM
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You really arent leaving yourself much time till you venture off into new things.

Everyone has to start somewhere but it takes awhile.

Good luck.
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:32 PM
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Well, obviously, if I have a huge talent, and am making gobs and gobs of money, my plan can change. Im as flexible as water through a silly straw.
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Old 07-02-2005, 03:09 AM
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You just gotta pay your dues. I've found that winning at sports betting is mostly figuring out what NOT to do.

And keep solid notes. Very important.
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Old 07-02-2005, 03:59 AM
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I cannot believe anyone is taking this guy seriously.

Believe me, this guy has NEVER been a bookmaker of any sort.
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Old 07-02-2005, 04:00 AM
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Hence, sporto's reference to 'law enforcement' and him...sticking to "IT".
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