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Old 04-30-2005, 01:32 AM
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Default does anyone have a link on that story about the OU baseball coach

i just caught a tid bit of that story on sportscenter tonight about the racest OU coach. and, i was wanting to read the whole story on it. so, if you have a link to this story can you please post it.

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Old 04-30-2005, 03:17 AM
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i would like to thank pmj18 for the info on this via a PM.

thank you sir.
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:24 AM
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His comments weren't meant to be anything but a compliment but they did some out bad. Chris Rock uses almost the exact same stuff in his comedy routine. Stupid thing for a white guy to say though.
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:28 AM
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jake, your right it's a double edge sword. but, in this day and age you just can't make comments like that on or off the camera.
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:31 AM
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What were his comments?
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:32 AM
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he used the "n' word in comments made in front of reporters.
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:01 AM
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BBD, You're very Welcome. I sent several pm's to BBD after watching all the local News at 10:00 PM CST. I told him what the Local news was reporting, but I will wait for LC or Clevfan to post the Article from the press.

The OU Manager Cochell, has been temp. replaced by Asst. Coach Galloway, who both were the Manager at Oral Roberts Univ. in the past, Cochell hired Galloway as an asst Coach, a year or two ago, before some other College hired Galloway, who is a great young Coach, to replace him at OU, when Cochell retires. (Which looks to be soon).

Cochell, used the N word, talking to a ESPN reporter, before the OU- Neb. game Fri. night. He was actually trying to defend one of his players, saying he was not a N______, but it didn't come out as the Manager intended.
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Old 04-30-2005, 10:07 AM
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NORMAN ó Oklahoma baseball coach Larry Cochell was indefinitely suspended from the bench Friday for racially insensitive remarks made in two off-camera interviews with ESPNís Gary Thorne and Kyle Peterson before Tuesday nightís OU-Wichita State game

According to ESPN, the Sooners coach told Thorne, ďThereís no n***** in him,Ē in reference to freshman Joe Dunigan, an African-American.

In a separate discussion about Dunigan with Peterson, Cochell reportedly said, ďThere are honkies and white people and there are n****** and black people. Dunigan is a good black kid.Ē

Oklahoma officials were made aware of the comments at 4 p.m. Friday. ESPN subsequently aired a report on Cochellís remarks.

Cochell, who is in his 39th year of college coaching, did not return phone calls. A reporter was also turned away at his home.

Cochell, who has been at OU for 15 years, issued a statement.

ďI profoundly apologize for my remarks,Ē the statement said. ďI am deeply sorry for any pain or embarrassment I have caused for any individual or the university. Our university family is totally committed to equality and mutual respect. I personally hold those values and will always regret that my careless use of language did not reflect my own values, and it certainly did not reflect the values of the University of Oklahoma.Ē

Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione declined to comment on the situation. He, too, issued a statement:

"It is widely known that one of the most important values of the University of Oklahoma and its leadership is to celebrate diversity as a strength. This university is a place where everyone is respected. Clearly, if these comments were made, they run contrary to the core values of this institution, and we will treat them very seriously."

Assistant coach Sunny Golloway has been named the interim head coach and will remain in that role until the matter is resolved, OU officials said. As of Friday night, Cochell remained the OU coach.

The Sooners, who had taken the field in preparation for their 6 p.m. game against Nebraska, were pulled off the field 20 minutes before the game to meet with Cochell. At that time, the players were told of the ESPN report. Nebraska won the game 8-1 and evened the series at 1-1.

Leaving Mitchell Park late Friday night, OU player Chuckie Caufield, one of two African-Americans on the team, declined comment but said that he was unaware of the report or what Cochell had said.

"It was a tough situation," Golloway said. "The whole thing is a surprise."

Golloway declined to comment on what Cochell told the team in the pregame meeting. Senior Matt Bose also elected not to elaborate.

Dunigan declined to talk to the media. Security personnel escorted the players to their vehicles after the game.

Both Golloway and Bose said they had never heard Cochell use any racist comments.

"That's a simple no," Golloway said.

Larry McVay, the high school baseball coach at Blanchard, has been in the business for 25 years. Many of those years included time working with Cochell. McVay was stunned at the comments.

"Larry Cochell might be guilty of a lot of things, but it is hard for me to believe that he has it in him to do what they said," McVay said. "I don't believe it. I would have to see it for myself."

Thorne said he was taken aback when Cochell used the slurs Tuesday night.

"I was dumbfounded," Thorne said.

The reason ESPN's report didn't air until Friday was a delay in communication between Thorne and Peterson, said Josh Krulewitz, ESPN's director of media relations. The comments were made in separate conversations with Thorne and Peterson. As a result, it wasn't until later that Thorne and Peterson each realized what Cochell had told them, Krulewitz said.

Cochell is known for going off the record with media. That was not the case in this instance, Krulewitz said.

"It was clearly understood that the conversations were on the record," Krulewitz said.

One of the on-air talent reportedly had his scorecard with him and was writing as he was talking with Cochell.

"Because it was done in the course of doing our jobs, we felt like we had an obligation to let the people we were working with know," Thorne said. "It didn't seem like the sort of thing you can condone.

"Yesterday, we made the decision (to go with the story). Maybe each of us would have gone separately, but it wasn't isolated. We had to do something."

The comments come in the middle of what has been an up-and-down year for the OU baseball program. Cochell and former assistant coach Ray Hayward were embroiled in some controversy about how the pitching staff was run at the end of last year. Although the Sooners finished second in the Big 12, Hayward eventually resigned.

An early exit from the NCAA Tournament fueled earlier rumors Golloway was poised to take over the team.

This season, the Sooners have been average throughout Big 12 play. At 7-10, the Sooners are in seventh place in the conference. Cochell, who coached the Sooners to the 1994 NCAA title, has had losing Big 12 records in three of the last six seasons.

Cochell is the sixth most-successful active coach in Division I-A and eighth all time. Cochell, who has a career record of 1,330-813-3, is one of only six active coaches and one of nine coaches in NCAA history with more than 1,300 career wins.

Cochell has been a longtime member of Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:03 PM
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Guy did nothing wrong but tell the truth
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Old 04-30-2005, 01:17 PM
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Guy did nothing wrong but tell the truth


that may be JJ but, you can't make this types of comments nowadays. this isn't the 50's anymore ya know.
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Old 04-30-2005, 01:25 PM
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Unpardonable sin leaves no choice but to fire Cochell

By Berry Tramel
The Oklahoman

NORMAN ó Larry Cochell has coached his last baseball game at the University of Oklahoma. There can be no other verdict after the startling revelation Friday that Cochell committed an unpardonable sin.


Cochell used the N-word.

Few crimes in sport can be more damning. Few crimes in society can be more damning.

You canít say it. Itís a word thatís different from all others. It goes beyond the profane.

Itís a word that packs horrific clout. A word that rises up against 140 years of Americaís painfully slow race-relations progress.

You canít say it on the job, at least not a self-respecting job. You canít say it on a ballfield. You for sure canít say it on a college campus.

And thatís not political correctness. Thatís common decency. Itís not a word that sparks dialogue. Itís a word that sparks an inferno.

Yes, we as a society have become too sensitive to many a thing. This is not one of them.

Even if your reputation is solid and your resumeí pristine. Even if youíve given 40 exemplary years to the profession of leading youngmen. Especially if youíve given 40 exemplary years to the profession of leading young men.

This was not a hotheaded young coach. This was a man who should know better.

What was Cochell thinking? Who knows? But he apparently was thinking it twice.

ESPN broadcasters Gary Thorne and Kyle Peterson say Cochell tossed out the word in separate conversations with each.

Do not blame ESPN or its broadcasters. Maybe Cochell said off the record to both. But some things need to come to light.

Hereís a question, OU fans. Do you wish Cochellís crime had remained quiet, or are you glad you know?

You should want to know. So should OU president David Boren and athletic director Joe Castiglione. Itís bad enough to say it in private, under your breath. But to say it to national broadcasters who will carry word of your program from coast to coast?

Racism is not something to be hidden.

Yes, racism. Saying that word is a racist act. Most of us are racist to small degree. Thankfully, few of us are racist to this degree.

OU has no choice but to fire Cochell.

As far as I know, as far most of us know, Cochell is a solid individual. Not perfect, not angelic, but solid.

Itís a sad way for such a career to end.

But end it must. And Cochell knows it.

Born during World War II, Cochell is of an older generation. Raised in a time when the word carried no such penalty.

But funny thing about sports. It keeps you young. Spend all those spring afternoons around 20-year-olds, and you keep up with the trends. You learn that what was acceptable 50 years ago is no longer so.

Cochell knows that. At least we hope he knows it.
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What a friggin' joke. Everybody who is perfectly objective knows that there are black people who are "niggers" and black people who are not "niggers." Likewise, there are Mexicans who are "fukking Mexican Idots" and Mexicans who are not "fukking Mexican idiots." Furthermore, there are Jews who are cheap bastards (guys and gals who have big noses because the air is free) and Jews who are generous and operate their own charities--like yours truly.

Sure, the truth hurts, but it's better than the fukking lies that Political Correctness perpetuates.
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:08 PM
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"Man I really appreciate that coach....that's a very nice complement. I mean, I'm humbled beyond belief. Can you analyze the rest of my family to see if they are niggers too?" "Don't wannabe associated with any of those you know"
Jimbob- "Hey coach, since you are the on the board of directors for the National Organization on Sterotypes, can u give me a run down on my family? Cause I'm thinking of changing my name...THey don't live in a trailer park , but I've got a gut feeling they are honkeys and white trash"

Average drop in IQ for every thread read ≈ **12.2**

**using a 9 thread exponential rolling average**
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Old 04-30-2005, 03:36 PM
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I can't believe some of the opinions here.

Castiglione (who is the best AD in the country) should fire Cochell immediately. Its not so much that this guy believes this stuff its that he is dumb enough to utter his stupid thoughts to a national media outlet. Extremely embarassing to Oklahoma- a class institution- to have this cracker in charge of one of their athletic teams. Unbelievable.

Its too bad that the coach of a decent college baseball program will now and forever be remembered as a racist ass backward country fxck.

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Old 04-30-2005, 03:44 PM
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THIS COACH SHOULD BE AN AMERICAN HERO NOW

HE HAD BALLS TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:35 AM
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Top, for Bobby C.
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Old 05-02-2005, 03:44 AM
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Thanks, pmj. But I'm sorry I read it. The story is sad, and most of the replies are sadder.
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