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Old 11-12-2004, 07:08 PM
Michael_DiSanto Michael_DiSanto is offline
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Default Struggle for Supremacy (Boxing)

Who do you guys like?

Byrd vs. McCline (IBF HW Title)

Ruiz vs. Golota (WBA HW Title)

Rahman vs. Meehan (WBA Eliminator)

Holyfield vs. Donald (Old Man Eliminator)

McCall vs. Williamson
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Old 11-12-2004, 07:10 PM
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I think Dolph Lundgren could whoop all their asses...
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Old 11-12-2004, 08:45 PM
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Byrd, Golota,Hasim,Donald and Williamson.......

I am actually going to buy this card.... I am a DOPE
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Old 11-12-2004, 08:46 PM
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I think its one of the poorest cards in a while
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Old 11-12-2004, 08:49 PM
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I am a Dope.
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Old 11-12-2004, 08:50 PM
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McCline (the convicted gun runner)
Ruiz
Rahman (quitting if he loses)
Holyfield
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Old 11-12-2004, 08:51 PM
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Quiet Man looks like he has been drinking too many Bud Lights with Norman Stone....

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Old 11-12-2004, 08:53 PM
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I'm going head to head with Oddessa again.....I LOVE Golota in this one.
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Old 11-12-2004, 08:54 PM
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If only he still had the mental capacity to spell "Real Deal"

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Old 11-12-2004, 09:00 PM
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Great mechanical body..... Just wish the SLOW-PLODDER button wasn't jammed.
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Old 11-12-2004, 09:24 PM
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Rahman -2.85 OVER Meehan (2.5 UNITS risking 7.125 units)

Rahman showed at the weigh in- (232) -in great shape. He fought in the 230's
from 1994-2001. He catches an easy fight against Australian, Kali Meehan.
Meehan's record is a farce, he beat some guy named Colin Wilson 5 times.
His claim to fame is losing a controversial split dec to Lamon Brewster. Meehan has
fought no one, (except Danny Williams who KO'd him in 1st round) and is being fed to
32 year-old Rahman, who now has a legitimate shot to win a Heavyweight Title.
Meehan's statements about "wanting to look good" tells me even he knows he
can't win here. Don King has found the perfect patsy to catapult Rahman's ranking
by making him look very good on Saturday night.

Byrd - Mc Cline : Price looks about right. Lean to Mc Cline +1.80

Ruiz - Golota: Price moving up now, gets to +1.40 Taking Golota

Mc Call - Williamson: Williamson

Holyfield - Donald: Pass
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Old 11-12-2004, 10:01 PM
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Mikey D,

You're the professional here. Who do you like?
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Old 11-13-2004, 04:46 PM
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Unlike most, I think this is an extremely interesting card simply because it is so tough to handicap - much more so than last week's card or next week's fight. There are a lot of "If....then..." with this card. My thoughts...

Ruiz-Golota - We all hate Ruiz because of his style, but most people ignore his effectiveness. Golota has the edge in size, strength, punching power, speed and skills. Ruiz has the edge in effectiveness of style, mental toughness and elite experience - Tua, Rahman, Holyfield 3x, Jones, Rahman, Oquendo. If Golota gets off first, he wins. If not, he loses because Ruiz will score and hold, not leaving any room for counters. Golota is the best bet for an upset, but far from a lock.

Byrd-McCline - This fight drives me nuts. If Jameel fought like a 6'6, 270-lb monster (the guy who came back to KO Cedric Boswell late), he'd knock Byrd out. But he very rarely fights "big." When they sparred together back in March for 4rds, it was fairly even with Byrd slightly edging the big fella out. In the center of the ring, it's no contest. On the ropes, McCline has a shot. He's got to go to the body almost exclusively early to slow Byrd down. But he's not a body puncher. The only thing that keeps me from saying Byrd is a lock is the way he fought in his last two fights. He's starting to stand still much more, and that's bad. If Jameel imposes his will on Byrd, he wins because he's too long, too tall and too big. If not, he gets completely outclassed. I like Byrd.

Rahman-Meehan - At 232 lbs, Rahman beats most heavyweights in the world. He will beat Meehan.

Holyfield-Donald - Donald is the perfect opponent - not hard to find, not much power, a blown up 41-3 record for credibility, and he's also getting old. Holyfield's forgotten more about boxing that Donald knows. Remember, Evander's losses are all to world class fighters. Donald can't beat Holyfield, but Father Time might do it for him.
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Old 11-13-2004, 04:51 PM
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Rahman
Rahman/Meehan Under
Donald/Holy Under
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Old 11-13-2004, 05:02 PM
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If Golota doesn't get tired and pissed off.....he wins this easily.....but he is a strange dude.
I think he is the best heavyweight out there today.
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Old 11-13-2004, 05:09 PM
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An in-shape Rahman is up there, too.

Forget the low blows against Bowe. Those weren't 'pissed off fouls'. They were desperation ones. I'm not sure he knew he was winning because Bowe hits HARD. Golota was hurt and desperate. Against Tyson, Golota was just plain old scared. After he got hit on the button, he said, "Screw this."

Ruiz doesn't hit like Bowe. He's not as intimidating as Tyson. The only way he beats Golota is if he frustrates him with his style forcing Golota into a passive fight - ala Ruiz-Rahman. I had Oquendo beating Ruiz until he got caught. This fight should be a replay of Oquendo-Ruiz if Golota can keep his head and move.
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Old 11-13-2004, 05:11 PM
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Also, referees and judges reward Ruiz for his style. It is going to be a tough fight regardless.
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