How can an NFL Ref see something different then the rest of the world???

[shoebox]

Its amazing week after week, with the benefit of replay, an NFL REF CAN STILL GET THE CALL WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everybody makes mistakes and during the heat of the moment calls are screwed up but after watchiing it in slow motion from 4 different angles its immpossible to miss. These refs should be fired on the spot if they screw up a replay. The 49ers got screwed tonight, not once but twice. One of the calls had to actually be reversed which includes indisputable evidence to overturn, I saw it 5 times and so did the rest of the world, THERE IS NO EXPLAINATION!!!!

[TTinCO]

Too old & too incompetant....nothing new, but still pathetic.

[JoeyrollNy]

time to bring in some new refs so we can atleast say they are making rookie mistakes.

[Rookies]

The standard Rookies answer...

NFL Standards for Officials

Of course, there isn't any ! These old, fat, blind, septuagenarians simply can't cut it in a high speed game.

For the past decade, this is my solution.

> 1) Hire fulltime officials @ $100k per annum.
> 2) EVERY new hire must be a recent Phyzz Ed Grad in great shape and preferably played NCAA Divsion 1 Football.
> 3) Serious Knowledge AND conditioning testing before hiring.
> 4) Serious weekly/ Yearly evaluations of performance. Failures are FIRED !
> 5) Digital Cameras everywhere, including the sidelines and goal line.
> 6) Paid spotters to watch the cameras EVERY instant.
>
> This would be a good start to having quality officiating in a billion dollar game. A crew like X ( the NFL F-up of the week ! ) would never make it to the next weekend, if I was in charge.

[if you only knew]

Originally posted by: Rookies
The standard Rookies answer...

NFL Standards for Officials

Of course, there isn't any ! These old, fat, blind, septuagenarians simply can't cut it in a high speed game.

For the past decade, this is my solution.

> 1) Hire fulltime officials @ $100k per annum.
> 2) EVERY new hire must be a recent Phyzz Ed Grad in great shape and preferably played NCAA Divsion 1 Football.
> 3) Serious Knowledge AND conditioning testing before hiring.
> 4) Serious weekly/ Yearly evaluations of performance. Failures are FIRED !
> 5) Digital Cameras everywhere, including the sidelines and goal line.
> 6) Paid spotters to watch the cameras EVERY instant.
>
> This would be a good start to having quality officiating in a billion dollar game. A crew like X ( the NFL F-up of the week ! ) would never make it to the next weekend, if I was in charge.

who is it a billion dollar game to? the bettors? because if so, the nfl doesnt care about the bettors enough to change anything...at least not publicly[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[Cobramoon]

the first call-- I thought it was likely the 49ers guy trapped it, but it was not clear enough from any angle to overturn the call on the field

On the interception-- WTF did I miss there? His knee was down!

[count zero]

The SF receiver touched the Chicago DB as they were going down. At that moment, the DB had not yet taken full possession of the ball. Then he caught the ball and his knee touched, but he hadn't been touched since he caught the ball, so his knee touching didn't mean anything. I think the refs got that one right. I thought the first call was poor, even though the ball probably did hit the ground, since there was clearly no indisputable evidence.

[shoebox]

Count, I realize he was never touched while he was on the ground but ask yourself this, How many times in a game will u see a defender hit a guy so he is off-balance and stumble forward for say 5-10 yrds before finally going down???? HE IS RULED DOWN BY CONTACT EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody has to touch him WHILE he is on the ground, thats the old "Down by Contact" Rule. It applies every time I see a guy go down when being knocked off-balance, every time but last night.

[OMAR]

The worst call I've EVER seen was in the first qtr of the Jags-Texans game.

4th and short. David Carr takes the snap and tries to stick the ball out across the line for the first down. He gets drilled by a linebacker and the ball pops out. Jax ball.

The refs rule his forward progress was stopped. No one had even touched him until the hit. He wasn't surrounded on all sides by a group of would be tacklers either.

What happened was that Carr's behavior was like it was a goal line play. He stuck the ball out as if to "cross the plane" , then he just stood there until he was drilled. I doubt a single person out of the millions watching thought the Texans were going to get the ball back.

I have a feeling I'm glad I went to bed.

[Rookies]

who is it a billion dollar game to? the bettors?

" If... " I was being kind and very, very conservative. Just start adding up the $ the NFL makes and the value of the teams: Mega Billions !

Forget about us- this is the GM of sports and a bunch of old, blind fat Fs make up the rules every week ! It's a continuous joke.

[shoebox]

Omar, I bet Houston in that game or I would have started a thread on that call, it was brutal. I was happy they f#cked that call up[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[HOUSTON GAMBLER]

Don't blame the refs,blame the cheap-ass NFL. They play the players too much and want to use part time refs. As I said in another thread thats like putting used tires on a Farreri.

[jackass]

Originally posted by: count zero
The SF receiver touched the Chicago DB as they were going down. At that moment, the DB had not yet taken full possession of the ball. Then he caught the ball and his knee touched, but he hadn't been touched since he caught the ball, so his knee touching didn't mean anything. I think the refs got that one right. I thought the first call was poor, even though the ball probably did hit the ground, since there was clearly no indisputable evidence.

I agree with both takes. What ticks me off is that most refs wouldn't have even thought about checking to see if the db had possession.