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Old 12-10-2017, 09:25 PM
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Like Anal said we saw he put his his hand back. The jury got to see all evidence and we get bits and pieces. Sucks but that's how it is.

Just kinda sad to see a drunken guy trying to comply but couldn't and he died.
Even if he was drawing a gun, he had no chance with an AR-47 pointed at him. You can wait a split second longer until you actually see the weapon. If he got one shot off, it would be a miracle. Then add to those odds that one shot hits a cop.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:49 PM
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Oh I agree. I would of loved to have been in that jury room. All I know is what I saw and it was rediculous. He has full body armour and an auto vs a guy in clothes that I don’t think could of supported a gun. This guy one of the bad ones.

I just want to know how this jury came to this verdict.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:58 PM
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My son went through POST training. He was on his way to being a police officer.

I will say this with 100% certainty. If the cop holding the gun was my son. That victim would still be alive.

Some people care about human life. Some do not.
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Old 12-10-2017, 10:11 PM
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+1. The whole thing was executed like a Police Academy parody. Any threat would be someone else coming from the room and they were blind to that as they played Simon says. reminds me of the black guy shot in a traffic stop. Not as clear a video but close to the same thing.
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Old 12-10-2017, 10:48 PM
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I will say this with 100% certainty. If the cop holding the gun was my son. That victim would still be alive.
Horrible punctuation.
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Old 12-10-2017, 10:54 PM
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I think the whole Simon says nails it. I knew the guy was going to get shot when I watched first time. So they have two suspects on floor so I say to myself someone comes out of door for sure. Then time goes by and as soon as he told that guy to crawl I said oh no to myself. No care about the door after asking woman if anyone else was in there. Just a shit load of shouting at a guy who couldn’t tell right from left he was so scared and buzzed.

This guy died because he wasn’t capable of playing this cops game ofSimon says. It was so obvious he was incapable.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:31 PM
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Just a speeding ticket and just my luck.............

Just want to share another AZ police story that worked out better. I'll make no excuses for bad cops which I believe the above story contained one.

Here is how they acted today when they pulled me over. I have a Mustang GTO 2006 and not a scratch. I want this sucker with original paint job not a scratch at 30 years. It's my baby. It needs a good blowing out on freeway though at least once a week so wife takes it.

That's why I am in her Rav today. I place my hands on wheel and a cop walks up and I can tell he is appreciative of placing hands in full view. He says you can put you hands down and smiles. Do you know the speed limit? I say 45. He says 40. He asks do you know how fast you were going? Why lie? I said I looked down when i saw you and was was at 55-60? He says 61 that's criminal. I say to myself FUCK. Insurance etc this isn't good. He says don't worry I'm gonna let ya go to school. Big relief. Asks for my paperwork. I'm not in my own car. Takes me awhile to get right insurance card (like 2 expired ones in there with current) and fumble for registration etc. I explain this is wife's car not mine (my names on it with her) I apologize and say when you look at my record you'll see I don't have any tickets in AZ except for one. So after what occurs next makes me think the officer asked himself why doesn't this guy know where his shit is.

I know I have not done anything wrong so I'm not worried when 5 min ticks by. Then another cop car shows up. I expect the cop to check in with buddy and drive off. He parks instead. Then another cop car shows up. Then another! At this point I'm like WTF man? 4 cars and I ain't even looking to see how many cops. Stare straight ahead. I have not done anything wrong I say to myself be respectful.

A female officer comes up to side window. I hardly drive this car and I roll down the back window (LMAO) then get it right and she smiles and says something has happened they have not seen before and stay calm we are working on it. I reply I know I have not done anything wrong except for speeding so no problem. I just am praying they don't ask me to get out of car. Asks me where I'm going etc I reply pharmacy and back home. Where do you live etc all the while ha has my info. I'm still calm though. I just don't want to get out of car. Things feel edgy.

She says the officer is going to come explain now and I can feel the stand down type thing going on. Two cops say sorry this was normal response for this type of thing. WHAT TYPE OF THING I say to myself.

Original officer comes to window smiling and say's he should take me to jail for all this trouble I caused. Still clueless but relieved. He proceeds to tell me my plate doesn't match the car I'm driving. Asks me if I ever owned a KIA. I say no and we have had this plate and # for 2 years. He says I thought so because when I ran the # it's only one off. You have to contact DMV. Here is what your plate says and its a digit off. Here is the right # call the DMV.

He apologized for having to call back up but it's procedure he has to follow. Normally wrong plate means stolen car and better chance of being armed etc. They had to take my plate he said.

Said no problem and thanked him for not giving me a criminal charge on the ticket and get the fuk out.

Hour process and a ticket. Plus a trip to DMV. Fun!

Can't drive car without a plate.. Sure it will take 2 weeks to get a new one. Means wife has my car for 2 weeks...grrrrr
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:43 PM
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Wow. So the butt puckered up a little bit.

I imagine you were thinking back to the above story, and all of those thoughts racing through your head.

So how exactly did your plate get messed up. Does that mean when someone issued you the plate, they recorded the wrong number?

If I had to guess, the DMV that originally issued the plate, probably has a stack of them in sequential order.

QSD 021 Bob's Car, recorded as Bob's.
QSD 022 Issued to Joe. But accidentally recorded the next one for Joe.
QSD 023 Recorded for Joe. Issued to Dick.
QSD 024 Recorded for Dick, Issued to Stevo.

Something like that. I wonder if there are dozens of plates out there now, that are "1 off".
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:54 PM
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If you were black, would be entirely different. At the very least, asked to step out of the car and they search your person and the car.
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Make that mobile.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:00 PM
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When I was at Michigan State, had a gay roommate from Boston. He slept on the top bunk and always snored. Told somebody I should shoot that sob next time he snores. Gay roommate found out and called the police on me! Cop came and searched my dorm room for a gun.

Then months or years later, same cop stops me for speeding or whatever on campus. He says I look familiar but can't remember. I remembered but didn't say anything.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:09 PM
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Wow. So the butt puckered up a little bit.

I imagine you were thinking back to the above story, and all of those thoughts racing through your head.

So how exactly did your plate get messed up. Does that mean when someone issued you the plate, they recorded the wrong number?

If I had to guess, the DMV that originally issued the plate, probably has a stack of them in sequential order.


QSD 021 Bob's Car, recorded as Bob's.
QSD 022 Issued to Joe. But accidentally recorded the next one for Joe.
QSD 023 Recorded for Joe. Issued to Dick.
QSD 024 Recorded for Dick, Issued to Stevo.

Something like that. I wonder if there are dozens of plates out there now, that are "1 off".


Bingo on all three. Butt puckered at 3rd and 4th car. And yes I thought about above video that's why I did'n't want to get out of car and ordered around. I thought about what you said. If they ask me to get out of car just get out and lay down and freeze. LOL
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:15 PM
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If you were black, would be entirely different. At the very least, asked to step out of the car and they search your person and the car.
Funny Cwissy. It was a black officer who pulled me over. In California I got pulled over by a black officer and got the reverse racism. I wouldn't be baited though. This guy really was really cool. That I got an apology from the two that left was shocking. That's because I'm white I'm guessing.
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Another roommate I had was some asshole from the Dominican Republican. Automatically assigned freshman year. I can't remember how it got to his point but he made an iconic quote about me. From bad memory. Last part I'm sure.

"I have been in the United States many years and encountered many people. I can say this suredly that you are the worst American I have ever met."

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Old 12-29-2017, 01:19 PM
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Not a good thing to say to a roommate. I would of offered to cook him a nice dinner as a peace offering.

Then plan on not being able to use the bathroom for night. OCCUPIED.
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