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Old 05-11-2010, 01:05 AM
Perpetual Czech Perpetual Czech is offline
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Default Fezzik's Complete LVA Posted Picks Record

LVA Sports has a policy of resisting documentation of the picks that they provide to their subscribers. Their admin consistently maintains they are not a "picks site" even though Fezzik himself refers to LVA as a "55% picks site". Despite their policy, Fezzik took the time to post documentation of a recent run where he happened to do well over a few weeks and complained that people call him out when he runs bad and stay silent when he does well.

Accordingly, I am posting documentation of the entire history of every pick Fezzik has released since the inception of the board. All picks up to December 21st are recorded here (complied and posted by Dreamer):

Final update and results

The totals were: 288.24 units risked, lose 30.77 units.

Starting Dec 22nd I have then done the same exercise up until yesterday. Those results came out to 348.95 units risked, lose 10.56 units.

That brings the entire record of Fezzik picks since inception of the board to a total of: 637.19 units risked, -41.33 units, -6.5% ROI

I tried to paste my documentation of each pick but the format doesn't come out right. Complete documentation of all bets is posted over at EOG. If anyone knows how to paste in an Excel sheet here to format right please let me know.
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:19 AM
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This thread was originally posted in the Mess Hall.

If anyone can tell me what majorwager policy I violated by posting this I would appreciate it. Similar threads are in place at four other sites with no problems.
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:54 AM
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Good stuff PC. Don't know why it would be moved.
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Old 05-11-2010, 03:10 AM
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Seems like Mess Hall material to me. Thanks, PC, for taking the time to do it.
I'm not anti-Fezzik, btw. He's welcome to come here and argue with the record, or otherwise defend it.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:54 AM
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That was probably some hard work P.C.
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:57 AM
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He's welcome to come here and argue with the record, or otherwise defend it.
i wouldn't bet on it.

he has already deleted the post from his own site.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:08 PM
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The easiest way to silence critics is to prove them wrong.

It seems that Fezzik has had many opportunities to pick this accounting of his picks apart, yet hasn't done so.

That alone speaks volumes.
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Old 05-11-2010, 04:11 PM
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He seems like a bright enough guy but I hate the way he spreads his pick sets around so that he always has something to seem to be smiling about.
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:40 PM
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I ended up going through Alf's picks as well since he joined and his record came out to:

Risk 165.32, lose 5.86, -3.5% ROI

So together with Fezzik's 638.39, -42.53 record, that brings the entire LVA record of all picks since the site started to:

Risk 803.7 units, lose 48.4 units, ROI -6.0%

Again, I can't paste Excel into my posts here without making it look like gibberish. EOG seems like the only forum where it pastes well so anyone wishing to see a list of the picks can do so there. Also, you may download an Excel file of the picks at RTP. We will also be keeping track of the record going forward at RTP.
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:43 PM
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Fezzik seems like the type of guy who masturbates in front of a mirror. JMHO.
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Old 05-18-2010, 04:42 PM
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I went back through the record Dreamer compiled and found out he only included certain types of CFB and NFL bets and excluded others. To be consistent with standards I used for picks since Dec 22nd I redid the record myself going back to the inception of the LVA site. The up-to-the-minute results are:

Fezzik
381 graded plays, risk 694.75, lose 29.28, ROI -4.2%

LVA Sports (Fezzik and all other hosts)
520 graded plays, risk 864.7, lose 31.1 units, ROI -3.6%

Anyone who would like a copy of the file you can download it at RTP or PM me here with an email address and I'll send it to you.
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:03 PM
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I'm all for information disclosure, but posts like this come w/ a holier-than-thou inference. No secret that it's hard to clear a profit in sports-betting. These guys who offer a svc don't have to feel guilty about it. All the responsibility is on the buyer. Once you send the $, transaction's completed.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:04 PM
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All the responsibility is on the buyer.
Sure but isn't it better if the buyer has as much relevant information as possible about what he's buying? There's more to the story here than is apparent. Last fall Fezzik started lobbing bombs at another site berating it as a "45% site" while at the same time boasting about his own "55% site" at LVA. He openly welcomed anyone to tally up the record of his picks. Now that it's clear he lost there's not a peep out of him. I think that's info someone should know before they hand money over to him for his services.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:36 PM
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Fezzik seems like the type of guy who masturbates in front of a mirror. JMHO.
And then probably licks his hand.
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:53 PM
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I'm all for information disclosure, but posts like this come w/ a holier-than-thou inference. No secret that it's hard to clear a profit in sports-betting. These guys who offer a svc don't have to feel guilty about it. All the responsibility is on the buyer. Once you send the $, transaction's completed.
They should sure as hell feel guilty if they're advertising that they win long-term...(obviously pretending that any tout could feel guilty about, well, anything...)
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Old 05-18-2010, 07:05 PM
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"obviously pretending that any tout could feel guilty about, well, anything"

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Old 05-18-2010, 08:16 PM
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He's never done anything except win the Hilton football contest the last two years.
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:32 PM
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He's never done anything except win the Hilton football contest the last two years.
You either failed miserably to discredit Fezzdick or sissessfully praised him.
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:20 PM
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How can a guy be improperly documented on his own site? Seems like he's arguing about his record all the time.
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