BETCRIS 5DIMES ACTION ON SPORTS BETPHOENIX.COM BODOG BOOKMAKER.COM HOLLYWOOD SPORTSBOOK INTERTOPS RACEBOOK SPORTSBETTING.COM WSEX
ONLINE SPORTSBOOKS Banner -<a rel='nofollow' target='_blank' href='http://www.majorwager.com/adserver/adclick.php?bannerid=92&amp;zoneid=1&amp;source=&amp;dest=http%3A%2F%2Fsports.bodog.com%2Fwelcome%2F1404439%2F&amp;ismap='>Online Sports Betting</a>at Bodog Sportsbook

Go Back   MajorWager Forums > MW - Online Sportsbooks > Mess Hall
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Mess Hall Online Sportsbook Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-19-2008, 06:02 AM
clevfan clevfan is offline
Staff
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 30,498
Default Gambler’s Book Shop - Where gamblers go for guidance

Where gamblers go for guidance

By Jeff Haney
LAS VEGAS SUN
Fri, Dec 19, 2008

To paraphrase Jacques Martin Barzun, whoever wants to know the heart and mind of the Las Vegas gambler had better learn to visit the Gambler’s Book Shop.

As the proprietor of the venerable, independently operated store near downtown Las Vegas, Howard Schwartz has unique insight into the ever-evolving mind-set of the betting public, especially those gamblers with a bookish bent.

Not surprisingly in these turbulent times, it’s a mixed-up, muddled-up, shook-up mind-set of late.

Bettors are down on the NBA, fed up with players they perceive to be overpaid prima donnas: “More than ever before, people are upset with the petulance of the professionals, the fact they get themselves in trouble so often,” Schwartz said. “They’re tired of hearing about all of this bad behavior.”

Sports gamblers are also turned off by the scrutiny — and sometimes the outright rejection — of their would-be wagers by the city’s more paranoid sports book operators: “They get the feeling some casino owners would rather not have a sports book in there at all,” Schwartz said.

Yet enthusiasm for college basketball betting continues to run high, Schwartz said, as reflected in the popularity of the 28th annual Blue Ribbon Basketball Yearbook (384 pages, $22); Marc Lawrence’s Playbook (320 pages, $34.95); and the statistics-oriented College Basketball Prospectus by Ken Pomeroy and John Gasaway (323 pages, $21.95).

And those basketball bettors who remain interested in the NBA, at least the nonprofessional gamblers, are always hungry for “angles” like those found in the NBA Power System Workbook published by Pro Info Sports (32 pages, $17.95).

“Of course bodies change in the NBA, coaches change, philosophies change,” Schwartz said. “People won’t hear of it. They say, ‘I want those angles.’ I think they make basketball betting more fun, more enjoyable.”

Schwartz, whose casually tossed-off references are nothing if not eclectic, pointed out one scholarly interpretation of the saga of Sodom and Gomorrah states the cities’ demise came about not so much because of sin and debauchery but because their inhabitants were inhospitable to visitors.

There’s a lesson in there for Las Vegas, Schwartz said before introducing “Superior Casino Guest Service” (65 pages, $77.95) by UNLV graduate Jonathan Helmbold. The book is geared toward corporate training and orientation programs.

“The industry needs more good books like that,” Schwartz said. “If they alienate one big high roller today, they could be losing their main stream of income for a while.”

Demand also exists for a decent book on how to bet on professional golf tournaments and auto racing, Schwartz said. Although some gamblers know how to make a profit in those areas, they’re probably loath to share their secrets considering the betting markets in golf and motor sports are tiny compared with football, basketball or baseball.

The overall trend during the economic downturn, however, has been away from how-to gambling manuals and toward historical and biographical works. The latest is “Confessions of a Crossroad Gambler” (180 pages, $14.95) by Jack Newton, who advised Benny Binion, describes his specialty as “cheating other cheats,” and gave his book’s chapters irresistible titles such as “Ceiling Peek, 1962 Wichita Falls” and “The Mexican With the Deformed Hand.”

A living piece of Las Vegas history itself, the Gambler’s Book Shop is anticipating a move to a new location in 2009, the store’s 45th year. Schwartz is examining “eight or nine” potential spots in shopping centers and, perhaps surprisingly, hotels.

I was reminded of a catalog of casino-related merchandise I received from Harrah’s a couple of years ago. One of the items was a well-regarded book on how to beat blackjack. Soon before then, I had been kicked out of several casinos owned by Harrah’s precisely for using the strategies espoused in the blackjack book Harrah’s was selling to its customers.

The word “irony” is often misused. For example, I don’t think a black fly in your chardonnay really qualifies. But I could make a strong argument it did apply in this case.

Schwartz acknowledged the apparent conflict.

“A casino owner is going to say, ‘Are we going to allow a bookstore in here that teaches people how to win or slow their losses down?’ ” Schwartz said. “But the other side of it is we bring traffic in, we have 40,000 established customers, and it would be good publicity. We could be a PR arm of the hotel in a sense. So we’ll see.”

The move will surely be good for business, if not for the store’s distinctive character. Previous visits had found Schwartz taking care of an injured bird or kitten. This time, upon the conclusion of an interview he went out back to check on the status of a paper plate of dry cat food, set out for a neighborhood stray.

It was a scene unlikely to be reprised in a generic suburban shopping center, and one well nigh impossible in a casino resort.

Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-19-2008, 08:04 AM
Mr Falcone Mr Falcone is online now
Three Star General
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: City of Angels
Posts: 10,153
Default

Quote:
Where gamblers go for guidance
Should change this to "Where Gamblers go Broke"

Most JOES really dont know how to manage the info.
__________________
The house doesn't beat the player. It just gives him the opportunity to beat himself. ~Nick Dandalos
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-19-2008, 09:00 AM
Pancho Sanza Pancho Sanza is offline
Three Star General
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 10,931
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Falcone View Post
Should change this to "Where Gamblers go Broke"

Most JOES really dont know how to manage the info.
sharp post
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-19-2008, 05:11 PM
ChuckyTheGoat ChuckyTheGoat is offline
Three Star General
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,785
Default

That's true, Falc.

I'll admit that I do visit this place every time I visit Vegas. Lots of information. And 90% of the books are crap. I have found useful info there, however.
__________________
"Dan Marino? What did he play...kickball?"
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-19-2008, 05:12 PM
ChuckyTheGoat ChuckyTheGoat is offline
Three Star General
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,785
Default

Demand also exists for a decent book on how to bet on professional golf tournaments and auto racing, Schwartz said. Although some gamblers know how to make a profit in those areas, they’re probably loath to share their secrets considering the betting markets in golf and motor sports are tiny compared with football, basketball or baseball.

These are very solid comments. My thoughts echo this. If somebody has good stuff...why publish it in a book?
__________________
"Dan Marino? What did he play...kickball?"
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-19-2008, 05:34 PM
Rogthedodger Rogthedodger is offline
Editor-in-Chief, MajorWager.com
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 6,900
Default

Gamblers pay touts---and a few of those touts can hit 55%. And the gamblers STILL lose money being given the outright winners. I don't think these books will hurt the bottom line, LMFAO.
__________________
Editor-in-Chief
MajorWager.com
editor@majorwager.com
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-19-2008, 05:36 PM
ChuckyTheGoat ChuckyTheGoat is offline
Three Star General
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,785
Default

No doubt.

Also, Howard is a really cool guy. He's carved out a very nice niche mkt that no one can match.
__________________
"Dan Marino? What did he play...kickball?"
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 12-20-2008, 03:59 AM
dinque dinque is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 3,906
Default

i like howard....always very friendly and a big wrestling fan
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-20-2008, 08:34 AM
Mr Falcone Mr Falcone is online now
Three Star General
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: City of Angels
Posts: 10,153
Default

I wouldnt mind reading some of these, if aynone has some they wanna unload send me a PM please
__________________
The house doesn't beat the player. It just gives him the opportunity to beat himself. ~Nick Dandalos
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Jeff Haney talks shop with a former offshore sports book pioneer on the Internet.... clevfan Mess Hall 0 10-22-2007 12:16 PM
Gambler's Book Shop, where football bettors are loading up on information as the season nears clevfan Mess Hall 0 08-18-2007 08:26 AM
How hard is it for a U.S. gambler to move to Costa Rica and get a job at a book? luke m. Mess Hall 35 04-11-2007 09:07 PM
Columnist Jeff Haney: Talking shop with a Las Vegas sports book manager who says the NFL underdogs will draw the early b clevfan Mess Hall 0 01-16-2006 03:54 PM
Sick gambler screws another book...yet again The Major Mess Hall 120 09-27-2003 04:59 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:04 PM.


Please be advised that if you are wagering over the internet, this is illegal in many jurisdictions. A wagering site may be operating legally at their location but it may still be illegal for you to wager from your location. We suggest you check on the legal situation from any jurisdiction in which you may wager.
 

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6