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Old 10-24-2008, 11:17 AM
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UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote
Saturday, October 25th, 10 PM ET, live on PPV
Allstate Arena, Rosemont, Illinois
Weigh-in: Friday, October 24th, 5 PM ET, live on UFC.com
Current odds from Bookmaker.com

Josh "The People's Warrior" Burkman (18-7-0) vs. Pete "Drago" Sell (7-4-0)
Current Odds: Burkman -220; Sell +180


Burkman has lost 3 of his last 4, and while the fact that 5 of his last 6 have gone to decision speaks to his staying power in the Octagon, it also reflects his inability to finish fights. Sell, fighting out of Matt Serra's camp, has also struggled, with a 2-4 record in the Octagon, including 3 straight defeats. The last time he stepped into the Octagon was over a year ago, where he was KO'ed by Nate Quarry. He is coming down to welterweight from middleweight which may help his already excellent punching power. Burkman has a strong wrestling game, but is vulnerable to a submission, as Sell's jiu-jitsu is dangerous. I'll give Sell the edge here, but not convincingly. Prediction: Sell, 2nd round submission.

Hermes Franca (18-7-0) vs. Marcus "Maximus" Aurelio (16-6-0)
Current Odds: Franca -200; Aurelio +160


Franca was on an 8-fight win streak, earning him a title shot at Sean Sherk. A loss there was followed a year later by another loss to Frankie Edgar, though both were by decision, and Franca now finds himself banished to the UFC undercard. Aurelio is 2-2 in the UFC, though the losses came at the hands of talented opponents in Tyson Griffin and Clay Guida. He replaces an injured Gleison Tibau on this card. Both are great on the ground and have a history, training together in Brazil. Both need a win to avoid falling into obscurity, but Aurelio is not getting enough respect here and I'll lean his way. Prediction: Aurelio by decision.

Dan Miller (9-1-0) vs. Matt "Suave" Horwich (22-10-1)
Current Odds: Miller -345; Horwich +275


Miller won his UFC debut after finding some success in International Fight League and Ring of Combat events. He is replacing Ricardo Almeida in this bout after fighting just a month ago. Horwich is making his UFC debut after compiling a 7-4 record in the IFL, where he briefly held the middleweight title. Most of this fight should be decided on the ground where both are more comfortable. Horwich has the experience edge, and that, coupled with the short layoff for Miller, makes Horwich a decent upset candidate. Prediction: Horwich, 3rd round submission.

Spencer "The King" Fisher (21-4-0) vs. Shannon Gugerty (11-2-0)
Current Odds: Fisher -345; Gugerty +275


Fisher is only 2-2 in his last 4, but the fights were against decent opponents. Gugerty is replacing Melvin Guillard in this fight, and though he won his UFC debut, has yet to fight anyone of note. Fisher has a tough striking game, but Gugerty's experience on the mat may allow him to hang around. Nonetheless, Fisher is a tough opponent for an inexperienced fighter, and it should only be a matter of time until Fisher can finish this fight. Prediction: Fisher, 1st round TKO.

Thales Leites (13-1-0) vs. Drew "The Massacre" McFedries (7-4-0)
Current Odds: Leites -445; McFedries +365


Leites has ripped off four straight wins since losing to Martin Kampmann in his UFC debut. However, he stole an undeserved split decision in his last fight, against Nate Marquardt, as his opponent was docked a point in both the 2nd and 3rd rounds. McFedries has struggled to a 3-3 record since entering the UFC, including a 1st round submission loss to virtual unknown Mike Massenzio just a month ago. This is a classic style matchup, with the hard-hitting McFedries having a strong stand-up advantage, but Leites likely will dominate when the fight hits the mat. The jiu-jitsu guys tend to win this kind of fight, but an overrated Leites is a bit overpriced and McFedries definitely has a punchers chance at the big upset here if he can keep it standing long enough for his power to earn him a KO. Prediction: McFedries, 1st round KO.

Sean "Muscle Shark" Sherk (32-3-1) vs. Tyson Griffin (12-1-0)
Current Odds: Sherk -260; Griffin +210


Sherk reigned atop the UFC lightweight division until falling to B.J. Penn in his last bout. Prior to that, he held losses only to Georges St-Pierre and Matt Hughes, both during his welterweight days. Griffin is known for exciting fights, and hasn't lost since he faced Frankie Edgar at UFC 67, though all 4 victories since then have come via decision. Griffin is a well-rounded, tricky fighter, and should be able to game plan his way around Sherk's primary weapon, his brutal ground-and-pound. I see this as a much closer fight than the odds would suggest. Prediction: Griffin, 2nd round submission.

Fabricio "Vai Cavalo" Werdum (11-3-1) vs. Junior "Cigano" Dos Santos (6-1-0)
Current Odds: Werdum -850; Dos Santos +600


Werdum is 2-1 in the UFC, losing to Andrei Arlovski in his debut, but bouncing back with two straight TKO victories. His jiu-jitsu is off the chart and he is very dangerous on the ground. Dos Santos has cut his teeth in minor promotions, making this easily the biggest fight of his life, and against his toughest opponent to date. Dos Santos would be wise to keep this standing, where his striking is his best chance at a victory. Expect Werdum to continue his winning streak by making short work of the newcomer, but I wouldn't dare bet this heavy of chalk in the UFC. Prediction: Werdum, 2nd round submission.

Rich "No Love" Clementi (32-12-1) vs. Gray "The Bully" Maynard (5-0-0)
Current Odds: Clementi +190; Maynard -240


Clementi won six consecutive fights between September 2007 and May 2008; this is his return bout after a 5 month hiatus. Maynard is undefeated professionally, though his competition has been weak since he graduated from The Ultimate Fighter 5. This is his PPV debut, having struggled to decision wins in his last two Fight Night appearances. Maynard's strength in wrestling should be neutralized by Clementi, who can be tricky on the ground, and I'd give Clementi the advantage in striking as well. Look for Maynard to take his first loss at the hands of a much more experienced opponent. Prediction: Clementi, 1st round TKO.

Josh "Kos" Koscheck (11-2-0) vs. Thiago "Pit Bull" Alves (15-3-0)
Current Odds: Koscheck -165; Alves +135


Koscheck came off his decision loss to current champ Georges St-Pierre to rattle off two straight wins. Despite falling to St-Pierre, he is still widely considered one of the top contenders in the welterweight ranks. However, he is coming into this fight on short notice, stepping up to replace an injured Diego Sanchez. Alves has been given no favors in the UFC, with his last 3 fights against Chris Lytle, Karo Parisyan, and Matt Hughes, though all were probably a bit overrated at the time. Alves is dangerous in the Octagon and prevailed as nearly a 2-1 underdog in his last outing, indicating he might be a bit undervalued. Alves has had trouble making weight, including in his last bout, so that may warrant some consideration as well. Even with the short rest, Koscheck is way too talented to be this short of a favorite. Prediction: Koscheck, 2nd round TKO.

Anderson "The Spider" Silva (22-4-0) vs. Patrick "The Predator" Cote (13-4-0)
Current Odds: Silva -630; Cote +480


Silva is undefeated in seven trips to the Octagon and is widely considered the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. Usually there is little value backing such public darlings with bets. Cote is also on an extended winning streak, having last tasted defeat 6 fights and nearly 2 years ago. Cote has the skills to pull an upset if he comes in with the right game plan, and he's worth a shot at the long odds. Prediction: Cote, 3rd round TKO.

Picks (2008: 24-19 +4.50 units; Best Bets: 8-3 +3.55 units)
Matt Horwich +275
Drew McFedries +365
Tyson Griffin +210
Rich Clementi +190 (Best Bet)
Josh Koscheck -165 (Best Bet)
Patrick Cote +480


Opinions (2008: 29-28 +10.20 units)
Pete Sell +180
Marcus Aurelio +160
Spencer Fisher -345
Junior Dos Santos +600


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Old 10-24-2008, 03:05 PM
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COTE AT + 1000 IS A JUNK BET ..... Patrick Is going to sleep ...Nobody is beating The Spider right now ! I'll take the Cote action !! Same chances as last week taking Wash St on money line ..
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:06 PM
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UFC 90 official weigh-in results (updated) | MMAjunkie.com

by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Oct 24, 2008 at 4:30 pm ET

All 20 fighters taking part in Saturday night's "UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote" hit the scales this afternoon at the Chicago Theater in Chicago. The festivities began at 5 p.m. ET (2 p.m. PT), and all ten bouts are now official.

Josh Burkman, who will be facing Pete Sell in the evening's opening bout, was two pounds over the allowed limit of 171 pounds and was given 60 minutes to lose the needed weight. All other competitors made the weight without issue.

Main event competitors Anderson Silva and Patrick Cote didn't even need the full 185 pounds of the middleweight limit in making their title fight official. The champion Silva weighed in at 184 pounds, while Cote -- after signaling the belt would soon be around his waist -- registered just 183 pounds.

After an intense, face-to-face staredown, both seemed confident in their abilities.

"I can't wait," Cote told event emcee Joe Rogan. "I trained real hard for this fight, and I'm ready to shock the world."

Silva, considered by many the world's greatest fighter, played gleefully with Rogan before announcing his intentions.

"It's going to be fun," Silva said through his manager, Ed Soares. "I hope everyone likes the fight."

UFC 90 takes place Saturday night at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Ill., just outside of Chicago.

As a reminder, MMAjunkie.com will have full round-by-round updates and official results of both the preliminary and main cards of tomorrow's pay-per-view event.

Join us for live updates, ongoing discussions with fellow readers, and full event coverage throughout the evening.

Official results:

MAIN CARD

* Middleweight champ Anderson Silva (184) vs. Patrick Cote (183)
* Thiago Alves (171) vs. Josh Koscheck (170)
* Junior dos Santos (234) vs. Fabricio Werdum (256)
* Tyson Griffin (155) vs. Sean Sherk (156)
* Rich Clementi (156) vs. Gray Maynard (155)

PRELIMINARY CARD

* Thales Leites (186) vs. Drew McFedries (186)
* Spencer Fisher (155) vs. Shannon Gugerty (156)
* Matt Horwich (186) vs. Dan Miller (185)
* Marcus Aurelio (156) vs. Hermes Franca (156)
* Pete Sell (170) vs. Josh Burkman (171)*

*Burkman, who initially weighed in at 173 pounds, was given 60 minutes to lose an additional two pounds. Burkman weighed in at 171 pounds on his second attempt, and the bout will go on as planned. Burkman will not be subject to any purse penalty.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:54 PM
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Bas Rutten: Anderson Silva seems to be unstoppable. If he takes this lightly -- what he probably did against Ryo Chonan [at Pride “Shockwave 2004”] -- he might get caught with not a submission but a strike. But I believe he learned from that mistake and will be ready, especially because he said he wants to retire; he wants to end up on top. I think Silva is going to win, either by KO or submission, but I have been wrong before. Logic doesn’t work in MMA, I found out.

Ricardo Liborio: Anderson should win if the fight stays up. [He’s] got to be careful with a hard hitter [in] Cote.

Dewey Cooper: Silva is the most well-versed MMA fighter in the game right now. In order to defeat him, Cote will have to be aggressive and land punishing strikes, as well as not go to the ground. [He must] outwork Silva or land a one punch knockout-type of blow. Cote is a good challenge for Silva. He has good, explosive punching power, but right now, Silva is [at] the top of the food chain. I predict Silva by second-round KO win, finishing him with dynamic strikes.

Jason Lambert: Silva [by] KO.

Jorge Santiago: Anderson will win by KO [via] flying knee.

Pete Sell: My boy Cote by knockout. Cote is a tough fighter and will not shy away. There is upset [written] all over this fight.

Rich Clementi: I think it’s going to be a lot closer than people think. Cote is a real gamer. Great fight, but Anderson comes away with a win via pure beauty.

Jeff Monson: Anderson Silva by KO. I don’t know what Cote can do in this one.

Guy Mezger: Cote has the puncher’s chance to win. Silva has better skills on stand-up and [on the] ground. If I was a betting man, I would have to go with Silva.

Alan Belcher: Good match. You rarely ever see a match where neither fighter wants to go to the ground. Cote will get beat if he stands, and if he tries to take [Silva] down, it will be worse for him. Anything can happen.


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The pros do not see a
letdown from the sport's
pound-for-pound ace.Ron Frazier: Anderson Silva by second-round TKO.

Zac George: Competitive first round, [but] Silva gets comfortable and [starts to] land hard. Silva [by] TKO [or] KO [in the] second round.

Troy Mandaloniz: The cards are in Anderson’s favor, but Cote may shock the world.

Trevor Prangley: Silva in dramatic fashion.

Randy Couture: Patrick Cote is always gonna have a puncher’s chance in any fight, and he is a very diligent fighter, but he doesn’t have enough tools to deal with Anderson. Cote’s strength is his stand-up, and that’s a bad idea with the long, rangy [and] precise Silva.

Mac Danzig: Silva seems mildly immortal right now. Cote is great, but he’s a mortal like the rest of us. Silva will lose eventually, but not now, not to Cote.

Kevin Burns: Anderson Silva is on top of his game, and Cote will be another victim of his skills. Cote’s a good fighter but not on [Silva’s] level.

Mike Whitehead: Silva [in] round two, [by] KO. I like Cote, though.

Nick Thompson: No doubt Cote is tough, but that isn’t going to be enough to beat Anderson. See Anderson versus Leben for how this fight ends.

Travis Lutter: I have fought both guys, and they are basically the same fighter. The major difference is Anderson is just way better at everything. I don’t see this fight going to the second round.

Micah Miller: It’s my man crush versus one of my heroes. With the proper gameplan, Cote can keep it close, but Silva is more well-rounded, and I think that will shine through in the second.

Luigi Fioravanti: Silva by KO or submission [in] round two.

Gabe Ruediger: Anderson will finish him within three rounds. Cote is a tough fighter and skilled, but Anderson is on a different level.

Chael Sonnen: I like Cote in this one. I think Patrick will stand up to him.

Cub Swanson: Silva [via] first-round TKO.

Matt Lindland: Are you kidding me? Anderson takes this easily.

Johny Hendricks: I don’t think anybody can beat Silva right now; he’s too good. He doesn’t have to worry about takedowns, he’s got heavy hands and throws clean strikes, good kicks, he’s good in the clinch and his ground game is good. Patrick, I don’t think, has anything to offer to that. He can hit hard, and, if he can catch him, I think that’s the only real way he can win that fight. I think Patrick is going to come out and try to take him down, because that’s where his only weakness is, and he’ll try and stay on top and maybe try to pull out a boring win. Now if he can do that, I think that’s the only way [Cote] is going to win. That’s really the only way somebody is going to beat Anderson right now. If Cote doesn’t do that, and he comes out and tries to bang, it’s going to be a very, very quick fight.

Marvin Eastman: Anderson by submission [in the] third round.

Kit Cope: Silva versus Cote is a lesson in futility. Cote would need to have something new and deadly in his arsenal that we haven’t seen yet to beat Silva. Anderson is too technical in all areas, and Patrick isn’t really a standout in any. I call Silva before halfway through the second.

Mark Selbee: “The Spider” wins easy. He may truly be the best pound-for-pound fighter today. He simply outclasses Patrick Cote on every level. Cote will fight like a warrior but lacks the tools necessary to be competitive.

Duke Roufus: Cote is on a great upswing in his career, but Silva is on a streak beating so many great fighters convincingly. Patrick should swing for the fences. Silva [by] KO [in the] second round.

Jaime Fletcher: Cote will come out more than willing to trade with his big right hand. Just because of the way both of these guys like to throw bombs, I can’t see it lasting long. Silva by KO [in the] second round.

Erik Paulson: I think that Anderson is more well-rounded on the ground than Cote, and that’s where this fight might end up.

Eddy Millis: Silva, Silva, Silva by KO. Boot to the head.

The Final Tallies

Pros who picked Silva: 27
Pros who picked Cote: 2
No pick: 5
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Jay does good job writing this stuff up. Its good for the books that advertsie here and the players because it draws interest in the sport and the wagering aspect of it.

props for job well done
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QUICK RESULTS:

Main Card Bouts:

-Anderson Silva def. Patrick Cote by TKO (knee injury) at 0:39, RD3
Thiago Alves def. Josh Koscheck by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28, 30-27)
Gray Maynard def. Rich Clementi by Unanimous Decision (30-27) on all judges cards
Junior dos Santos def. Fabricio Werdum by KO in RD1, 1:20
Sean Sherk def. Tyson Griffin by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28, 29-28)

Preliminary Bouts:

Thales Leites def. Drew McFedries by Submission (Rear Naked Choke) in RD1, 1:18
Spencer Fisher def. Shannon Gugerty by Submission (Triangle Choke) in RD3, 3:56
Dan Miller def. Matt Horwich by Unanimous Decision (29-28) on all judges cards
Hermes Franca def. Marcus Aurelio by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28, 29-28)
Pete Sell def. Josh Burkman by Unanimous Decision (29-28) on all judges cards
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Jay does good job writing this stuff up. Its good for the books that advertsie here and the players because it draws interest in the sport and the wagering aspect of it.

props for job well done
thanks Oddessa


although I got my ass kicked this time out...guess that's what happens when you bet all dogs in the UFC

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dg, any links to videos of the fights?
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:49 PM
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to be honest I haven't even seen the fights yet period


was too busy celebrating the PSU win...more bars need to show UFC
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XLfight.hu küzdősport hírek - küzdősport képek videók

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UFC 90 Gray Maynard vs. Rich Clementi - Home (Don.C).avi
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UFC 90 Anderson Silva vs. Patrick Cote-www.fight2live.net (Don.C) .avi
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Fabricio Werdum vs. Junior dos Santos
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Tyson Griffin vs. Sean Sherk

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Thales Leites vs. Drew McFedries
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Which is the best fight to watch out of these?

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Griffen/Sherk
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