A perfect example why I don't trust online poker

[Dell Dude]

Originally Posted by robin

most of yall sound like nostaw.........a clueless puttz who has never gambled .

It's raining sharp posts.

[dinque]

Originally Posted by robin

u dont even gamble on poker ..or any american sport so please..sffu

i have never busted your balls...



unless u wanta sit next to nostaw at the next bash stfu

just because i dont gamble doesn't mean i can't critique.it really is a pet peeve when someone at the racetrack tells me how fixed every race is and then asks me who i like next race.when you say online poker is fixed you infer that all of us who play it are idiots for trying to beat a bullshit game so actually you were calling me out.just tried to turn it back on you.
some of my friends own full tilt.you cannot imagine how much money they make running an honest game,if anyone can prove their game is dishonest it would ruin their business.sorry you took this so personally but it was actually you who attacked me.by the way i really have been known to make a bet now and then but i am a lousy poker player

[KingKilla]

I am not agree with the guy that said that poker is a waste of time and that every single pro is broke, I think is a matter of knowing your limitations...

In fact, Poker is a great deal of fun, the bad thing is when you find yourself with a poker addiction...

[PSYCOTINE]

Originally Posted by KingKilla

I am not agree with the guy that said that poker is a waste of time and that every single pro is broke, I think is a matter of knowing your limitations...

In fact, Poker is a great deal of fun, the bad thing is when you find yourself with a poker addiction...

live poker is a great deal of fun. poker offered on the internet and run by 3rd world locations are not.

[dinque]

i enjoy it the other way around.hate live poker and am okay with the net

[StarnetGypsy]

i'm in the LIVE camp. like to smell the cigar smoke (well, before restrictions), sound of glasses clinking ice cubes, feel the tension around the table, and the sound of slots ringing in the background. cant stand online, just too damned sterile and doesn't heighten my senses one iota.

life is about sensations imjo. feel the noise baby!

[dinque]

then you have to deal with people.i hate people

[robin]

Originally Posted by dinque

just because i dont gamble doesn't mean i can't critique.it really is a pet peeve when someone at the racetrack tells me how fixed every race is and then asks me who i like next race.when you say online poker is fixed you infer that all of us who play it are idiots for trying to beat a bullshit game so actually you were calling me out.just tried to turn it back on you.
some of my friends own full tilt.you cannot imagine how much money they make running an honest game,if anyone can prove their game is dishonest it would ruin their business.sorry you took this so personally but it was actually you who attacked me.by the way i really have been known to make a bet now and then but i am a lousy poker player

well where do i start everything is so wrong in your post i honestly dont know where to start.

first of all i do and have make a fairly decent living from online poker since the start of it.

second yes i have read party gamings public financials and read 2plus2 eight hours a day so i have a very good idea what these sites make .

yes its a lot.

i could care less about your friends owning full tilt.

if they owned ap or ub who have been proven cheats would u say the same thing.

both ap and ub have been 100 percent proven cheats and their business hasnt dropped of at all.again youre wrong.

its your opinion its a fair game and its my probably 5 million hands in opinion its not.

neither is right and neither is wrong......both just opinions.

people like u said the same thing before the ap/ ub scandal..turns out it was the owners stealing millions....

but yes they are all on the up and up because u are friends with the owners...LMAO.

I like u and im sorry for being out of line..but your last post was 100 percent wrong..every word.

[dinque]

i know these people.i would bet high they don't cheat.i have no idea who owns the other sites and i have read the posts,do you think they were cheating at all levels?why can't some sites be honest?maybe at full tilt there is a rogue partner but there are so many partners i can't believe they all sat down and decided to rob their public.some are pretty famous poker players.i know there is plenty of two player collusion but i am sticking to my opinion that the site itself is honest

[robin]

Originally Posted by dinque

i know these people.i would bet high they don't cheat.i have no idea who owns the other sites and i have read the posts,do you think they were cheating at all levels?why can't some sites be honest?maybe at full tilt there is a rogue partner but there are so many partners i can't believe they all sat down and decided to rob their public.some are pretty famous poker players.i know there is plenty of two player collusion but i am sticking to my opinion that the site itself is honest

Full Tilt Poker's "60 Day" Policy and Audit! Perspectives Weekly February 29th, 2008 - APCW Interactive


please watch this video.

everybody please watch this video if u play online.

after u watch it..please try to rationally refute his claims. im not sayinng hes right or wrong.

just please explain how what hes saying to be false as far as the math.

u ask why cant some sites be honest....of course they can.

enron and worldcom didnt have to steal billions either..they choose to over greed i assume.

no offense but just because u know someone it doesnt make them on the up and up.

if u sit down and really truly examine the math behind the sites u would rfully realize one thing..


for them to sustain them sleves as a business and keep making anyhwere close to what they made in the past they must rigg the software to keep the 95 percent of players who lose around paying rake.

take a 2-4 limit table with 9 players and each player has 100 bucks..

after one hour 70 bucks is gone from the table....2 hours 140...low and behold after 13 hours of play evry single person from the table is broke....


and that is in no manner accounting for the 2 players at the table who are much better than the others who in a real game would clean up.

beleive me or not i dont care..but simple math dicatates these sites do whatever it takes to protect the 95 percent losing fish.

[PSYCOTINE]

nice post robin.....stopped donating 2 yrs ago.. just felt so stupid after a while of playing online..could have given that money to the bum up the street! maybe one day when we have an american outfit opening an online pokerroom i will be back to try. no disrespect to the guys making a living doing this, gotta be a sweet life...

[dinque]

it was interesting.i am not sure if you can do enuff to keep most fish afloat.the players are so much better then when i began.at least i understand the theory.

[robin]

Originally Posted by PSYCOTINE

nice post robin.....stopped donating 2 yrs ago.. just felt so stupid after a while of playing online..could have given that money to the bum up the street! maybe one day when we have an american outfit opening an online pokerroom i will be back to try. no disrespect to the guys making a living doing this, gotta be a sweet life...

it wont be long before the vegas giants take over 12-18 months imo.

then and only then the games might be on the up and up.

[StarnetGypsy]

and i feel sorry for anybody getting caught colluding

[Hartley]

it wont be long before the vegas giants take over 12-18 months imo.

then and only then the games might be on the up and up.

I'm confused Robin. What would Vegas giants do differently than offshore poker sites are doing now? As long as they are using RNGs to allot the cards nothing will be different.

Take a look at LIVE ONLINE CASINO. A REAL CASINO WITH LIVE DEALERS & TABLES ONLINE.. SECURE GAMBLING. RESULTS YOU CAN TRUST. GREAT MONTHLY PROMOTIONS. Do you think that may be the future of online poker?

What makes DublinBet.com so much better than all the others?
DublinBet.com allows you to view an actual live game in action via the very latest webcasting technology. All results are determined from a real game played in an actual casino. Not only can you view the game in motion real time, but you can rest easy in the knowledge that these results are not being generated by a computer and are totally authentic.

[robin]

Originally Posted by Hartley

it wont be long before the vegas giants take over 12-18 months imo.

then and only then the games might be on the up and up.

I'm confused Robin. What would Vegas giants do differently than offshore poker sites are doing now? As long as they are using RNGs to allot the cards nothing will be different.

Take a look at LIVE ONLINE CASINO. A REAL CASINO WITH LIVE DEALERS & TABLES ONLINE.. SECURE GAMBLING. RESULTS YOU CAN TRUST. GREAT MONTHLY PROMOTIONS. Do you think that may be the future of online poker?

What makes DublinBet.com so much better than all the others?
DublinBet.com allows you to view an actual live game in action via the very latest webcasting technology. All results are determined from a real game played in an actual casino. Not only can you view the game in motion real time, but you can rest easy in the knowledge that these results are not being generated by a computer and are totally authentic.

well i trust regulated billion dollar american casinos a lot more than i third world unregulated proven cheating sites. dont u?


i trust the neveda gcb a lot more than i do some frauds out of canada.


u mention rng..its my contention that the r def doesnt stand for random..just rigged...and if u look at the math behind it it seems fairly obv they cant be on the up and up.

[howid]

went through the process enough times to know every place i sampled online poker was rigged.

there's a pattern to it, early on i would win, later suffering unbelievably bad beats so infuriating steam was coming out of my head as i sent more and more cash in to right the ''unlucky streak.''


quit playing entirely a couple of years ago and haven't missed it one bit, sports or nothing for me.

[robin]

Originally Posted by Hartley

it wont be long before the vegas giants take over 12-18 months imo.

then and only then the games might be on the up and up.

I'm confused Robin. What would Vegas giants do differently than offshore poker sites are doing now? As long as they are using RNGs to allot the cards nothing will be different.

Take a look at LIVE ONLINE CASINO. A REAL CASINO WITH LIVE DEALERS & TABLES ONLINE.. SECURE GAMBLING. RESULTS YOU CAN TRUST. GREAT MONTHLY PROMOTIONS. Do you think that may be the future of online poker?

What makes DublinBet.com so much better than all the others?
DublinBet.com allows you to view an actual live game in action via the very latest webcasting technology. All results are determined from a real game played in an actual casino. Not only can you view the game in motion real time, but you can rest easy in the knowledge that these results are not being generated by a computer and are totally authentic.

as far as the future of online poker i strongly feel that once the usa regulates,, and they will harrahs , mgm maybe even yahoo , google will buy out party- stars- ft and there will be a second boom of online poker like u couldnt imagine..


imagiine regulated , easy to deposit and withdraw money, heavy advertised www.harrahspoker.com

it would be like party poiker in 2004....a moneypress practically

[Dell Dude]

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