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Old 08-21-2004, 06:33 PM
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Default PACIFIC CLASSIC @ DEL MAR SUNDAY

Biggest race of the meet, one of the better ones of the year. Here is who i will have going, GL...........



# 3 CHOCTAW NATION WIN PLACE


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3 ON TOP OF

2 Colonial Colony
4 Perfect Drift
5 PleasantlY Perfect

also will have the tri 3-2/4/5-2/4/5

I will also be playing the Espinoza double leading with Choctaw Nation as well as Espinoza Pick 3 leading with the Nation

A little side note the chalk has won this race once since its inceoption a decade plus ago.


I would love to hear what everybody is playing.
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Old 08-21-2004, 06:35 PM
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Tiger haven't looked at the race but have always liked Perfect Drift. Will try to take a look if I can.
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Old 08-21-2004, 06:37 PM
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Pleasantly Perfect is the best horse on the planet bar none and if he runs his race,nobody else can take him.
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Old 08-21-2004, 06:38 PM
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Please do Loman, thanks.
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Old 08-21-2004, 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by: moneyline
Pleasantly Perfect is the best horse on the planet bar none and if he runs his race,nobody else can take him.


Part of being the best horse is making sure you run your best race. GL.
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Old 08-21-2004, 06:42 PM
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My point was that his very best race is better than any others best race they can run.
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Old 08-21-2004, 06:48 PM
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Colonial Colony if I can get a fair price
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Old 08-21-2004, 06:49 PM
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Plenty of talent. Not a whole lot of pace. Pleasently Perfect seems to have needed last. Very talented,but will he be close enough to what might be a pedestrian pace? Bailey up is always a good thing. Delmar can be speed favoring,but don't klnow how it is running currently. Night Patrol and During showed set the early fractions. Perfect Drift may be over matched here. Total Impact is very interesting.If I make a play will include him. Not sure if Choctaw is as good as these or not,but hasn't done anything wrong.Should get a price on him Tiger.
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Old 08-21-2004, 06:50 PM
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ML,

I know what you meant, just my way of saying I disagree, GL.



Buck,

I dont think youll have a problem. I say he goes off higher then the ML (8-1)
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Old 08-21-2004, 09:03 PM
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El Eligado-too slow

Colonial Colony-his form is underrated but not sure if he is up to PP

Choctaw Nation-his form is overrated, betting against Mullins is sure fire way to get killed, only thing he has beat is PP, i believe both CC and PD have been in vs tougher and when he beat PP he was getting 10lbs he won't be getting here.

Perfect Drift-short rest but animal rounding back into top form? TOugh to go with off two weeks and the trip but not without a shot.

Pleasantly Perfect-Mandella, Pacific Classic, 10lb shift and he probably wasn't on edge for his last-looks tough as nails to me.

Total Impact-his form is overrated-nice trip last time out vs mediocre animals-he is in tougher here and not expecting a mature horse to step up.

night Patrol-too slow.

During-expect a better effort second back, probably not good enough to threaten.

Just one man's opinion,

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Old 08-21-2004, 09:20 PM
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Thanks for the write up TA.


Good stuff
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Old 08-22-2004, 02:36 AM
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I agree. Pleasantly Perfect looks like the winner. Gonna try to beat him for a price with Total Impact. He's win at the dist and carried the weight. Also like the 7/8 work (124 2/5) on the 12th. Think Mike Smith will put him on the lead.

Tiger, gl with Choctaw Nation.
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Old 08-22-2004, 12:45 PM
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Gonna play an Impact/Drift boxed exacta for fun.
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Old 08-22-2004, 12:49 PM
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Colonial Colony and Perfect Drift are tossouts for me....remember how the east coast horses fared in last years BC? Terrible. During has trained just as well and as good as Pleaseantly Perfect and I expect those two to be much the best in this field, slight edge for the BC/DWC Champ for the win.
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Old 08-22-2004, 12:52 PM
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Anyone have the morning line?
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Old 08-22-2004, 01:34 PM
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Tiger's isn't Choctaw trained by that hot trainer that I can't ever remember the name of ???

Pleasantly Perfect may not get interested until next month.
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Old 08-22-2004, 01:36 PM
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1 1 El Elogiado (ARG) Desormeaux K J McAnally Ronald 124 0 L 30-1
2 2 Colonial Colony Bejarano R Bindner Walter M Jr 124 0 L 8-1
3 3 Choctaw Nation Espinoza V Mullins Jeff 124 0 L 9-2
4 4 Perfect Drift Day P Johnson Murray W 124 0 L 7-2
5 5 Pleasantly Perfect Bailey J D Mandella Richard 124 0 L 6-5
6 6 Total Impact (CHI) Smith M E De Seroux Laura 124 0 L 6-1
7 7 Night Patrol Baze T C Polanco Marcelo 124 0 L 20-1
8 8 During Nakatani C S Baffert Bob 124 0 L 12-1
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Old 08-22-2004, 02:07 PM
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Default RE:PACIFIC CLASSIC @ DEL MAR SUNDAY

Some other things-

CN has never been the trip.

The trip does not favor closers in general.

Second back is usually extremely overrated at least based on past results.

I watched the replay of the last meeting again last night and PP was rank too.

Fat1 that was a long time ago.

I will probably pass but if they don't give the big horse respect, I'll be in line.

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Old 08-22-2004, 02:40 PM
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Buzz,

The Nation is trained by Jeff Mullins who is on fire and pushing all the right buttons.

TA,

I think what we have here is a very Special kind of closer, this horse here has a turn of foot that puts him from last to in the race extremely fast and better then any closer in training right now. The added distance should be to his liking.


What I have on my side might be the combo of the possibly the best and most underated horse/jockey/trainer in the land right now and I hope I get 4-1 or higher.

If anyone rides with me on this, my advice is to go all the way with me on the DD and Pick 3's.



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