UFC 86: Preview and Predictions...By Jay Graziani

[TheVig]

Josh Koscheck vs. Chris Lytle is up now.

Crowd doesn't like Koscheck. Koscheck wants to box. We'll see about that idea. Nice high kick by Lytle. Koscheck tried the killer high kick but missed bad and fell down. Koscheck got the takedown and Lytle went for a guillotine. Koscheck is on top doing little. A few body shots and a short elbow. Koscheck got a hard elbow in. Koscheck is just outwrestling Lytle. He threw a few hard shots at the buzzer. Not much of a round. I guess Koscheck close at 10-9.

Koscheck took Lytle down again. Hard knees and elbows by Koscheck. Lytle going for a guillotine as Koscheck went for another takedown. Koscheck wasn't in trouble. Koscheck thrwoing some punches from the top. He's busted Lytle's left eye with elbows. Blood is all over the camera lense and the mat. There is a lot of blood. It's actually a puddle of blood. They may have to stop this. Lytle's right eye is cut and starting to swell badly. Crowd cheered the round heavy. The cut on the right side looks awful. I don't know about this one. continuing. Koscheck 10-8.

Lytle is coming out for three. Lytle punched Koscheck as he stuffed the takedwon. Lytle is working for an armbar and now a guilltone, a choke, and another guillotine. Koscheck escaped. Great moment. Now Koscheck using more elbows from the top. Methodical working of the cut by Koscheck. They ordered a stand-up. Corwd going jnutws for Lytle because he's covered with blood coming from the right eye and maybe the left ear. Lytle camein punching. Loud Lytle chant. 30 seconds left. Trading punches. Koscheck is an awesome heel, you had to see the finish. 10-9 Koscheck so 30-26 is the score I've got.

The two hugged when it was over. 30-26, 29-27, 30-28 for Koscheck. Man did they boo Koscheck.

[TheVig]

Joe Stevenson vs. Gleison Tibau is next. Tibau came out to "Iron Man." If you think that was old school wrestling, Tyson Griffin came out to "Eye of the Tiger."

Tibau connected with a a punch. Stevenson rushed him and got him down. Now it's the Stevenson guilltoine but Tibau got out. Tibau has his back working for a choke. Stevenson knows he's in a fight right now. Tibau got another takedown. Elbow by Stevenson leading to a slam. Uma plata by Tibeau. Tibeau has Stegvenson in the hold. Stevenson is relaxed acting like he's bored and it doesn't hurt him, trying for a stand-up. Steve Mazzagatti is 100 yards away making no move to stand them. Stevenson's facials aren't helping his case because the ref sees it as being challenged. Time ran out in the round. 10-9 Tibau.

Stevenson charged looking for a takedown. Another taekdown by Tibaue. A f ew punches by Tibeau but nothing connecting. Strong takedown by Tibaeau. He's got Stevenson pinned. Stevenson is trying to bridge out. Full mount now by Tibeau. High kick. Tibaeau took him down but Stevenson grabbed his guillotine and this time Tibau couldn't get out. Once again the guy winning ont he scorecard got submitted.

Believe it or not, the UFC poll has 53% thinking Forrest Griffin will win and 47% for Jackson. That's just shocking.

Patrick Cote vs. Ricardo Almeida is up.

[TheVig]

Patrick Cote vs. Ricardo Almeida is up.

Miguel Torres shown. No reaction.
Almeida jumped in the air to get a guillotine and essentially pulled guard to get it to the ground. Cote is in the deep water right now. Cote escaped and wants to box. Almeida tried a knee but missed. Almeida moved in for a takedown. Almeida finally got the takedown. Almeida doing some ground and pound. Some punches got through late to take the round 10-9.

Almeida pulled guard again after failing on a takedown. Cote got up. Cote starting to box. Interesting that there was some booing tonight, but all of it came during stand-ups. Even when action was slow on the ground people were fine with it. Almeida tried a guillotine but Cote escaped. Cote decked him as time ran out. Probably spelled he difference in a dull round so it's 19-19.

Cote hit Cote with a low kick 90 seconds into a nothing happening round. This is one of those matches where it doesn't matter who won, because both are coming out the worst. Cote did another low kick. Crowd actually could be turning on it worse then they were. Another low kick by Cote. Almeida scored with a punch and a second while Cote back with a low kick. Fight comes down to this last minute. Who wants it more. Or less. Almeida got the takedown. He's got side control. Now Cote is on top. I don't know how to score this. Really was close but I've got 29-28 Cote.

Scores were 29-28, 28-29, 29-28 for Cote. Cote was booed after but it still appeared 80% of the crowd thought he won as when the judge for Almeida was announced, people were pretty darn mad.

[TheVig]

By Y! Sports Staff
8 minutes ago

Buzz Up PrintLAS VEGAS – Match-by-match results from the Mandalay Bay Events Center.

UFC light heavyweight championship: Forrest Griffin def. Quinton Jackon, unanimous decision, to win title
Judges scores: Adalaide Byrd 48-46, Nelson Hamilton 48-46, Roy Silbert 49-46 Y! Sports scores: Kevin Iole scores it 48-46 Griffin; Dave Meltzer and Dave Doyle score it a 47-47 draw.

Round 1: Crowd is deafening and very much pro-Griffin as the fight begins. Griffin starts with a few low kicks. Jackson misses a right uppercut. Griffin’s punches are coming up short as crowd roars his name. Griffin lands a right to the head. Griffin lands a right inside. Griffin connects with a low kick. Griffin is setting the pace. Left to the chin by Jackson backs Griffin up. It probably didn’t land fully. Left and a right by Jackson. Griffin kicking a lot, mostly at Jackson’s legs. Hard combination by Jackson wobbles Griffin. Griffin backs Jackson up with a combination and a kick. They clinch on the cage. Jackson’s having trouble moving from the kicks. Left leg seems to be bothering him. Right uppercut from Jackson knocks Griffin down. Jackson lands several hard shots as Griffin is working his way up. Griffin lands two good knees to the midsection. Crowd is roaring as the round ends. Jackson’s round, 10-9

Round 2: Kick to leg really hurts Jackson. He may not be able to last. Griffin lands a few knees and takes Jackson down. Jackson is in big trouble, because he can’t move on his left leg. Griffin is in half guard and firing a couple of elbows. Jackson is doing nothing as Griffin moves to side control. Griffin is going for an arm bar, but Jackson gets out. Griffin is still in a dominant position. Griffin throws a few rights to the head. Many in the crowd are standing. Griffin gets mount. Jackson could be in deep trouble. Griffin throwing more elbows as the crowd roars its encouragement. Griffin’s round, 10-8

Round 3: Jackson is walking a little better than he was earlier. They trade inside, but Griffin dances away from trouble. One good kick to the leg and Jackson will likely be in big trouble and in danger of being stopped. Griffin kicking at the leg. Jackson blocks a high kick with his forearm. Combination by Jackson connects. Left by Jackson backs up Griffin. Griffin lands a kick to Jackson’s bad left leg, but it doesn’t seem to do much damage. The pace has slowed greatly. Griffin misses a kick to the head. Griffin lands a pair of lefts. Jackson lands a right, but Griffin ducks away from the rest of the bombs. Griffin’s round, 10-9

Round 4:Jackson lands a combination, including a hard right. Jackson lands two right uppercuts. They go down and Jackson is in Griffin’s guard. Griffin appears to be cut on the right eyebrow. The crowd is chanting for Jackson. Griffin slaps on a triangle, but Jackson slams him to break it. Jackson again in the guard with Griffin looking to find a submission. Jackson lands a few punches to the head. Griffin nearly puts Jackson in an armbar. Jackson escapes and lands a combination of punches. They’re back on their feet in the middle of the ring. Griffin lands a left. Jackson lands a right that pushes Griffin back. Jackson is doing a good job of avoiding the low kicks. Big left and then a right by Jackson. Another good left to the head by Jackson. Jackson lands a left-right combination. Hard combination to the body by Jackson. Jackson’s round, 10-9

Round 5: Griffin is circling as the round opens and flips a jab. Jackson misss a wild right. Griffin is short on a combination. Griffin lands a kick to the injured left leg of the reigning champion. Right by Griffin. Knee in the clinch by Griffin. Left-right by Jackson. Right to the body by Jackson. Right to the chin by Griffin. Jackson’s title reign seems to be slipping away. He needs to make something happen. Griffin is fighting a smart fight. Jackson connects with a right inside. Jackson lands a hard combination. There is a minute left and the crowd is roaring. Jackson lands a left. Griffin lands a low kick. Griffin is dancing away as Jackson charges in. They clinch as the bell sounds. Griffin’s round.

[luke m.]

Why did this fight only go 5 rounds? I thought it goes 12 rounds unless its a knockout.

[littleogre]

Originally Posted by TheVig

By Y! Sports Staff
8 minutes ago

Buzz Up PrintLAS VEGAS – Match-by-match results from the Mandalay Bay Events Center.

UFC light heavyweight championship: Forrest Griffin def. Quinton Jackon, unanimous decision, to win title
Judges scores: Adalaide Byrd 48-46, Nelson Hamilton 48-46, Roy Silbert 49-46 Y! Sports scores: Kevin Iole scores it 48-46 Griffin; Dave Meltzer and Dave Doyle score it a 47-47 draw.

Round 1: Crowd is deafening and very much pro-Griffin as the fight begins. Griffin starts with a few low kicks. Jackson misses a right uppercut. Griffin’s punches are coming up short as crowd roars his name. Griffin lands a right to the head. Griffin lands a right inside. Griffin connects with a low kick. Griffin is setting the pace. Left to the chin by Jackson backs Griffin up. It probably didn’t land fully. Left and a right by Jackson. Griffin kicking a lot, mostly at Jackson’s legs. Hard combination by Jackson wobbles Griffin. Griffin backs Jackson up with a combination and a kick. They clinch on the cage. Jackson’s having trouble moving from the kicks. Left leg seems to be bothering him. Right uppercut from Jackson knocks Griffin down. Jackson lands several hard shots as Griffin is working his way up. Griffin lands two good knees to the midsection. Crowd is roaring as the round ends. Jackson’s round, 10-9

Round 2: Kick to leg really hurts Jackson. He may not be able to last. Griffin lands a few knees and takes Jackson down. Jackson is in big trouble, because he can’t move on his left leg. Griffin is in half guard and firing a couple of elbows. Jackson is doing nothing as Griffin moves to side control. Griffin is going for an arm bar, but Jackson gets out. Griffin is still in a dominant position. Griffin throws a few rights to the head. Many in the crowd are standing. Griffin gets mount. Jackson could be in deep trouble. Griffin throwing more elbows as the crowd roars its encouragement. Griffin’s round, 10-8

Round 3: Jackson is walking a little better than he was earlier. They trade inside, but Griffin dances away from trouble. One good kick to the leg and Jackson will likely be in big trouble and in danger of being stopped. Griffin kicking at the leg. Jackson blocks a high kick with his forearm. Combination by Jackson connects. Left by Jackson backs up Griffin. Griffin lands a kick to Jackson’s bad left leg, but it doesn’t seem to do much damage. The pace has slowed greatly. Griffin misses a kick to the head. Griffin lands a pair of lefts. Jackson lands a right, but Griffin ducks away from the rest of the bombs. Griffin’s round, 10-9

Round 4:Jackson lands a combination, including a hard right. Jackson lands two right uppercuts. They go down and Jackson is in Griffin’s guard. Griffin appears to be cut on the right eyebrow. The crowd is chanting for Jackson. Griffin slaps on a triangle, but Jackson slams him to break it. Jackson again in the guard with Griffin looking to find a submission. Jackson lands a few punches to the head. Griffin nearly puts Jackson in an armbar. Jackson escapes and lands a combination of punches. They’re back on their feet in the middle of the ring. Griffin lands a left. Jackson lands a right that pushes Griffin back. Jackson is doing a good job of avoiding the low kicks. Big left and then a right by Jackson. Another good left to the head by Jackson. Jackson lands a left-right combination. Hard combination to the body by Jackson. Jackson’s round, 10-9

Round 5: Griffin is circling as the round opens and flips a jab. Jackson misss a wild right. Griffin is short on a combination. Griffin lands a kick to the injured left leg of the reigning champion. Right by Griffin. Knee in the clinch by Griffin. Left-right by Jackson. Right to the body by Jackson. Right to the chin by Griffin. Jackson’s title reign seems to be slipping away. He needs to make something happen. Griffin is fighting a smart fight. Jackson connects with a right inside. Jackson lands a hard combination. There is a minute left and the crowd is roaring. Jackson lands a left. Griffin lands a low kick. Griffin is dancing away as Jackson charges in. They clinch as the bell sounds. Griffin’s round.

rather shocking outcome but forest did a great job using his reach

[TheVig]

Originally Posted by luke m.

Why did this fight only go 5 rounds? I thought it goes 12 rounds unless its a knockout.

Special rules for this fight, with the stipulations being a bra and pantie pillow fight, the Nevada Fight Commision, stipulated only a 5 round fight. Due to the enormous danger of this type of match...........

[clevfan]

Jul. 06, 2008
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Griffin puts clamps on 'Rampage'

Challenger claims title in UFC 86

By ADAM HILL
REVIEW-JOURNAL

In a memorable outburst during Season 7 of "The Ultimate Fighter" reality show on which both were coaches, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson screamed at Forrest Griffin that they wouldn't need judges when they met in the octagon.

Jackson probably wishes that was the case.

Griffin became the new Ultimate Fighting Championship light heavyweight champion with a unanimous-decision victory over Jackson in the main event of UFC 86 at Mandalay Bay on Saturday night.

"I didn't want to leave it to the judges," Jackson said. "But, you know what, I didn't think Forrest could handle me. You've got to respect him.

"I think I won the fight."

The decision came as a surprise to many in what was a difficult fight to score.

Griffin dominated the second round. He landed a pair of brutal kicks to Jackson's legs and took the champion to the ground and then pounded him with elbows for 4:30. He won the round 10-8 on two of the three scorecards.

Griffin also had taken the first round on two of the three cards, though Jackson landed by far the biggest punch of the round, flooring Griffin with a huge right hand.

The third round went to Griffin on all three scorecards, though Jackson appeared to land the more damaging punches. All three judges gave the fourth round to Jackson.

Griffin then closed strong by winning the final round on two of the three cards to win the fight. He won 48-46 on two scorecards and 49-46 on the third to take the belt.

"I feel like if you're the champ, someone has to beat the champ," Jackson said. "But it was unanimous."

Griffin, who was receiving stitches after the fight, was unavailable for comment.

The fight was fast-paced and action-packed throughout, in direct contrast to the bout that immediately preceded it.

In that contest, Patrick Cote ground out a split-decision victory over Ricardo Almeida in a fight that featured little action. Cote was the more aggressive fighter as Almeida, a ground specialist, tried to get the fight on the mat at every opportunity.

Before the fight, the UFC announced that the winner of the bout would have a shot at the middleweight belt later in the year after Anderson Silva defends the title against Yushin Okami.

Josh Koscheck won another fight but still didn't win over the fans. The wrestling specialist won for the seventh time in his last eight fights, but the capacity crowd booed him as usual throughout his unanimous-decision victory over Chris Lytle.

"Come on," he pleaded as he stood in the octagon for his post-victory interview to the displeasure of most in attendance.

The crowd already was on Lytle's side when Koscheck opened a gaping cut above Lytle's eye with an elbow in the second that eventually covered both fighters in blood.

Lytle's ability to press on and even land a few damaging shots while not allowing Koscheck to finish got the crowd even more on his side.

Joe Stevenson was caught in a tough position for much of the first round but submitted Gleison Tibau with a guillotine in the second round.

Las Vegan Tyson Griffin won his fourth straight fight by earning a unanimous decision over Marcus Aurelio, but he continued a somewhat disturbing streak in the process.

It was the fifth fight in a row for Griffin that went the distance. He has lost just once in his career, but none of the first eight fights in his career had gone to the scorecards before the recent string.

"Marcus is a tough guy, and he's never been finished," Griffin said. "So I wanted to take my time and get the W."

On the undercard, Cole Miller and Gabriel Gonzaga earned submission wins at vastly different times in their fights.

Miller finished Jorge Gurgel with a triangle choke in the final minute of their fight, while Gonzaga locked in a kimura to finish Justin McCully less than two minutes into their bout.

Melvin Guillard scored a 36-second knockout over Dennis Siver.

Justin Buchholz took a great deal of punches from the inexperienced Corey Hill, but Buchholz survived long enough to lock in a rear-naked choke in the second round and score the submission.

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[Oddessa]

Adalaide Byrd who scored it 48-46, gave 4 and 5 to Jackson and Griffin 1, 2 and 3 with 2 as 10-8

Nelson Hamilton had it 48-46 with 1 and 4 for Jackson, and Griffin getting 2 10-8

Roy Silbert had it 49-46 with only round 4 for Jackson

[drunkguy]

picks 3-1 +160
opinions 2-3 -90


that koscheck fight was brutal. great main event

[buffbetonsports]

Chris Lytle is my next door neighbor's little bro.
They went out of town and I forgot the damn thing was on.
Sounds like he got beat up a little but a good fight for the fans.

[drunkguy]

oh, the mat was a complete puddle of blood


be glad you didn't watch it with the family

[WrongSideWarrior]

What did you guys have the Griffin/Quinton fight scored at?

I thought it was a travesty but nice to see Jay pick up a few bucks.

[littleogre]

Originally Posted by WrongSideWarrior

What did you guys have the Griffin/Quinton fight scored at?

I thought it was a travesty but nice to see Jay pick up a few bucks.

I had it forest by 1 point but only because of the 2 point round. The guy that had forest wining by 3 needs to never judge a mma fight again. In a 5 round fight thats saying rampage didn't do shit and just got his ass kicked all night and that is far from the case.

[drunkguy]

Originally Posted by WrongSideWarrior

What did you guys have the Griffin/Quinton fight scored at?

I had Griffin


of course I'm biased, but I saw Griffin win 3 solid rounds

[JCNovak]

I had it as a draw and thought it was complete bs. Griffin didn't do enough to take the belt, and to quote a friend of mine "they robbed the champ."

[littleogre]

Originally Posted by JCNovak

I had it as a draw and thought it was complete bs. Griffin didn't do enough to take the belt, and to quote a friend of mine "they robbed the champ."

thats the only problem i see what ever happened to the old adage you gotta win convincingly to take the belt ?

[drunkguy]

unfortunately it is scored on a round-by-round system so you have to look at each round independently

did forrest win 3 out of 5? I think so.

In any case, I don;t really think you can find any way to justify a decision to Rampage...if you wanna call it a draw, fine, but I definitely don;t think Rampage earned the win