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Old 05-24-2008, 09:30 AM
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And they are also dumb-dumbs who watched one too many Westerns and think they can shoot their way out when the FBI comes on knocking
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:37 AM
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KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Reuters) - A Missouri car dealer said on Thursday sales have soared at his auto and truck business since launching a promotion this week that promises buyers a free handgun or a $250 gas card with every purchase.

Max Motors, a small Butler, Missouri dealership that has as its logo a grimacing cowboy wielding a pistol, has sold more than 30 cars and trucks in the last three days, far more than its normal volume. And owner Mark Muller credits his decision to start offering buyers their choice of a $250 gas card or a $250 credit at a gun shop.

"This thing has taken off. Sales have quadrupled," said Muller. The store sells both used and new vehicles including General Motors and Ford products.

Every buyer so far "except one guy from Canada and one old guy" has elected to take the gun, Muller said. Muller recommends his customers select a Kel-Tec .380 pistol.

"It's a nice little handgun that fits in your pocket," he said.

Muller said the promotion was inspired by Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who is vying with Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic nominee for the presidential election in November.

"We did it because of Barack Obama. He said all those people in the Midwest, you've got to have compassion for them because they're clinging to their guns and their Bibles. I found that quite offensive."

"We all go to church on Sunday and we all carry guns," said Muller. "I've got a gun in my pocket right now. I have a rifle in my truck. We've got to shoot the coyotes out here, they're attacking our cows, our chickens. We're not clinging to nothing. We're just damn glad to live in a free country where you can have a gun if you want. This is the way it ought to be."
I'll give your rather simplistic question the simplistic answer it deserves. The people of the United States do not have a "fascination" with guns. I believe a solid majority of Americans believe in the private ownership of firearms because without the private ownership of firearms, the United States may never have existed or may not have earned its independence until a century (or more) than it did. When did Canada become completely independent from Great Britain? 1982 was it?

As to that person's article, one hopes he learned in law school that when Federal Courts grossly misinterpret the Constitution to serve their own political leanings, subsequent Courts can, will, and often have overturned such "precedent" in favor of a better, more reason interpretations that concur with the plain meaning of the Constitution. Under his view of precedent, Plessy v. Ferguson would still be in effect and blacks would be required to drink from "coloreds only" drinking fountains.

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Old 05-24-2008, 09:38 AM
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Right to Bear arms is one thing, but why in the fuck should someone in the US be able to walk into a store and buy one of these.

YouTube - Barrett M107 .50 Caliber sniper rifle
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:51 AM
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YouTube - My Wife -vs- the Desert Eagle .50

Not my wife , his............LMAO
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:53 AM
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the barret .50 caliber line is way to much gun for someone without military experience and in no way should it be sold to the untrained idiots that i've seen at the 2 gun shows i've been to in my life.
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:55 AM
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But its thier RIGHT to own one.....Give me a break
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Old 05-24-2008, 10:01 AM
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i fully agree with their right to own a gun, i own several myself and spent 8 yrs of my life defending those rights. i don't believe one should own such without some type of "formal" training, we don't allow folks to drive, do electrical work, practice medecine.....i just think it's prudent to require them to know exactly what they've got when purchasing one of these, if you miss that bullet doesn't stop 10 feet past the target........
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Old 05-24-2008, 10:22 AM
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If my English is still ok, I read the text:" the right to bear arms..." nothing about owning them?? The Army owns the weapons that the soldiers bear - so the well regulated militia owns the weapons that the members bear??? Or?
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Old 05-24-2008, 11:53 AM
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When did Canada become completely independent from Great Britain? 1982 was it?

We're still a colony of Britain technically although they have no say over what we do. But I don't understand the comment. The fact is that in the U.S. there are 7 homicides by gun per 100,000 population every year. In Canada, the UK, France, Australia, Germany, Norway etc. the amount is about 0.5 per 100,000. Plus in the other nations you rarely if ever hear of some kid shooting his baby sister after grabbing dad's gun from his drawer.
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:01 PM
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Hartley read or watch this story, it will make you sick and understand what kind of society we all live in within the U.S.!
abc13.com: Police find dead child inside motel freezer 5/23/08
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:03 PM
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Hey genius, I'm pretty sure your a successful gamlber, so I'm assuming you understand simple correlation.

If 7 people a year get murdered with a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in thier pocket, is it the sandwiches' fault?

NO?

But you're gonna allocate the responsibily in this set of data to gun ownership rights? Same logic guy.

LIsten, there are probably MORE guns owned than people in this state that I live in....and just about ZERO violent crime, and just about ZERO gun crime. Explain it. Please, explain it.

May I suggest you open your mind and read a book written by one of the most renowned econometricists in the world, Dr. John Lott....the book is called "more guns, less crime" IN a county by county study, his econometric model proves that if anything, the level of gun ownership is inversely correlated to violent crime.

Have you ever considered the amount of crime that is thwarted by an armed citizen?

YOu sound like you have your mind made up, and if so, I have no problem letting you flounder in mathematical ignorance.

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Old 05-24-2008, 12:05 PM
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Edmonton leads country in rate of shooting deaths

Wild West there Heh?
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:12 PM
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abc13.com: Suspect fatally shot by clerk during gas station robbery 5/23/08
Hartley, read or watch this one. Kudos to the middle eastern who works the gas station!
A example of self defense!
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:37 PM
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Now, this is really fucked up. This New Orleans thug killed his mother and grandmother for drug money!
Man allegedly confesses to murders of Spring mother, grandmother | TOP STORIES | KHOU.com | News for Houston, Texas
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:52 PM
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There were 15 gun deaths in Edmonton in 2006. Toronto had the most firearm-related deaths in 2006, at 34, with Montreal second at 25

Edmonton's population is just over a million, Toronto has about 4 million and Montreal is around 2.3 million.

So how would those figures compare with U.S. cities about the same size?

In any case we're getting totally off topic. I'm just trying to understand the logic of people going nuts to buy used cars just so they can get a free $250 certificate towards a gun out of the deal. If it was free gas for a year, free car insurance etc. I would be able to understand it more.
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:58 PM
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Hartley, its not getting off track, the people of the U.S. want to be able to defend themselves in case a scenario arises. Its very simple, its just like the gas station owner, people are tired of being bullied around by criminals. Law enforcement(hands are tied) and the court system is not doing anything about, so we have to take it into our own hands to defend ourselves.
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:01 PM
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:02 PM
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By the way, its not being paranoid, its reality. Just come and visit yourself. We have a lot more thugs than Canada! I promise you! I think it may be the hot weather or something!
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:02 PM
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In any case we're getting totally off topic. I'm just trying to understand the logic of people going nuts to buy used cars just so they can get a free $250 certificate towards a gun out of the deal.
Fucking Retarted if ya ask me. Why anyone in the States or the World for that matter, make these offers is beyond me....

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