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Old 04-30-2008, 05:08 AM
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Internet gambling ban architect frustrated with regulation delays

By TONY BATT
STEPHENS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON -- The chief architect of the Internet gambling ban on Tuesday said he is losing patience with the Federal Reserve and the Department of Treasury as they struggle to craft regulations to enforce the ban.

Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., said the regulations are a year overdue, according to the 2006 prohibition statute.

"The longer it goes the less certainty there is," said Kyl, who was the first lawmaker to launch an effort to ban Internet gambling in 1996.

"I mean, the people who are violating the law need to know that they're not going to be able the get away with it, and I think that the failure to get these regulations promulgated on time has perhaps given some hope, and it's given life even to an idea over in the House of Representatives to put a moratorium on the regulations," Kyl said.

Kyl was referring to a bill introduced April 11 by Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, and Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas.

The Frank-Paul bill would block the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department from completing regulations to enforce the ban.

The legislation followed a financial services subcommittee hearing April 2 in which Federal Reserve and Treasury Department officials said the regulations are difficult to complete, partly because the 2006 ban does not define unlawful Internet gambling.

Louise Roseman, director of bank operations and payment systems for the Federal Reserve, also testified that the prohibition of Internet gambling cannot be "ironclad."

Another bill, which Frank introduced last year, would repeal the Internet gambling ban and require the Treasury Department to regulate Internet gambling in the United States.

Despite his frustration with the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department, Kyl said he is not worried about efforts to block the regulations and roll back the online wagering ban.

"I would be concerned if something like that were to be adopted by the House ... I'm not sure that the momentum is there to actually get it done," Kyl said.

Jay Lakin, vice president of Poker Source Online and an opponent of the Internet gambling ban, said he reluctantly agrees.

"While many efforts have been made on behalf of overturning (the ban), so far it's just been bills and words on paper," Lakin said. "Nothing has moved forward. Until there's a change in Washington, I don't think we'll see much of a change."
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Ever notice when I put an article up for mw, several similar ones come out days after? I guess I'm kind of a pioneer :).
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we really, really need to get this guy out of office
You don't get another shot at him until '12, and though I suspect the climate will be unfavorable for his ilk at that point, he benefits from a marked head start, given the demographics of that state.

Best hope for our side at this point is the banking lobby, which is a significant force.
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Yup, several times now Hartley. I'd be proud.
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:44 AM
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we really, really need to get this guy out of office
.... and sterilize anyone who thinks like him

this guy and Frisky are a blight on the human race
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"I mean, the people who are violating the law need to know that they're not going to be able the get away with it, and I think that the failure to get these regulations promulgated on time has perhaps given some hope, and it's given life even to an idea over in the House of Representatives to put a moratorium on the regulations," Kyl said.

What "people" is he referring to? Since the UIEGA makes it illegal for FINANCIAL INSTUTIONS to process instruments related to gambling, I guess he means bankers. So bankers=criminals.
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What a punk Kyl is. He puts the burden on banks and regulators by passing this stupid law and then complains and pressures them when they can't enact and enforce it. Same thing is happening in Iraq - putting the military in a no-win situation then complaining about how we are losing. UIGEA cannot be enforced and Iraq cannot be won. What's next Kyl? Try to outlaw online debit cards and war with Iran?
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Wouldn't 10g be enough to make him magically disappear just like the DC madem. A DC mugging gone wrong or something. ;-)
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Whats really bad about this punk is people are dying in Iraq, food prices are out of control, we got a major housing issue and he's worried about pushing this bullshit still. Goes to show you how out of touch with reality some of these guys are.
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This scumbag is a typical second generation congressman who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. His daddy was a corrupt congressman from Iowa, and jonny boy lived the typical life of a modern day stooge. Law school, followed by a career in lobbying, then getting anointed into a house seat in 1987, then moving on to his current Senate seat. During his life , he really has not accomplished or created much of anything, other than to help his paymasters out,and assist the anti-freedom, anti-american zealots who unfortunately dominate his party, rising from the ranks of the "looney toones" that the moralistic and religious right used to be percieved by the now defucnt "Goldwater Republican" base.

Along with the infamous UIGEA act that he helped sneak through in the middle of the night like a rat, he also is trying to supress the Freedom of Information act, so that the public cannot have access to what it's own government is doing. He's also the louse who wants DNA testing to be mandatory for every citizen, and put in a database. Simply put, he believes that the federal government should have the authority to control your banking, income, and legislate your own personal choices to make you conform to his warped presbyterian ideology. However, he also believes that the Federal Government should not be subjected to any oversight by the citizenry. If he were in 1930's Germany, he most certainly would have been a proud SS Officer.

And like most politicians, his "moralities" are mostly a charade to help snow the public into supporting legislation that his former cronies in lobbying firms across the country, ask him ( or pay him) to help get through. A perfect example of this is the UIGEA, in where he rattles on about the evils and harms of gambling, yet carves out exemptions to allow online gambling on horse racing, lotteries, and fantasy sports leagues, which for some reason, is just fine and dandy. Perhaps the campaign contributions he took from the horse racing lobby, and the casino lobbies had something to do with this apparent moral enigma? Lets not forget how much casinos hate offshore gaming for 2 reasons, one, they can't compete with places that are actual bookmakers, not corparate dupes, and two, they want to have exclusivity when they are miraculously granted online exemptions in the future.

Perhaps, nothing sheds light on the darkness of this rat's soul, than his outward proclamation of sheer glee when legitimate, and legal gaming stocks went into a downward spiral free fall. Where thousands of hard working people all over the world, including many Americans, lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, had lifetime savings obliterated , and suffered hardships when their legitimate and legal mutual funds and pensions were destroyed due to the rampant roguish acts of the department of justice ( now a modern version of the Stasi), and the cowardly bill he snuck through, without most of congress even knowing the UIGEA was even in the bill.

We are in dangerous times, Kyl is a very powerful congressman, and the people who pull his strings, want your liberty, your money, your servitude, and even your soul. Of course, the reason these bozos got power in the first place was a counter to the socialists who began to dominate many fabrics of society, and are downright hated by anyone with an ounce of dignity. So now things are really bad. The extreme left and right will play there little game, and convince everyone that if your not on their team, your on the other team. And in the back rooms, they are counting the money together, while they sip on a glass of $500 champagne and are waiting on the whores from the escort service they just called.

It is our collective responsibilities, to step up and remove anti-american rats like Jon Kyl, and do it in a way, that future rats will think twice before ever invading the sacred liberties and freedoms that every citizen has an unalienable right to . That these rights of man are self-evident, and are not granted by man and his laws, and therefore, cannot be taken away by man and his laws.

Jon Kyl is a treasonous rat. And must be eliminated from his position of power.
He is a disgrace, and he is dangerous.

God bless America. God bless Liberty.
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This scumbag is a typical second generation congressman who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. His daddy was a corrupt congressman from Iowa, and jonny boy lived the typical life of a modern day stooge. Law school, followed by a career in lobbying, then getting anointed into a house seat in 1987, then moving on to his current Senate seat. During his life , he really has not accomplished or created much of anything, other than to help his paymasters out,and assist the anti-freedom, anti-american zealots who unfortunately dominate his party, rising from the ranks of the "looney toones" that the moralistic and religious right used to be percieved by the now defucnt "Goldwater Republican" base.

Along with the infamous UIGEA act that he helped sneak through in the middle of the night like a rat, he also is trying to supress the Freedom of Information act, so that the public cannot have access to what it's own government is doing. He's also the louse who wants DNA testing to be mandatory for every citizen, and put in a database. Simply put, he believes that the federal government should have the authority to control your banking, income, and legislate your own personal choices to make you conform to his warped presbyterian ideology. However, he also believes that the Federal Government should not be subjected to any oversight by the citizenry. If he were in 1930's Germany, he most certainly would have been a proud SS Officer.

And like most politicians, his "moralities" are mostly a charade to help snow the public into supporting legislation that his former cronies in lobbying firms across the country, ask him ( or pay him) to help get through. A perfect example of this is the UIGEA, in where he rattles on about the evils and harms of gambling, yet carves out exemptions to allow online gambling on horse racing, lotteries, and fantasy sports leagues, which for some reason, is just fine and dandy. Perhaps the campaign contributions he took from the horse racing lobby, and the casino lobbies had something to do with this apparent moral enigma? Lets not forget how much casinos hate offshore gaming for 2 reasons, one, they can't compete with places that are actual bookmakers, not corparate dupes, and two, they want to have exclusivity when they are miraculously granted online exemptions in the future.

Perhaps, nothing sheds light on the darkness of this rat's soul, than his outward proclamation of sheer glee when legitimate, and legal gaming stocks went into a downward spiral free fall. Where thousands of hard working people all over the world, including many Americans, lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, had lifetime savings obliterated , and suffered hardships when their legitimate and legal mutual funds and pensions were destroyed due to the rampant roguish acts of the department of justice ( now a modern version of the Stasi), and the cowardly bill he snuck through, without most of congress even knowing the UIGEA was even in the bill.

We are in dangerous times, Kyl is a very powerful congressman, and the people who pull his strings, want your liberty, your money, your servitude, and even your soul. Of course, the reason these bozos got power in the first place was a counter to the socialists who began to dominate many fabrics of society, and are downright hated by anyone with an ounce of dignity. So now things are really bad. The extreme left and right will play there little game, and convince everyone that if your not on their team, your on the other team. And in the back rooms, they are counting the money together, while they sip on a glass of $500 champagne and are waiting on the whores from the escort service they just called.

It is our collective responsibilities, to step up and remove anti-american rats like Jon Kyl, and do it in a way, that future rats will think twice before ever invading the sacred liberties and freedoms that every citizen has an unalienable right to . That these rights of man are self-evident, and are not granted by man and his laws, and therefore, cannot be taken away by man and his laws.

Jon Kyl is a treasonous rat. And must be eliminated from his position of power.
He is a disgrace, and he is dangerous.

God bless America. God bless Liberty.


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2. I am fired up.

3. Kyl Hitler.

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3. Kyl Hitler.
great play on words, Juice (forget what it's officially called?)

till the day i die i will never understand why scum-sucking pigs like Kyl thrive, and the good people who toil day in day out can't catch a break ...

(good post Indio)
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Last time I was in Phoenix there was a big picture of this asswipe on a billboard next to I10 on the way to the airport....I am driving along with a guy I work with and notice the picture. I had no choice, I had to flip him off....then spent the next hour and half on the flight home explaining to him what an asshole the guy is.
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This scumbag is a typical second generation congressman who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. His daddy was a corrupt congressman from Iowa, and jonny boy lived the typical life of a modern day stooge. Law school, followed by a career in lobbying, then getting anointed into a house seat in 1987, then moving on to his current Senate seat. During his life , he really has not accomplished or created much of anything, other than to help his paymasters out,and assist the anti-freedom, anti-american zealots who unfortunately dominate his party, rising from the ranks of the "looney toones" that the moralistic and religious right used to be percieved by the now defucnt "Goldwater Republican" base.

Along with the infamous UIGEA act that he helped sneak through in the middle of the night like a rat, he also is trying to supress the Freedom of Information act, so that the public cannot have access to what it's own government is doing. He's also the louse who wants DNA testing to be mandatory for every citizen, and put in a database. Simply put, he believes that the federal government should have the authority to control your banking, income, and legislate your own personal choices to make you conform to his warped presbyterian ideology. However, he also believes that the Federal Government should not be subjected to any oversight by the citizenry. If he were in 1930's Germany, he most certainly would have been a proud SS Officer.

And like most politicians, his "moralities" are mostly a charade to help snow the public into supporting legislation that his former cronies in lobbying firms across the country, ask him ( or pay him) to help get through. A perfect example of this is the UIGEA, in where he rattles on about the evils and harms of gambling, yet carves out exemptions to allow online gambling on horse racing, lotteries, and fantasy sports leagues, which for some reason, is just fine and dandy. Perhaps the campaign contributions he took from the horse racing lobby, and the casino lobbies had something to do with this apparent moral enigma? Lets not forget how much casinos hate offshore gaming for 2 reasons, one, they can't compete with places that are actual bookmakers, not corparate dupes, and two, they want to have exclusivity when they are miraculously granted online exemptions in the future.

Perhaps, nothing sheds light on the darkness of this rat's soul, than his outward proclamation of sheer glee when legitimate, and legal gaming stocks went into a downward spiral free fall. Where thousands of hard working people all over the world, including many Americans, lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, had lifetime savings obliterated , and suffered hardships when their legitimate and legal mutual funds and pensions were destroyed due to the rampant roguish acts of the department of justice ( now a modern version of the Stasi), and the cowardly bill he snuck through, without most of congress even knowing the UIGEA was even in the bill.

We are in dangerous times, Kyl is a very powerful congressman, and the people who pull his strings, want your liberty, your money, your servitude, and even your soul. Of course, the reason these bozos got power in the first place was a counter to the socialists who began to dominate many fabrics of society, and are downright hated by anyone with an ounce of dignity. So now things are really bad. The extreme left and right will play there little game, and convince everyone that if your not on their team, your on the other team. And in the back rooms, they are counting the money together, while they sip on a glass of $500 champagne and are waiting on the whores from the escort service they just called.

It is our collective responsibilities, to step up and remove anti-american rats like Jon Kyl, and do it in a way, that future rats will think twice before ever invading the sacred liberties and freedoms that every citizen has an unalienable right to . That these rights of man are self-evident, and are not granted by man and his laws, and therefore, cannot be taken away by man and his laws.

Jon Kyl is a treasonous rat. And must be eliminated from his position of power.
He is a disgrace, and he is dangerous.

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