FILL UP TODAY:

[teazeman]

i wished i had the same ability to pick games as i do the with the price of gas, that or i was wrong on gas as much as i am on the games.LOL

[StarnetGypsy]

Originally Posted by stevo

So much for that dime off a gallon i get from safeway. I shop everyday and had a ton of reciepts.

So back to what I was payng in first place.......LOL

hey Stevo, you sure you doin it right?

I went today and bought 30/gals for $45. Got $2 off each gallon, so i was clockin in at $1.49/gal (pre-war price).

Here's what it says ...

You have accumalted 20
PowerPump 10 cent/gal fuel
discount. Redeem by 31MAR08

so what that means is you multiply the 10cent times the 20/points you have accumulated, or $2/gal discount. and you can use it up to 30/gals then it turns off on auto.

Is that how you're understanding it kimosabe?

[Uncle B]

I'm headed out in a few to bring home the Blazer that just had a complete engine rehaul, and fuel system replacement....Dude said i need to fill it up asap, for some reason...I'm almost afraid to find out how much that shits gonna cost..

I know the last time i filled it up, maybe 2 years ago, it was about $70.00....So, i'd imagine it will be at least $100 this time out.


Why in the Hell couldn't some assclown just steal the friggin thing...

[Minnow]

Steve, you have a customer card? I lost my card a long time ago but when they are tallying my bill I just punch in my phone number to get "member only" grocery discounts, plus credit towards my gasoline power points that shows on the receipt. Redeeming at their pump is a bit confusing. I could hear the lady in the booth repeating instructions over the loudspeaker to other dimwits besides me.. there is a certain order to the process.

[Minnow]

B, I know what you mean.. I felt the same way about my gas guzzling Bronco that I bought not knowing that 30 or 40 parts were "about to go".

[stevo]

Originally Posted by StarnetGypsy

hey Stevo, you sure you doin it right?

I went today and bought 30/gals for $45. Got $2 off each gallon, so i was clockin in at $1.49/gal (pre-war price).

Here's what it says ...

You have accumalted 20
PowerPump 10 cent/gal fuel
discount. Redeem by 31MAR08

so what that means is you multiply the 10cent times the 20/points you have accumulated, or $2/gal discount. and you can use it up to 30/gals then it turns off on auto.

Is that how you're understanding it kimosabe?

Gyps. I give them all to my mother in law and you can bet she found out how to maximize savings. She is sharp when it comes to saving on stuff and she shops at safeway too so knows the rules since she has done it. But I go to safeway everyday so I'm sure I got the points on there. I'll ask her.

[Uncle B]

Originally Posted by Minnow

B, I know what you mean.. I felt the same way about my gas guzzling Bronco that I bought not knowing that 30 or 40 parts were "about to go".

well, i'm assuming the gauge is broken too, cause, it said empty, but, only took $36.00 to fill it up, so, something ain't right..lol



what really, really, really sucks is, some nutfuk stole the only car i ever did really like, and trashed it....had no theft insurance.

this piece of shit blazer is fully covered, and even has a higher blue book value, yet, here it sits, just pissin me off by being here still.



actually, i doubt i'll ever find another car i actually like...uibless i happen to stumble onto another Aurora someone wants to get rid of....that ain't likely.

[Minnow]

Unc, too bad you didn't have the prsence of mind to grab the window bustin' prowler and tell him "take the frikkin' Blazer NOW or I shoot!" lol

[Uncle B]

Originally Posted by Minnow

Unc, too bad you didn't have the prsence of mind to grab the window bustin' prowler and tell him "take the frikkin' Blazer NOW or I shoot!" lol

lol



hindsights a beyatch.

[stevo]

Originally Posted by Minnow

Steve, you have a customer card? I lost my card a long time ago but when they are tallying my bill I just punch in my phone number to get "member only" grocery discounts, plus credit towards my gasoline power points that shows on the receipt. Redeeming at their pump is a bit confusing. I could hear the lady in the booth repeating instructions over the loudspeaker to other dimwits besides me.. there is a certain order to the process.

Unbelieveably I do still have my card. But i know you can use phone # too.

I'm going to ask Mom if she has any problems. She knows our home phone # so doesnt need the card I dont think.

[Uncle B]

wierd shit i noticed recently here.


i can go to one area of town and find gas at one price for regular unleaded, then, go 10 miles north or south, and see prices vary as much as 10 or even 15¢ more or less..

when i picked up the blazer last week, the Shell station i filled up at, was $3.28.....Then about 14 miles away, at the Hess station down the street from my house, it was $3.19..


It's always been a few ¢ difference here and there, but, never noticed such varying prices as i have the last few days.


Hell, maybe i've just never noticed till now, because it's costing so damned much now, but, couldn't help but find it odd.








This is the sort of shit io dwell on when i'm sober...

[teazeman]

hang on sports fans........................................you will not like the comings weeks and months.


i think i'm going to buy a donkey.

[nino brown]

just wait until this becomes reality:



Siezing Water:The Water Restoration Act of 2007


Category: Body,Health & Mind, Breaking News, Environment, Media Coverage, Water Quality, World News |


The Water Restoration Act of 2007, along with others, gives the federal government complete control over every waterway, river, stream, lake, aquifer, creek, slew, swamp, underground spring and even the rain that runs off your roof. Why? Well to better protect you from polluters and to ensure water safety, and of course “national security”.

Here’s the real deal. Oil which has been deemed the worlds most valuable commodity (remember that word) is quickly being replaced by water. Water is the new “gold”. Under the Public Trust doctrine, the government is prohibited from converting something such as water (a human right…we can’t live without it) to a commodity. It must remain in a public trust, meaning that it is so important to our survival that it should never be subjected to markets, trading or private interests. In other words, it should never be reclassified as a commodity. But this Act lays the groundwork for removing from the Public Trust this basic human right which is a necessity, and will facilitate it being reclassified a “needed commodity”. Enter the multi-national corporations.

What is under way is the effort to classify water as a commodity and not a right. All of this actually started with NAFTA and then CAFTA. Both agreements, which are not enforceable as they are both unconstitutional have been parts of a puzzle that until recently seemed not to make any sense at all. Both are focused on giving multinational corporations the right to lay claim to food production whether it is agriculture or animal ranching, to force out family farms, to patent their new “frankenseeds” and put the resulting GMO food on our grocery shelves without labeling the foods as altered.

The corporations can now sue the government (and have) if it acts in any way to prevent it from making profits it believes it is entitled to. This ability to sue for impaired profit making can be the result of environmental regulations, of Federal laws which may prevent the corporations from hiring illegal workers, or issues of eminent domain in which an individuals’ land stands in the way of corporate profiteering and the courts have not acted to protect the interests of the corporation. The corporation then claims “trade illegal” provisions of NAFTA and CAFTA and our federal laws and regulations are put aside, along with property rights.

All that was left to capture from the public was the water supply. CAFTA goes a long way in establishing the privatization of water supplies, including in-land navigated waters and the right to use and access the water supplies.

If the federal government is not able to gain total control of all water from whatever source, it is highly unlikely that water can be taken from the status of Public Trust and moved to one of a commodity, which is exactly what the Water Restoration Act of 2007 will enable.

If CAFTA protections and provisions for corporations and the provisions within CAFTA that put the rights of investors above those of the individual, or human rights, cannot come into play, it will be nearly impossible to expose our water supply to global markets. CAFTA’s primary aim is to protect and promote investors regardless of the cost to individuals or communities.

Water is not only a basic human right, but also a natural resource. Inland states like Minnesota have Public Trust Laws (in addition to federal doctrine) which maintain the use of waterways for drinking and for recreation purposes. Every lake here has public water access due to the Public Trust which everyone contributes to in one way or another. No one can claim land at the bottom of a lake……its commonly held. No one can claim private ownership of lake fish stocks, or other natural resources resulting from the lake’s existence. This applies to rivers also, including the Mississippi which runs through the state.

The Water Restoration Act of 2007 would federalize all inland and coastal waters from any source. This act is needed to set the stage for the privatization guaranteed to corporations under CAFTA and would effectively convert the entire water supply from any source into a commodity.

As it is, any corporate agriculture business operating in any area is allowed to bypass water treatment plants, sewage treatment and the associated costs and to tap directly into underground aquifers even at the cost of depleting the water supply to the surrounding communities. GMO seeds, especially “traitor” seeds require as much as three times the normal amount of water to activate and to grow, but any efforts to limit use or regulate disposal even by monetary assessment have been unsuccessful. The corporate rights now exceed that of the individual or community. CAFTA clearly states repeatedly that “investor protections” must be a priority.

Using the NAFTA provisions, along with even more detrimental CAFTA provisions, the World Bank along with the United Nations are active in the effort to convert the worlds’ water supply into a commodity to be controlled by private investors via global trade and investment agreements. If these efforts are successful, water will no longer be a community or individual right and resource necessary to maintain life, but a globally traded commodity subject to markets and your ability to pay.

The World Trade organization in collusion with provisions of NAFTA, have been instrumental in converting water into a tradable commodity and as such subject to international trade policies which favor no one but the giant corporations. In each instance of corporations attempting to overturn domestic environmental laws or regulations, the laws have been rendered null using the “trade illegal” provisions of both NAFTA and CAFTA which declare that the right of the corporation cannot be superseded or infringed upon by laws or regulations that hinder the amount of profit they estimate can be attained.

The World Bank already has established a system whereby credit or loans will not be issued to Third World countries and even less stressed countries, unless they agree to allow foreign investors access to privatize the water supply. In Bolivia this resulted in mass demonstrations that finally forced out a subsidiary of Bechtel that had privatized the water supply, increased costs three-fold minimally, dispensed with upkeep and left ¼ of the rural homes without access to water.

England has privatized their water system and costs rose 45% overnight, all but skeleton crews remained of the maintenance sector and the quality of water has dropped significantly.

In one Canadian town several people became ill and one died from an ecoli contamination in the water supply. This occurred after the supply had been privatized, and the owner of the water supply knew of the contamination. The public was never notified until after people became ill.

In March of 2000 at the Hague, a meeting occurred where water executives stated that as long as water was coming out of the tap the public had no right to any information as to how it got there….. Or its quality.

Here in the States, private investors have in some places succeeded in taking over community water supplies, in other places the communities have fought back against the sale of publicly held supplies realizing that this most important element of human survival should never be under the control of private corporations whose one and only duty is to make a profit for investors.

As water has historically been deemed a human right and necessity, so much so that the Public Trust Doctrine was put on paper, how could anyone in good conscience believe water is, or promote water as, a tradable commodity? How can there be so many callous and greedy individuals running around out there who would willingly see another human thirst to death just so they can make a buck? Apparently there are many.

The Water Restoration Act 2007 relies heavily on promotion based on protecting the water supply from pollution, from terrorists, and of course “national security”. The truth is it has nothing to do with any of these things. The WRA will allow unfettered pollution with no recourse for communities or individuals and “trade illegal” treatment of local and state laws. Before the entire water supply can be sold off to private interests the federal government must gain control of the entire water system. This is what the WRA will do.

This Act would be more aptly titled “The Water Confiscation Act” as this is exactly what is intended. All it is set to do is to strike down the Public Trust Doctrine and facilitate the conversion of water from a basic human right into a commodity. The only threat to “national security” here is from the government and the massive corporations who are behind it.

I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by any of this. After all, the Security & Prosperity Partnership refers to people as “human capital”. I wonder how long it will be before they refer to us as a “needed commodity” and trade and sell us on the global market.

Control the food, control the water and you control the people. I believe it was Henry Kissinger who first made this observation when speaking about the importance of depopulation through the use of eugenics. Obviously good old Henry realized that overtaking the food and water supplies would go a long way in deciding who had a right to life.

[Uncle B]

Under the Public Trust doctrine, the government is prohibited from converting something such as water (a human right…we can’t live without it) to a commodity. It must remain in a public trust, meaning that it is so important to our survival that it should never be subjected to markets, trading or private interests. In other words, it should never be reclassified as a commodity.

i pay a monthly 'water bill'....if i don't, i'm pretty sure they would cut my water off.


doesn't that make it a commodity?

[Uncle B]

Gas prices here seem to have dropped a bit the last few days, finally..


Wife just said the Gate down the street was $3.62 a gallon for regular unleaded....pretty sure it was close to $4.00 not too long ago.

[teazeman]

don't worry unc, it won't last.LOL actually oil down a tad today, i'll let you know if we see some large upturn in the coming week.

[Uncle B]

Originally Posted by teazeman

don't worry unc, it won't last.LOL actually oil down a tad today, i'll let you know if we see some large upturn in the coming week.

Well, i filled up both cars....Mine will last months, so, hopefully it will be on the downswing again when my time comes...lol

[teazeman]

Energy Commodities at 11:34 AM CST
Contract Last Trade Change Bid Ask TR Time Volume

June 2008 CRUDE OIL R NYMEX (Chart) 129.43 +2.38 11:00:00 AM 213089
June 2008 CRUDE OIL E NYMEX (Chart) 129.51 +2.46 129.49 129.53 11:04:04 AM 29195



get ready.......this will hit at the pumps in the next few days. should be in the 7-15 cents per gallon range increase.

[Bostongambler]

This whole ecconomy will come crashing down if it gets much higher.