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Old 10-02-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default REP. RON PAUL is +1150 @ WSEX to win REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE

Might be a good idea to short this on WSEX IMHO seeing as if he ever won the nomination and had the chance to become president our currency would probably become worthless as we would either have a civil war or be forced into the bartering system

Guy is absolutely tapped

Wants to eliminated the FBI/CIA/IRS and pretty much all federal agencies, remove all troops from foreign countries and instead establish a secure perimeter around the US, he wants to get rid of the income tax and social security program, he wants to legalize narcotics and downsize the police force, and this is all in his first 4 years!

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Old 10-02-2007, 07:24 PM
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Plus he is real short.
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:25 PM
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Wants to eliminated the FBI/CIA/IRS and pretty much all federal agencies, remove all troops from foreign countries and instead establish a secure perimeter around the US, he wants to get rid of the income tax and social security program, he wants to legalize narcotics and downsize the police force, and this is all in his first 4 years!



sounds good to me
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:40 PM
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I'd go for about half of it no questions asked, and would happily negotiate on the other half. Anything to get away from the one-party system.
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:44 PM
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Ron Paul is actually a Libertarian. He registered Republican because he knew he wouldn't get any face time as a Libertarian. He's right, of course. Raise your hand if you've ever heard of Harry Brown.

None or practically none of what Paul advocates would actually get done. It takes a long time to turn an oceanliner around.

Ron Paul's fiscal issues are essentially correct. Whether it takes 5 years or 50 years, they will come to pass. Fiat currency and inflation will not bankrupt the country, but it will bankrupt every citizen. I used to think that was terrible, now I think it might not be so bad. It sure as hell would create sweeping changes.

I'm going to waste my vote on Ron Paul. I've been wasting my vote for the last 20 or so years now.
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:54 PM
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Ron Paul 2008 — Hope for America

Never made a political contribution in my life till this year....he probably has a snowballs chance in hell of getting the GOP nomination but might get enough momentum to be viable third party candidate.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:36 PM
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Bring him on!! He is the only candidate that is not a crook or a kook.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:46 PM
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Bring him on!! He is the only candidate that is not a crook or a kook.
McCain...
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:50 PM
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supposedly raised a million in campaign cash this weekend

was shooting for a half a mil and blew right by it
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:10 PM
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Might be a good idea to short this on WSEX IMHO seeing as if he ever won the nomination and had the chance to become president our currency would probably become worthless as we would either have a civil war or be forced into the bartering system

Yeah Because George W has been such a Godsend to the U.S.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:29 PM
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+1150 is the ultimate sucker's line. It's only that low to get people to think he actually has a chance of contending (let alone winning). Anyone considering betting on Paul to win should seriously consider donating the money charity instead.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:31 PM
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Unfortunately Mike you're correct. The only real candidates right now are Clinton, Obama, Giuliani, Romney and Thompson
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:52 PM
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+1150 is the ultimate sucker's line. It's only that low to get people to think he actually has a chance of contending (let alone winning). Anyone considering betting on Paul to win should seriously consider donating the money charity instead.
Pretty hard to call anything a sucker line when 2-way action is being offered on it

since WSEX lets you sell the other side, I guess you will be dumping your life savings against him?

FYI WSEX markets are pretty close to the Iowa Electronic Exchange, widely thought to be the most accurate predictor of election results. Iowa does not list Paul explicitly, but the "field" (not Giuliani, Romney, McCain, or Thompson) is given about a 8-9% chance of winning this nomination, and Paul has to clearly be considered the favorite among them
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:29 PM
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Pretty hard to call anything a sucker line when 2-way action is being offered on it

since WSEX lets you sell the other side, I guess you will be dumping your life savings against him?

FYI WSEX markets are pretty close to the Iowa Electronic Exchange, widely thought to be the most accurate predictor of election results. Iowa does not list Paul explicitly, but the "field" (not Giuliani, Romney, McCain, or Thompson) is given about a 8-9% chance of winning this nomination, and Paul has to clearly be considered the favorite among them
If you don't agree it's a sucker's line then I suggest you dump YOUR life savings on Paul. You'll always have welfare to fall back on.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:56 PM
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Ron Paul is opposed to the unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA)
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:54 PM
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Unfortunately Mike you're correct. The only real candidates right now are Clinton, Obama, Giuliani, Romney and Thompson

Very true...................................and totally insane.

These are my choices? In a free society???????????

If elections in this country were real Paul would have a legit shot, so many people are sick and tired of being sick and tired of the government.
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Old 10-03-2007, 02:13 PM
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If you don't agree it's a sucker's line then I suggest you dump YOUR life savings on Paul. You'll always have welfare to fall back on.
are you retarded? Or have you just been sniffing glue this morning?


if i am making the argument that it is a fair line than why the hell would i want to bet on it period?

and no I'm not on welfare but thanks anyway
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:48 PM
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My point was not a political one just a statement than Paul is more than a 8-1 shot; more like 80-1 IMHO
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Old 10-03-2007, 06:30 PM
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Might be a good idea to short this on WSEX IMHO seeing as if he ever won the nomination and had the chance to become president our currency would probably become worthless as we would either have a civil war or be forced into the bartering system

Guy is absolutely tapped

Wants to eliminated the FBI/CIA/IRS and pretty much all federal agencies, remove all troops from foreign countries and instead establish a secure perimeter around the US, he wants to get rid of the income tax and social security program, he wants to legalize narcotics and downsize the police force, and this is all in his first 4 years!

Ron Paul is a great American. A Politician who actually understands that the intention of our founding fathers was a very limited government, and since our founders knew that it is governments natural tendency to grow more powerful and therefore become intrusive and eventually tyrannical, they created checks and balances so that no one could ever have too much power, and one of the ways they did this was by protecting the citizenry with the Constitution and the Judicial branch. Ron Paul understands this and looks to protect liberty. The mere fact that you find eliminating the FBI,IRS,and removing foreign troops "wacko" is alarming, since it has been less then 100 years since some of these agencies even existed.

FBI- this agency is less then 100 years old. It was a very small and quite insignificant agency who grew during the administration of traitor Woodrow Wilson. Wilson used them to "spy" and get information on anti-war anarchists in WWI. ( Wilson vowed to keep us out of war, sound familiar?). Even then, the Bureau agents were not even allowed to carry firearms. It was not until the John Dillenger case that newly appointed J. Edgar Hoover recieved new and broad powers that were granted to him by the biggest scoundrel who ever was a U.S. President, Franklin Roosevelt. This included them, for the first time, being allowed to carry and use firearms. In 1933, Roosevelt granted unprecedented powers to the FBI which practically gave them unlimited jurisdiction. Since Roosevelt federalized ( illegally mind you) just about everything, the FBI and Hoover now had jurisdiction to do just about anything they wanted, including survelliance . This grew into what they are today, a HUGE agency that is a national disgrace. This agency was never supposed to become this and Ron Paul wants to eliminate them because he understands that the Founders of this great nation tried to prevent such a thing from occuring.


IRS- This was created in 1862 in the Lincoln administration. A very small agency in the Treasury Dept., the IRS had very little power and did just minimal collecting. There was no income tax at this time, and the first time an income tax was attempted, it was ruled Unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. This 1895 ruling almost ended the IRS. It was in 1913, when american traitor Woodrow Wilson fraudulently passed the 16th ammendment to the constitution that authorized federal income tax. Interesting to note than in this same year, the Federal Reserve Act was passed, giving control of our money to foreign bankers and no longer holding money to the gold standard. Ron Paul also correctly wants to return us to the Gold Standard, which would finally take the power away from the foreign bankers such as the Rotschilds, who were Wilsons masters. Even with their new power, it was not until Franklin Roosevelt that the IRS became the gestapo type rouge police force that they are. The IRS is an agency that until some recent corraling ( brought upon by courageaous Rep. James Trafficant) had to answer to no one, you were guilty until proven innocent, and even then you were'nt always off the hook.

God bless any politician who wants to eliminate the IRS, as they are what our founding fathers feared, a tyrannical authorized group of thugs that can steal your earnings, freeze your bank accounts, seize your house, your car, and everything you own, and they can do it just about anytime they feel like it, and they are given practically the freedom to do it unchecked. Thankfully, there have been some restrictions put in place to put a very small collar on this big rabid dog.

As far as removing troops from foreign soil, that seems the right thing to do. In fact, our founders were very explicit that America must stay out of foreign conflicts between other nations. We started our foreign occupations by having troops in the Phillipines and Cuba after defeating Spain in the Spanish American War. And since 1900, we have gone from having a handfull of troops in a few nations, to having hundreds of thousand, stationed in half the countries of the world.

You forgot that Paul wants to dissolve the United Nations. Another disgraceful attempt at one world government, first attempted by traitor Wilson who failed with his League of Nations, and then implemented by traitor Roosevelt when the UN became official in 1945. The UN is a disgrace, and should be dissolved too.

But one major thing you forget, is that Ron Paul is a strict follower of the Constitution, and the Constitution does not give the Executive branch the power to legislate, therefore, someone in congress must offer bills, that first must pass both houses of congress, before he could actually sign anything into law.
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