Go Back   MajorWager Forums > MW - Online Sportsbooks > Mess Hall
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Mess Hall Online Sportsbook Discussion

LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-30-2007, 06:52 PM
stevo stevo is offline
Five Star General
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 64,615
Default Umps didn't get weather updates

Umps didn't get weather updates
MacPhail admits club bears some responsibility for Thursday's series finale vs. Yankees
By Jeff Zrebiec
Sun Reporter
Originally published June 30, 2007
Did the Orioles lose their opportunity to sweep the hated New York Yankees because of a communications breakdown in the stadium operations department?

Several sources confirmed yesterday that a failure to relay timely weather information might have contributed to the circumstances that enabled the Yankees to stay on the field long enough to take the lead before Thursday night's game was suspended with the Orioles trailing 8-6.

Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail acknowledged yesterday that the club bears some responsibility for a potential rain-shortened victory over the Yankees turning into a suspended game, though he declined to offer specifics.

However, three baseball sources confirmed that a Major League Baseball official yesterday contacted Roger Hayden, the Orioles' director of ballpark operations, about how Thursday's rain delays were handled.

"I think there were areas on all sides of what happened [Thursday] night that could stand some improvement, but at the same time, we were behind in the game because they scored more runs than we did," said MacPhail, who also said that the club will not file a complaint with the league because it was a judgment decision by the umpires.

The Orioles trailed the Yankees 8-6 when crew chief Tim Tschida called for the tarp to be put on the infield at Camden Yards for the second time. The umpiring crew then waited 1 hour, 25 minutes before suspending the game. The game will resume where it was stopped - with two outs in the top of the eighth and with Derek Jeter on second - on July 27 before the regularly scheduled game between the Yankees and Orioles.

The ending left a bitter taste with the Orioles, who felt that the game should never have resumed after the first delay, which came in the middle of the Orioles' four-run seventh and lasted 19 minutes.

Tschida, reached last night in Cincinnati, said stadium officials did not keep him up to date on the weather conditions, an assertion that was denied by one Orioles official, who said that he is confident that the club "followed proper protocol."

According to team sources, the responsibility for that would primarily fall on Hayden, who deflected questions last night to director of communications Gregory Bader. Bader said MacPhail's comments would be all the club had to say on the subject.

"The first weather report at the start of the game, we were cleared for about three hours. That was good news," Tschida said. "I told them if it starts to rain, I need somebody to come and tell me. When the first rain came, I looked around and there was nobody looking for me. Nobody came, but the ground crew came out and positioned itself around the tarp. The first stoppage ended up being a short stoppage."

When play resumed, Brandon Fahey made the last out of the seventh, and then the Yankees scored four runs in the top of the eighth to take the lead. Jeter drove in the last two by singling through a rainstorm against closer Chris Ray. "I had no information," Tschida said. "We went back out there. Again, I need someone to come and tell me what was going on. I was reluctant to pull everyone off the field again if it was going to be like the first one."

The Orioles were irate that Tschida and the umpiring crew let the game get to the point where there was standing water on the infield. Ray said that he couldn't grip the baseball, and several Orioles infielders said that they couldn't even see the ball as it crossed home plate. That included third baseman Melvin Mora, who protested the decision and was ejected after a verbal confrontation with Tschida.

After the game, Mora questioned Tschida, saying: "He just tried to make Jeter hit so they can score one run and they can get out of here. That's what I think."

A Major League Baseball spokesman said there were no plans to discipline Mora, who reiterated the comments before last night's game. When told that accusing Tschida of favoring the Yankees could result in a fine, Mora said, "I don't give a damn."

"Maybe, [the umpires] were frustrated. I don't know," said Mora, who alleged that Tschida showered him with expletives, an accusation the umpire denied. "I get [ticked] when people ask me a question about whether a player is going to get fined. Why not fine the umpire? I don't want to be in that position, but he told me nasty stuff.

"He just said, '[Expletive] you, go to third base," Mora continued. "I said, 'Why would you curse at me? I just asked you a question.' And he said, '[Expletive] go back there.' They try to do their job and I try to do mine, but he disrespected me."

Interim manager Dave Trembley acknowledged after Thursday's game that the umpire crew relayed to them that they didn't know "the second band of rain was coming. I don't think they would have resumed play to begin with."

A team official, who requested anonymity, disputed the assertion, saying that the umpires had access to radar that detects weather patterns and they also were equipped with a walkie-talkie that allowed them to communicate with team officials.

Trembley hopes the situation has been resolved.

"I think it is a little clearer to me today than it was last night," he said. "I believe that the areas of communication will improve if we run into a situation like we did last night. I'm not going to point the fingers at anybody. We didn't pitch very well there in the eighth inning. I could have done a couple things a little bit differently. It's unfortunate we all got into a situation that we got into."
Sun reporter Peter Schmuck contributed to this article.

Umps didn't get weather updates -
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Weather info/umps/ looking for 2 out of 3 in baseball totals indio Mess Hall 0 04-22-2007 12:58 PM
Ballpark Weather updates from Don Best for 9/5 stevo Mess Hall 4 09-05-2006 09:55 PM
East Coast Weather Updates? MudinyourEye Mess Hall 0 10-25-2005 04:31 PM
Anyone Who Has Legit Updates On Weather In NY & PHI? jackyl Mess Hall 8 06-18-2004 01:38 AM
steam/injury updates/weather updates/line movement nehpets Mess Hall 8 12-28-2003 02:32 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:45 AM.

Please be advised that if you are wagering over the internet, this is illegal in many jurisdictions. A wagering site may be operating legally at their location but it may still be illegal for you to wager from your location. We suggest you check on the legal situation from any jurisdiction in which you may wager.

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6