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Old 06-06-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Michelle Wie Needs To Go Away

This special treatment she keeps getting is getting ridiculous, and it's getting to the point that she's going to alienate herself from just about every woman golfer out there. She's a bitch and a half and it almost appears that she wants everybody in the world to know it.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:10 PM
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Oops, I inadvertently enabled my auto refresh every 5s. sorry
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:13 PM
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She's still a kid for all practical purposes and a female to boot. I chaulk it up to pressure and puberty. She will even out in a couple years.

BTW, stop picking on teenagers, there are a ton of grown men and women that act way worse than her
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:40 PM
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She's still a kid for all practical purposes and a female to boot. I chaulk it up to pressure and puberty. She will even out in a couple years.

BTW, stop picking on teenagers, there are a ton of grown men and women that act way worse than her
her parents have a lot to do with it
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:17 PM
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She's still a kid for all practical purposes and a female to boot. I chaulk it up to pressure and puberty. She will even out in a couple years.

BTW, stop picking on teenagers, there are a ton of grown men and women that act way worse than her
Bullshit. You wanna make the big bucks and play with the big girls-or boys-you gotta be able to take the good with the bad. Besides, of that "ton" of
grown men and women that act way worse than her, not many of them got 20 million for doing absolutely nothing, have an arrogant manager/father/leech, and have broken, or at least bent, the rules when it suits their purposes...

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Old 06-06-2007, 03:06 PM
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Blame her Dad then not her. Obviously she isn't a prodigy by her own making. Kids will be kids no matter how much they got in the bank.
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:48 PM
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Untrue she walks around the LPGA tour lkike she is better than anyone else


Best part is Morgan Pressel kicked her ass in amateurs and owns a major before that great Michelle Wie

Paul Creamer is a better player than Wie, and pleae don't give me she is only 17


Steffi Graf was 14 when she won a Olympic Gold Medal, and Graf by 17 accomplished more than Wie will probably ever achieve in her career, and her dad was no bargain at all
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:17 PM
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When everyone around is telling you how great you are, it's easy for a teenager to go around the bend. Being nuts and golf, do not mesh well. Morgan is a better person and a player, and probably will always be that way.

Michelle is crazy for going to Stanford. She will never finish anyway. Just like Tiger. What a waste of time.

It's been my experience with Orientals, that the father drives for goals and the mother drives for the money. I don't know why, it's just that way. Wei's mom is getting a free pass and I call bullshit on that.

I'm curious to see how long it takes to get her game back. I bet it's going to be a long time if ever. Michelle might just be the poster child for doing everything wrong. Shame on her, her parents, her agent, coaches, and Nike. They all should have listened to her caddy.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:41 PM
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I'm curious to see how long it takes to get her game back. I bet it's going to be a long time if ever. Michelle might just be the poster child for doing everything wrong. Shame on her, her parents, her agent, coaches, and Nike. They all should have listened to her caddy.
the jennifer capriatti of golf???
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:55 PM
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Hall of Fame golfer Annika Sorenstam on Tuesday pointedly criticized the manner in which Michelle Wie withdrew from an LPGA tournament in South Carolina last week.

But Wie, scheduled to play here Thursday in the LPGA Championship at Bulle Rock, later defended her actions and said, "I don't think I need to apologize for anything." After 16 holes in her first round this past Thursday at the Ginn Tribute, hosted by Sorenstam in Mount Pleasant, S.C., Wie withdrew, citing an injury to the left wrist she said she had initially fractured in February while falling during a workout.

A 17-year-old native of Hawaii who recently graduated from high school, Wie is a professional but not a member of the LPGA and was playing the Ginn event on a sponsor's exemption. Competing in her first tournament since the injury, Wie was 14 shots over par and in jeopardy of shooting a score of 88 or higher at the time she withdrew.

LPGA rules specify that any non-LPGA member who posts 88 or worse in a tournament round is barred from playing in another LPGA event for the remainder of that season. "I just feel there's a little bit of lack of respect and class just to leave a tournament like that and then come out and practice here, especially being the hostess," Sorenstam said.


that shit is pretty weak.
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:43 PM
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Sorrenstam was open to speaking with her but she declined probable based on the advise of her folks.

If you can play 16 I would say finish the last 2.

Hard to know what the folks are feeding the young lady.
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:44 PM
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that shit is pretty weak.
Oh, it just keeps gettin' better and better. Oh, boo, hoo, my wrist hurts, it's not that I'm getting near being banned for a year or anything, and then two seconds later she's practising and entering another tournament? And doesn't fell that she has anything to apologize for?!?! Whatta twat!

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Old 06-06-2007, 07:57 PM
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I probably shouldnt bother as the hysterics in this thread remind me of the torch bearers going after Frankenstein.

Tennis and golf comparisons are completely irrelevent

I will take Wie's future over Pressel- heck even her present but not about that

PGA pros withdraw all the time and never get this scrutiny. I am not defending it. Just saying it happens ever single week on tour. EVERY WEEK but no one says anything. NEVER

The rule about the 88 is a stupid one.

Mickelson quit last week and if he played this week no one would have raised an eyebrow. NO ONE

She has been injured this year so no comment on her play other than she should focus on the LPGA.

She is still in high school, will continue learning how to play and act. She has room to grow on both. I know everyone here at MW was a perfect human being as a teenager and spare me the nonsense that because she has money that means she isnt a teenager. Thats just being stupid. Pressel acts like an idiot all the time and she will grow too.
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Old 06-06-2007, 09:38 PM
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agree aly. fuk the 88 rule. even if she finished over 88, how the fuk you gonna go and slap a ban on someone that you gave a special invitation to??? that would be funny. im sure girls fake injuries all the time when they got it goin really bad.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:56 PM
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I probably shouldnt bother as the hysterics in this thread remind me of the torch bearers going after Frankenstein.

Tennis and golf comparisons are completely irrelevent

I will take Wie's future over Pressel- heck even her present but not about that

PGA pros withdraw all the time and never get this scrutiny. I am not defending it. Just saying it happens ever single week on tour. EVERY WEEK but no one says anything. NEVER

The rule about the 88 is a stupid one.

Mickelson quit last week and if he played this week no one would have raised an eyebrow. NO ONE

She has been injured this year so no comment on her play other than she should focus on the LPGA.

She is still in high school, will continue learning how to play and act. She has room to grow on both. I know everyone here at MW was a perfect human being as a teenager and spare me the nonsense that because she has money that means she isnt a teenager. Thats just being stupid. Pressel acts like an idiot all the time and she will grow too.
That's a hilarious line about Frankenstein, Aly, but, woefully inaccurate. If Man Boobs were to jettison his wife and marry Wie I suspect you'd felt you done died and gone to heaven, as you seem to have blind spots about both of them. I have no doubt that pros withdraw every week; the question is, how many of them are in her special niche where if they shoot an 88 they get the boot for a year? Now, add on, how many of THOSE players mysteriously injure their wrist when they're pretty close to the one year ban? Now, add on, how many of those players, in that special niche, who had a mysterious injury, were then seen practicing not long after wards? For you to pretend this was not at all a special situation, and therefore didn't deserve much coverage nor criticism, is disingenuous to say the least.
As for the 88-and-out rule, you sound like people I know who defend Nadal and Sharapova, both of whom have received illegal coaching during their tennis matches, by saying that the rule against coaching is "stupid." It may be, and it may NOT be, but that doesn't change the fact that you don't get to ignore, break, or get around rules just because you don't like them. Golfers are forever babbling about how their game is one of honor, integrity, and following the rules-where's the honor in a transparent injury done to get around a rule, then insulting people's intelligence by insisting nothing was wrong with being seen practicing a short time later? Does Sorenstam have a history of recklessly running her mouth and ripping players who don't deserve it?
On a somewhat different subject, am I to understand that you believe that Wie is more promising than another player (who I'm guessing is the same age or even younger) who has more majors than Wie has wins of any kind? And, are you still denying that Wie has gotten worse in the last year or so?

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Old 06-07-2007, 06:34 PM
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just out of curiousity....when does this chick turn 18?



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Old 06-07-2007, 07:24 PM
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That's a hilarious line about Frankenstein, Aly, but, woefully inaccurate. If Man Boobs were to jettison his wife and marry Wie I suspect you'd felt you done died and gone to heaven, as you seem to have blind spots about both of them. I have no doubt that pros withdraw every week; the question is, how many of them are in her special niche where if they shoot an 88 they get the boot for a year? Now, add on, how many of THOSE players mysteriously injure their wrist when they're pretty close to the one year ban? Now, add on, how many of those players, in that special niche, who had a mysterious injury, were then seen practicing not long after wards? For you to pretend this was not at all a special situation, and therefore didn't deserve much coverage nor criticism, is disingenuous to say the least.
As for the 88-and-out rule, you sound like people I know who defend Nadal and Sharapova, both of whom have received illegal coaching during their tennis matches, by saying that the rule against coaching is "stupid." It may be, and it may NOT be, but that doesn't change the fact that you don't get to ignore, break, or get around rules just because you don't like them. Golfers are forever babbling about how their game is one of honor, integrity, and following the rules-where's the honor in a transparent injury done to get around a rule, then insulting people's intelligence by insisting nothing was wrong with being seen practicing a short time later? Does Sorenstam have a history of recklessly running her mouth and ripping players who don't deserve it?
On a somewhat different subject, am I to understand that you believe that Wie is more promising than another player (who I'm guessing is the same age or even younger) who has more majors than Wie has wins of any kind? And, are you still denying that Wie has gotten worse in the last year or so?

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Wie has played very well in the LPGA majors. Very well.

As far as taking a step back she was right there in the US Open last year (women's). Since then she has taken some steps back but most of that has been in LPGA events
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:18 AM
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Wie has played very well in the LPGA majors. Very well.

As far as taking a step back she was right there in the US Open last year (women's). Since then she has taken some steps back but most of that has been in LPGA events
Well, hasn't she pledged to stop playing in men's events and concentrate solely on women's events? So, regression in what she hopes will be her bread and butter for the next several years is not a good sign, no?

As my pointing out that what she did was NOT a run-of-the-mill pull out, and that she deserved the criticism she got, I take it you have no refutation of the 3 unusual aspects that are present in this incident...


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Old 06-10-2007, 05:26 PM
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"By DOUG FERGUSON Sunday, June 10, 2007

HAVRE DE GRACE, Md. - Phil Mickelson withdrew because of a wrist injury and flew home to San Diego for an MRI. He saw two doctors, had one cortisone shot and decided to withdraw from his next tournament. Michelle Wie withdrew because of a wrist injury and went to the range to hit balls. In fairness, at least she took a day off.

Maybe that made her left wrist feel better, but it did nothing to quell the mounting criticism around her.

That the 17-year-old from Honolulu would walk out of the Ginn Tribute last week with only two holes left in the first round is suspicious enough. The LPGA Tour has a rule that nonmembers who don't break 88 _ and Wie was two bogeys away from that _ cannot play again for the rest of the year.

Worse yet was showing up at Bulle Rock on the weekend to hit balls. She played the pro-am Monday at the LPGA Championship, practiced some more on Tuesday and has no expectations for the second major of the year, conceding she is not at her best.

That didn't sit well with the LPGA Tour's biggest star _ Annika Sorenstam _ who happened to be the tournament host at the Ginn.

"I just feel that there's a little bit of lack of respect and class just to leave a tournament like that and then come out and practice here," said Sorenstam, who soldiered on for four days despite returning from a back and neck injury.

"It's a little funny that you pull out with an injury and then you start grinding. My doctor told me to rest."

Sorenstam was quick to note that Wie received a sponsor's exemption to the tournament. That means she was invited. The feeling on the LPGA Tour is that Wie has mistaken invitation for entitlement.

Only it is becoming apparent that Wie doesn't see it that way.

She opened her press conference Tuesday afternoon wanting to clarify a few issues from last week. One suspected there might be an apology to the tournament sponsors for a situation beyond her control. Instead, she explained when she injured her wrist during the tournament (first hole), how she injured her wrist in the first place (running in a park) and that she still wasn't 100 percent.

"I'm going through a hard time," she said. "It's my first time facing an injury."

Asked about Sorenstam's criticism, Wie said nothing was said to her and she had nothing to say back.

"I don't think I need to apologize for anything," she said. "I just have to take care of my body and move forward and only think of positive things."

Those are becoming hard to find.

The hysteria over Wie was at a high last year at Bulle Rock. She had narrowly missed qualifying for the U.S. Open at Winged Foot, stopped only by her putting at the Canoe Brook qualifier. She was poised to become golf's youngest major champion until a wayward wedge from the 16th fairway of the final round at the LPGA Championship.

But her game began to disintegrate that summer. She was taken away on a stretcher from the John Deere Classic. She finished dead last in consecutive weeks in Switzerland and Pennsylvania competing against the men. She failed to break 80 at the Casio World Open on the Japanese tour. She even struggled against the women, finishing 17th in a field of 20 at the Samsung World Championship.

Her troubles now go beyond the wrist injury and her swing.

She talked endlessly Tuesday about wanting to have fun, yet there was a quiver in her voice, and no one would have been surprised to see a tear. One minute she begged for patience, the next she was defiant as ever.

Along with public criticism from Sorenstam and private skepticism from a host of others, she was further rattled when LPGA Tour commissioner Carolyn Bivens spoke to her camp about her behavior in the Ginn pro-am.

"I think it was very insulting because I tried my best," Wie said. "It's my sixth year out here, and I played in numerous pro-ams, and I think it's ridiculous to make any false accusations about me. I just hope she gets better information."

The nature of the complaints remained a mystery. Wie said she was busy with housing applications at Stanford and "way too many other things to stress about," and suggested someone take it up with her manager or Bivens.

"You should talk to the commissioner," agent Greg Nared said.

Bivens did not make herself available, saying through a spokeswoman that the conversation was between her and the Wies.

By all accounts, an LPGA Tour official was involved in discussions with the Wie camp about the tour's infamous "Rule 88" shortly before she withdrew. It would have been interesting to see what the tour would have done had Wie finished her round and shot 88 or worse, because it has a recent history of amending the rules for a certain teenager from Hawaii.

Remember, the rules were changed in 2005 that allowed Wie to become the first amateur to compete in the LPGA Championship. That was the same year the Women's British Open no longer counted against the limit of six LPGA exemptions.

Wie, whose class at Punahou School went through commencement without her Saturday night in Honolulu, said she would be patient with herself and asked others to do the same.

"I'm only human," she said.

But she is no longer the prodigy that amazed the golf world with such power for such youth.

She is 17, but no longer a kid.

There was a time the LPGA Tour needed Wie a lot more than Wie needed the LPGA Tour. That might not be the case anymore.

People are far more willing to forgive a bad round than bad manners.


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