Hooked: Illegal Drugs and How They Got That Way

[drunkguy]

well I picked some up this weekend after hearing some rave reviews


not sure if I'm ready to give it a try tonight, but fuck it I probably will

[Uncle B]

Originally Posted by drunkguy

well I picked some up this weekend after hearing some rave reviews


not sure if I'm ready to give it a try tonight, but fuck it I probably will

lol


pretty much the same story here...bought a bottle of the stuff about a week ago, but, kinda nervous about trying it till the wife leaves town for a few days.


just seems safer that way...


did yours come in a pouch, or a bottle?

the stuff i got came in a plastic bottle...i thought they were giving me the wrong thing till i opened it...it is definitely a dead plant...smells pretty too.

[Uncle B]

this is what it says on the shit i picked up.



Salvia divinorum 10X Extract (Standardized Salvinorin Enhanced)

1 gram cost 24.99 locally..


tell you the truth, i'm not sure i even wanna try smoking this shit now..lol


not sure why, but, i think this is just a bad idea..

[drunkguy]

Originally Posted by Uncle B

not sure why, but, i think this is just a bad idea..

very possible, won't be the first bad idea i've walked into

the 10X is supposed to be a good "dose" from what I heard. I got 60X from this place but I guess it's the same as 15x of others brands or something

I got this one, came recommended from my trusty local headshop owner





came in a little plastic container like a tin


i'll give it a few whacks later and report back

[Uncle B]

Cool i'll wait to see how you fair...

[rayray]

now this will be an interesting evening to say the least.

[Hartley]

KCBD, NewsChannel 11 Lubbock |Salvia: A Legal But Dangerous High

[howid]

[Bostongambler]

Rock on howid, Rock on.

[drunkguy]

wow that shit is pretty intense

[StarnetGypsy]

Originally Posted by drunkguy

wow that shit is pretty intense

peeling back reality yet?

[drunkguy]

Originally Posted by StarnetGypsy

peeling back reality yet?

um, guess you could say that. It's definitely not for amatuers

maybe i just had a "bad trip" but i have fucked with plenty of psychadelics and this was more intense than any of them


i took one whack waited about 30 seconds, and then felt like I should crawl into the TV

like TV was reality and they were looking in on me. Actually seemed as if i was part of the conversation in the movie. I actually had to turn off the movie i was watching to snap out of it. Oh, the movie was "knocked Up", never figured that one to be too intense to watch. Honestly thought I would be on here saying "remember that part of the movie where it's like they're talking out of the screen to the audience and they're pointing out to you like the audience is in the movie"? Just went back to watch and of course there is nothing even remotely like that in the movie.

Really it felt like I was pressed back against some kind of sheet and all the stuff in my apartment was just painted on the walls of the sheet. The sheet of course was the "4th wall" of the movie so once i walked through the TV i would be out of the sheet and back into reality (inside the guy's apartment in the movie)




I do realize that makes no sense whatsoever, so, yea, it's pretty potent stuff


it lasted about 10 minutes and then wore off pretty quick. actually glad it didn't last much longer. I got my fill


oh, and when i wrote that first post i was in a complete cold sweat. That was fun

anyway, don't think I'd recommend it, at least not to someone who's not used to this kind of stuff

I sealed mine up and don't think i will be pulling it out for awhile

Uncle, you'll like it. Just stay away from heights and sharp objects. Maybe throw a helmet on

[StarnetGypsy]

LMFAO

yer slaying me DG, too feckin funny ... you oughta write comedy.

i've been outta body a few times, once with weed, once with LSD, and once the night i got my body cast off that'd been on for 6/months, so i'm fairly comfortable with that ... the stuff tho where the walls start turning to little flowers, people's faces start melting, and their bodies get real short an squatty like dwarfs, or i can hear dogs talking to me with vibrations still puts me off bubble a wee bit. sounds like that's what you were going thru ...

glad yer alright, DG

[Minnow]

B, I just noticed the part where you said you went to Southern Nutrition but didn't dare ask for it because the guy knows your father-in-law. I imagined you at the counter like a kid wanting to buy condoms. Umm ya, I'll have a tiger milk bar and some of this here Zinc with dolomite.. and lemme see, another tiger bar... some stress tabs, a gram of Salvia divinorum, and a quart of aloe juice.

DG, also LMFAO, and probably like Gyps, because I can relate, though it's been awhile. I remember 2 acid trips in particular where I was mired in deja vu-ness. I mean, everything I did I kept telling myself omg, I was here before and that is exactly what happened then! omg, Mark said "do I turn left here?" last time too!! Went on for hours.. other time was at a Jeff Beck concert. I whispered to my girlfriend as we walked to pur seats "we have been at this concert before!" and she gave me that warning look like don't scare me and don't fuck up this concert for me, so I shut up. But all through it I was thinking, wow.. I have been here before, same seats and everything! Was very strange.

I think I'll pass on the Salvia, but if y'all do it some more we want to hear about it.

[StarnetGypsy]

Minnow, w/re DejaVu. I had a psych prof in the 60's who was hip and verrry sharp. The way he explained DV to me was that the mind is going so fast some times that you remember the instant recall memory as longterm memory, so it feels like you've been there before ... or ... you can think you've been there before, don't wanna bum your trip

[Uncle B]

Originally Posted by Minnow

B, I just noticed the part where you said you went to Southern Nutrition but didn't dare ask for it because the guy knows your father-in-law. I imagined you at the counter like a kid wanting to buy condoms. Umm ya, I'll have a tiger milk bar and some of this here Zinc with dolomite.. and lemme see, another tiger bar... some stress tabs, a gram of Salvia divinorum, and a quart of aloe juice.

DG, also LMFAO, and probably like Gyps, because I can relate, though it's been awhile. I remember 2 acid trips in particular where I was mired in deja vu-ness. I mean, everything I did I kept telling myself omg, I was here before and that is exactly what happened then! omg, Mark said "do I turn left here?" last time too!! Went on for hours.. other time was at a Jeff Beck concert. I whispered to my girlfriend as we walked to pur seats "we have been at this concert before!" and she gave me that warning look like don't scare me and don't fuck up this concert for me, so I shut up. But all through it I was thinking, wow.. I have been here before, same seats and everything! Was very strange.

I think I'll pass on the Salvia, but if y'all do it some more we want to hear about it.

LOL


Yeah, i wound up buying some friggin shampoo....Stuff smells wretched too.

It sat in the car for a few days, finally brought it in when Trish saw it sitting in the back seat.



Your acid story makes me wanna go find some new tabs...

[Uncle B]

Originally Posted by drunkguy

um, guess you could say that. It's definitely not for amatuers

maybe i just had a "bad trip" but i have fucked with plenty of psychadelics and this was more intense than any of them


i took one whack waited about 30 seconds, and then felt like I should crawl into the TV

like TV was reality and they were looking in on me. Actually seemed as if i was part of the conversation in the movie. I actually had to turn off the movie i was watching to snap out of it. Oh, the movie was "knocked Up", never figured that one to be too intense to watch. Honestly thought I would be on here saying "remember that part of the movie where it's like they're talking out of the screen to the audience and they're pointing out to you like the audience is in the movie"? Just went back to watch and of course there is nothing even remotely like that in the movie.

Really it felt like I was pressed back against some kind of sheet and all the stuff in my apartment was just painted on the walls of the sheet. The sheet of course was the "4th wall" of the movie so once i walked through the TV i would be out of the sheet and back into reality (inside the guy's apartment in the movie)




I do realize that makes no sense whatsoever, so, yea, it's pretty potent stuff


it lasted about 10 minutes and then wore off pretty quick. actually glad it didn't last much longer. I got my fill


oh, and when i wrote that first post i was in a complete cold sweat. That was fun

anyway, don't think I'd recommend it, at least not to someone who's not used to this kind of stuff

I sealed mine up and don't think i will be pulling it out for awhile

Uncle, you'll like it. Just stay away from heights and sharp objects. Maybe throw a helmet on

Man...I guess i have to try the shit now..lol


I feel too shitty right now though, haven't slept nearly enough....I'm gonna try to crash again for a bit, might try taking a hit when i get back up.







''throw a helmet on''


lol


sounds promising...

[drunkguy]

Brain's Reaction To Potent Hallucinogen Salvia Explored

ScienceDaily (Apr. 28, 2008) — Brain-imaging studies performed in animals at the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Brookhaven National Laboratory provide researchers with clues about why an increasingly popular recreational drug that causes hallucinations and motor-function impairment in humans is abused. Using trace amounts of Salvia divinorum - also known as "salvia," a Mexican mint plant that can be smoked in the form of dried leaves or serum - Brookhaven scientists found that the drug's behavior in the brains of primates mimics the extremely fast and brief "high" observed in humans.


Quickly gaining popularity among teenagers and young adults, salvia is legal in most states, but is grabbing the attention of municipal lawmakers. Numerous states have placed controls on salvia or salvinorin A - the plant's active component - and others, including New York, are considering restrictions.

"This is probably one of the most potent hallucinogens known," said Brookhaven chemist Jacob Hooker, the lead author of the study, which is the first to look at how the drug travels through the brain. "It's really important that we study drugs like salvia and how they affect the brain in order to understand why they are abused and to investigate their medicinal relevance, both of which can inform policy makers."

Hooker and fellow researchers used positron emission tomography, or PET scanning, to watch the distribution of salvinorin A in the brains of anesthetized primates. In this technique, the scientists administer a radioactively labeled form of salvinorin A (at concentrations far below pharmacologically active doses) and use the PET scanner to track its site-specific concentrations in various brain regions.

Within 40 seconds of administration, the researchers found a peak concentration of salvinorin A in the brain - nearly 10 times faster than the rate at which cocaine enters the brain. About 16 minutes later, the drug was essentially gone. This pattern parallels the effects described by human users, who experience an almost immediate high that starts fading away within 5 to 10 minutes.

High concentrations of the drug were localized to the cerebellum and visual cortex, which are parts of the brain responsible for motor function and vision, respectively. Based on their results and published data from human use, the scientists estimate that just 10 micrograms of salvia in the brain is needed to cause psychoactive effects in humans.

Salvia doesn't cause the typical euphoric state associated with other hallucinogens like LSD, Hooker said. The drug targets a receptor that is known to modulate pain and could be important for therapies as far reaching as mood disorders.

"Most people don't find this class of drugs very pleasurable," Hooker said. "So perhaps the main draw or reason for its appeal relates to the rapid onset and short duration of its effects, which are incredibly unique. The kinetics are often as important as the abused drug itself."

The Brookhaven team plans to conduct further studies related to salvia's abuse potential. The scientists also hope to develop radioactive tracers that can better probe the brain receptors to which salvia binds. Such studies could possibly lead to therapies for chronic pain and mood disorders.

These results are now published online in the journal NeuroImage. This research was funded by the Office of Biological and Environmental Research within DOE's Office of Science. DOE has a long-standing interest in research on brain chemistry gained through brain-imaging studies. Brain-imaging techniques such as PET are a direct outgrowth of DOE's support of basic physics and chemistry research.

[voiceofjanis]

Anybody here a fan of DMT?