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Old 02-11-2007, 03:44 PM
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I just got off the phone with Neteller, took me all of 30 seconds to get in and speak with Margaret.

I am going to make a separate thread to help people protect their money.
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Old 02-11-2007, 03:45 PM
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DG, I looked at your list of books in this thread
Neteller Issue - Probably wise to change your password ASAP

The only common books between you, me, and the guy I referred to in my initial post are:

Intertops
Pinnacle

That's IT!

If you play poker, then PokerWorld is another one which is common between me and my buddy. Did you use PW in the past?
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Old 02-11-2007, 03:51 PM
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I just got off the phone with Neteller, took me all of 30 seconds to get in and speak with Margaret.

I am going to make a separate thread to help people protect their money.
Which number do you use? I used 1-888-258-5859. I get the message "higher than usual call volume"... then the menu selection comes up. "Stay on the line for next customer service agent". Then the menu comes back about three times. Then line cuts off. Just tried again - same result. I also tried 1-403-233-9466 but I get a voice mail that seems to be full.
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Old 02-11-2007, 04:00 PM
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The Major, I have never had, sold, or used a Neteller Database. You need to speak with BettingProphets he is the one in this shit and not me. Oh hold on, you allow him to post here and use your own forum for his database business.

I got clean hands

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Old 02-11-2007, 04:02 PM
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Freak, I called the number you listed in the thread you just started.
1-877-288-4545

Was able to get through - finally. The non-VIP phone numbers are useless at the moment.

The person I talked to - Margaret - was almost useless as well. She did give me a new secure ID, however she said there is nothing she can do about the money I lost, I have to e-mail investigations@neteller.com. It seems someone should have taken the situation with a little sense of urgency.

So I will just forward the same e-mails to that e-mail address and see what happens.

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Old 02-11-2007, 04:06 PM
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The Major, I have never had, sold, or used a Neteller Database. You need to speak with BettingProphets he is the one in this shit and not me. Oh hold on, you allow him to post here and use your own forum for his database business.

I got clean hands

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Betting Prophets, huh? Should have known. No wonder I am getting all these spam scam emails about winning the lottery. This guy is as crooked as a Gaylord Perry spitball.
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Old 02-11-2007, 04:17 PM
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I think Peeps is the only forum where AK is allowed to post, though I don't think he has been since you forced him into retirement a couple weeks back. Maybe EOG, unless he screwed The Shrink somehow after Ken gave him the stolen RX database.
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Old 02-11-2007, 04:21 PM
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Just changed my login details, you never know with the mayhem that's been brought upon us lately.

Be even more careful about Moneybookers, people have had funds go missing there and MB hasn't cared one bit.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:49 AM
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AK, why are you using your girlfriend's identity to try to sell your site. Also the phony cancer story takes the cake:

Good Afternoon,

I'm the owner of starbuckssports.com and I'm offering the site and forum for a reasonable price.. You can make your money back within 1 month! I have 4 kids and was just diagnosed with cervical cancer and no longer at this time operate this site until I'm better. I will give you everything I have for this site and transfer affiliate packages over to you. I would except almost any sort of payment via paypal, moneybookers, western union, moneygram etc, bankwire etc. With my kids and my current health I want to sell this site as soon as I can and price isn't really an issue at this time. I'm not exactly sure how to check "Traffic" so if your interested and want to know traffic tell me how and I will get it for you. If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask. My email address is stshsth@hotmail.com. Last month I made $3,700 from one site alone and will let you login to my packages to confirm as I have nothing to hide.

Thanks for looking and good luck on the auction.

Tiffany

http://www.dealasite.com/buy-sell-we....html#MoreDesc
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:23 AM
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Despicable.
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:23 AM
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THe fact that neteller does not have a system in place to check rapid fire declined transfers in this day and age is absolutely and completely reprehensible.

How many shots they going to give the guy at BetMore's money? before something goes off? What they thinking guy is a complete fukkin moron with no idea what his account contains?
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:05 PM
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I think what is really reprehensible is the fact that this has been goin on for a few weeks now, and Neteller has done absolutely nothing.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:29 PM
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AK, why are you using your girlfriend's identity to try to sell your site. Also the phony cancer story takes the cake:

Good Afternoon,

I'm the owner of starbuckssports.com and I'm offering the site and forum for a reasonable price.. You can make your money back within 1 month! I have 4 kids and was just diagnosed with cervical cancer and no longer at this time operate this site until I'm better. I will give you everything I have for this site and transfer affiliate packages over to you. I would except almost any sort of payment via paypal, moneybookers, western union, moneygram etc, bankwire etc. With my kids and my current health I want to sell this site as soon as I can and price isn't really an issue at this time. I'm not exactly sure how to check "Traffic" so if your interested and want to know traffic tell me how and I will get it for you. If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask. My email address is stshsth@hotmail.com. Last month I made $3,700 from one site alone and will let you login to my packages to confirm as I have nothing to hide.

Thanks for looking and good luck on the auction.

Tiffany

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Old 02-12-2007, 02:05 PM
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marc, that really bothers me as well. Why are they not treating 10bet as a corrupt account and intercepting all debit requests to check over manually?
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Old 02-12-2007, 04:03 PM
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Again, since there are several threads regarding this situation I am linking the latest in case one or the other falls of the front page.

** Read this and protect yourself ** Neteller must do's.
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:47 PM
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marc, that really bothers me as well. Why are they not treating 10bet as a corrupt account and intercepting all debit requests to check over manually?
Neteller is doing NOTHING as far as I know to prevent this from happening again. When on the phone they pretend like it's not a wide-ranging situation when we all know it is. How many accounts have been accessed with this $10 request for 10bet? Must be in the hundreds.

It's been more than 24 hours and I have not received an answer to any of my numerous e-mails to them, including at least 3-4 to the vip e-mail and 2 to investigations@neteller.com.

The worst thing is that I was in front of my computer when the first scam withdrawal was made ($10 to 10bet). I immediately went into my account to see what was going on, I e-mailed back Neteller after I received the notice about the withdrawal, and I called them. If they had promptly handled my e-mail or if they had answered the phone (1-403 number or 1-888 number), they would have had time to lock my account before the next withdrawal was made ($500) about 20 minutes later.

I consider myself very lucky because less than one month ago I had several thousands in my Neteller account so $500 and change was what I would consider a low balance. Which got me thinking, let's say I had $6000 in my account yesterday. I would have seen $10 go, then $1000, then ... and see my account being scammed in front of me live, without being able to do anything about it because they don't answer the phone? What a joke this place has become.

If I had the vip phone number (1-877) earlier I guess someone would have picked up the phone, but I almost never contact Neteller, let alone for urgent matters, that I never needed to get a hold of any phone number besides those listed on their website.
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:54 PM
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Oh and what about Mansion, the place which received the last $520 from my account. I was on the phone with them less than 30 minutes after the transfer, and I e-mailed them the screen shot of my Neteller account for them to track who did this. If they acted promptly they would have had time to freeze the account before he blows the money in a poker game with a pal. And freeze the account of the person who won the money and will probably ask for a payout. I only got an acknowledgment that they are looking into it.

It's almost as if they don't care that fraud is going on.

I am actually more pi$$ed about Mansion and Neteller's inaction than I was yesterday about losing a few hundred dollars. This is just the beginning, I won't go quietly.
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:03 PM
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And 10bet. How many times do they need to see unauthorized $10 transfer requests (whether declined or accepted) from Neteller being they act? They must obviously be aware of the situation.
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:16 PM
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Is this only affecting Canadian accounts?
If the US as well maybe we can do the same thing and get our money out this way.

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