Tito Ortiz post fight video

surfin joe · 09-30-2003, 06:24 AM

Hope this works

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On this modem I should have it sometime next month

BettingProphets · 09-30-2003, 11:47 AM

lmao

thanks surfin joe that made my day to see that sniveling fu ck cry on the podium

piece of trash never should have ducked Liddell, hope Zuffa makes him earn his rematch by fighting Vitor and or some respectable fighters first before Randy

personally cant wait for Vitor to get in the ring with Ortiz

surfin joe · 09-30-2003, 06:10 PM

Um, Vitor has ducked everyone and their mother and then Tito ducks one guy and you blast him for it? OK
It's not easy to fight someone you don't think you can beat. People have made Tito a scapegoat, but in reality about 1,000 fights have been ducked in MMA's short history.

I've cried after losses in football, it shows you care about what you're doing out there. He's only 28. Still a kid.

I'm proud of Tito.

jayhawk · 09-30-2003, 07:16 PM

Maybe it's the way Tito shows no respect for his opponents when he beats them, but it gave me pleasure to watch him cry. I don't lose respect for anyone who cries after a loss, but when you show no respect when you win, don't expect any when you lose. I remember when Lincoln McAlrevy from U of Iowa was going for his 3rd NCAA title his junior year. He was hoping to become the first four time NCAA champ. He and his family were all doing interviews and mugging for the camera. When he lost in the finals to Marrinetti from Illinois the camera turned to Lincolns wife and sisters who were all bawling like there was a death in the family, they all started yelling at the cameraman to stop filming them and to leave them alone, well if you want the publicity when things are going good you have to eat it when things go bad.

surfin joe · 09-30-2003, 08:17 PM

yeah, Tito started that tshirt BS when he was like 23. It was just a way to get his name out there. I think that he actually did share a lot of mutual respect with the other guys, but he just needed a gig, kinda like pro wrestling. it got him more fights and added some drama that he needed. he's not the best actor or even speaker so he had to sell himself any way he could. he had to generate interest because he was just another GnP guy, not a belfort and not Frank Shamrock.

Joe Banannas · 09-30-2003, 08:17 PM

Tito hadn't fought anyone this talented and experienced since Frank Shamrock.Randy Couture Is the best 200lb fighter out there-has been for awhile.After seeing him out Chuck Chuck at his own game It was a no brainer that with Tito's one dimensional underhook/ground&pound style Randy would take his game away-easiest dog pic ever.Vitor has had to get his head straight,but has the talent to give Tito some more Humble pie.You have to give mad props to Randy-a 40 yr old teaching class and exhibiting a lot also.

surfin joe · 09-30-2003, 08:49 PM

How much did you put on Randy?

Frank is very overrated and a lot weaker than Randy or Tito. He won a lot of fights from cardio or submitting clueless opponents. That wouldn't work in today's game. Overpowering bullies would kick his ass now.

Hoops · 09-30-2003, 08:59 PM

Frank is a natural middleweight...of course he was/is weaker than Tito or Randy who both probably weigh closer to 220-225 before cutting. Currently, he wouldn't even be in the same weight class, or at least he shouldn't be, as Randy/Tito.

He beat plenty of good to very good fighters. Bas, Suzuki, Funaki, Enson, Zinoviev, Horn, Tito...those are all well-versed fighters who certainly weren't clueless.

surfin joe · 09-30-2003, 09:06 PM

first 3 were in Pancrase not MMA. and Bas also beat him twice. Enson and Zinoviev are not A-level save the quick sub win for Enson over Couture. Horn was very green and barely lost and Tito gassed after throwing him around for 4 rounds.

I'm not saying Frank wasn't a good fighter, just saying that both Tito and Randy would kick his ass now, weight difference or not. he's not the God everyone thinks he is and he won't fight anyone good anymore anyway. Oh... except for Brian Pardoe (LOL)

Oddessa · 09-30-2003, 09:49 PM

Have to agree with Joe here. The sport is constantly going forward and Franks dominate days are well behind him. His innactivity and lack of cross training make him very beatable in todays MMA world.

Joe Banannas · 10-01-2003, 04:10 AM

Frank beat Tito on technique,that fight was six years ago.The kid to bet now Is Judo Gene's new protege'-Karo Parisyan-he will rise to the top In the same fashion as Chuck and Tito,and there are some tough cookies In welterweight-

BettingProphets · 10-01-2003, 04:44 AM

Vitor duck?

wtf man he took the Liddell fight on 2 weeks notice because Zuffa needed a fill in

the man is a machine if his head is on now NOBODY currently in UFC can beat him

surfin joe · 10-01-2003, 08:22 AM

Karo is very good, nice to see Judo represented in the UFC. That was a great sub on Powder.

If by technique you mean getting pounded on until Tito gassed like no other, than yes. Frank showed a lot of heart in that fight and had a solid gameplan. Tito was warned many times for actually digging his fingers into a huge cut on Frank's scalp. Good defense by Shammy, and I was pumped at the ending. Unfortunately just about everyone is a cardio badman now, not just him.

Off the top of my head, Vitor has ducked the UFC 11 tourney, Mark Coleman, TK, Brad Kohler (lol), desperately tried to duck Silva but then went ahead and kicked his ass anyway, handpicked Joe Charles for a worked fight at UFC Japan. I'm forgetting a few but they will come to me. The best excuse was the "tapeworm" defense. Although his injury in the days leading to the Tito fight were very strange (crashing thru a window during training), I believe them to be legit because I saw the gruesome photos.

I really like Vitor's style. Although he sort of reinvented himself into a LnP guy, he came back with a vengeance against Eastman, grooving a canyon in his forehead. I would love to see him fight Randy again. Randy by GnP TKO. He can get him down pretty easily w/o eating too many shots.

Franklin vs Belfort should be great, provided Vitor doesn't come up with something new. I'll take Vitor.

surfin joe · 10-01-2003, 08:35 AM

ps....Vitor will put up a better fight against RC than last time, even though he will lose. In the first fight his only training in the weeks leading up was screwing his girlfriend marinara in a hotel. that dude pulls all te brazilian supermodel pussy.

surfin joe · 10-01-2003, 06:31 PM

Surfin Joe speaks the truth!!

Yours Truly,
Grandpa Randy AKA Captain America

Joe Banannas · 10-01-2003, 10:36 PM

<< Karo is very good, nice to see Judo represented in the UFC. That was a great sub on Powder.

If by technique you mean getting pounded on until Tito gassed like no other, than yes. Frank showed a lot of heart in that fight and had a solid gameplan. Tito was warned many times for actually digging his fingers into a huge cut on Frank's scalp. Good defense by Shammy, and I was pumped at the ending. Unfortunately just about everyone is a cardio badman now, not just him.

Off the top of my head, Vitor has ducked the UFC 11 tourney, Mark Coleman, TK, Brad Kohler (lol), desperately tried to duck Silva but then went ahead and kicked his ass anyway, handpicked Joe Charles for a worked fight at UFC Japan. I'm forgetting a few but they will come to me. The best excuse was the "tapeworm" defense. Although his injury in the days leading to the Tito fight were very strange (crashing thru a window during training), I believe them to be legit because I saw the gruesome photos.

I really like Vitor's style. Although he sort of reinvented himself into a LnP guy, he came back with a vengeance against Eastman, grooving a canyon in his forehead. I would love to see him fight Randy again. Randy by GnP TKO. He can get him down pretty easily w/o eating too many shots.

Franklin vs Belfort should be great, provided Vitor doesn't come up with something new. I'll take Vitor. >>

Agreed.Frank was In the winter of his career when he fought Tito,his only hope was a mental error- Tito has known all the tricks for awhile.The days of Royce daviding goliaths are a distant memory,It's all bout power,wind,and diversity.. but that's what makes this medium of combat so attractive.I remember the first ten or so UFC's having trouble booking high school gyms for events,now they have Shaq ringside and Al Bernstien doing retros!

With Vitor's heavy hands and superior ground skills he could emerge the winner In either a Tito or Chuck fight(which will probably happen)but I'll stick with the Natural against any of those three..I still thinka guy who could beat all of the above If motivated Is another 40yr old-Rickson Gracie

surfin joe · 10-01-2003, 11:24 PM

Rickson is legit and the best Gracie. But I doubt he would sign to fight any of these guys. He is very expensive.

Oddessa · 10-01-2003, 11:26 PM

Was it Rickson in 'Choke' the movie?

AnotherBadBeat · 10-02-2003, 12:15 AM

Thanks for the Link Surfin , ................... You da Man !!! , get one of Randy if you can .............. post fight that is .....

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