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| Alec, In the good old days of BTJ I loved to read his tips and their foundations. If I could ever get a better price than he suggested, I would sometimes even follow him up to an odd 5 figure. Whenever his bets would be wining I would sit behind my PC screaming: "We got it all. We got it all". I was kind of lucky being too busy with other things not to pay too much attention to his tips, when things turned against him. I must say that I totally stopped reading his posts after the Cascade incident. They became predictable and boring. Maybe the Major knocked him out, because of that? Halifax, How many have an account with Cascade? Anyhow I will try to sum up my thoughts on the whole issue: A) It is the books responsibility to post the correct times. (Cascade failed here) B) All other books/betting exchanges that I know of would have cancelled this bet. (Why does Cascade do different?) C) Even Cascade had in their rules that bets can be cancelled, if placed after the actual starting time. (Why did they not follow up this rule?) I understand that Cascade would have honoured the bet, if BTJ would have won, but I just do not like the fact then that they do different from what other books do. For me those guys working at Cascade are complete clowns. I will not open an account there, but maybe that is exactly what Cascade wants and why they let this BTJ incident happen this way. Am I alone in this one? |
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| I agree with the decision, I think he should be banned across the street as well. Those of you who keep saying " oh its beantownjim and no one listens to him anway" Need to take a frigging look around! Do you not see acw's post? Did you not notice that he convinced a mod across the street that he was right? PLEASE stop posting this non sense that he is influencing no one. His constant posting and bashing daily is furthering his agenda to scam Cascade..
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| << PLEASE stop posting this non sense that he is influencing no one. His constant posting and bashing daily is furthering his agenda to scam Cascade.. >> I agree If not to scam now, then to do whatever damage he can for failing to scam them. |
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| So I guess we are discussing Cascade-BTJ situation now. As Loman and a few others have said, if there was ever a past incident where Cascade never honoured a bet (including "iffy" bets such as what BTJ did), then the situation would be different. Halifax -- If Cascade always honors past posted bets (which I don't believe for a second), then what is the purpose of their rule about past posting? As I said before, this situation is very similar to that of Big Jerk. I like that Cascade tries to honor bad line bets etc, but I just don't see how one can justify a book breaking their own rules in their own favor. I understand that Cascade wanted to teach BTJ a lesson, but this is not the way to do it. |
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| Beantownsackofshit ?? Come on Major , you can think of better names than that ? I'll give a few options for later use. BrownStainJeans BirdbrainJim BeatartistJim CreampuffJim Beenaroundtownjim BothwaysJim PastPostingJim ManofhiswordNOTjim And I just thought of those in 1 minute. Abb |
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| I was the very first person to call BTJ out as a racist over a year ago and caught more hell for it and people telling me to "lighten up." Now you same people are kicking BTJ in the ass as he walks out the door? Pretty hypocritical. |
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| Are you referring to ME , Mr Bayshore Kid........................ I've always ripped on BTJ , but have also always gone on the record to say that I find him extremely entertaining. Archie Bunker was a racist too , but I think that show he was on "All in The Family " was the #1 show in America for like 5 years straight. BTJ gave his word to the MAJOR , and broke it. Therefore as a Man , he has to accept the responsibility of his actions. You want a f ucking pat on the back or a handshake for being the "First" to call him out. Whoopee F ucking Doo !!! Thats all your getting from me. ............. If I'm guilty of Kicking him on his way out , so be it. I don't lose sleep over it. You my friend are guilty of trying to take credit for something you have no control over , and thats BTJ getting banned. Only 1 person has the final word on who is IN and who is OUT ........... and it isn't me , it's not you. YOu want a hint ? Look at the f ucking name of this site. And another thing , you want to make references , use specific examples of who ? Instead of pussfooting around. You figure if you make other people look bad , its makes you look good. Why don't you look up Original in the Dictionary ? abb |
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| Originally posted by Alec (in part): << Halifax -- If Cascade always honors past posted bets (which I don't believe for a second), then what is the purpose of their rule about past posting? >> Alec, I agree with you on this and have posted before that the rule has no force or purpose if it is claimed that the rule should not apply in this situation. Frankly, and I think that those versed in the law would agree, THAT is exactly how this would cut in a court of law. Ok, so maybe it is silly to talk about courts of law, BUT there is a valid argument to be made for BTJ. Now that his argument has been made and rejected, it is time for him to get it resolved formally or just forget about it. On a side note, BTJ is a numbnut IMO. |
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| Alec,no one has found one instance where Cascade did not honor a bet that they wrote.Bad line past post,whatever.The biggest complaint on these forums is that books don't honor the bets they write.Here is a shop that does it and they still catch shit. |
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| Alec , its quite possible that I wasn't , and if I jumped the gun on Bayshore - I'm sorry. However , the last time BTJ was banned , I made several posts in his Behalf - You can check if you'd like. I was known as a BTJ supporter (Pro Bean Town) I still am , I like his stuff , I worked in Manhatton for several years in a Blue Collar job , and honestly the racist stuff doesn't bother me. ( First girl I ever kissed was black - to boot) However , if you also read my "stuff" you'll notice I like to Joke around alot , and everyone who is anyone is a target. BTJ is a hoot , but I don't my kicks kissing his ass , I get my kicks busting his balls ,and reading his posts. The same way he gets his kicks busting others. This post has been up for several days , I come in and make some jokes about BirdBrain , and next thing I know , BAYSHORE kid posts RIGHT after me .......... "Now you same people are kicking BTJ in the ass as he walks out the door? Pretty hypocritical. " If your gonna read one post of mine and call me a Hypocrite , read all 1315 ......... I guarantee you'll find I am very consistent in my ways , my style , and my attitude , and my posts. And on that note , I will end by saying ................. Kiss my "WHITE" Ass abb |
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| Loman -- I think it would be great if Cascade could honor every bet they write, but they can't. The reason they have the past posting rule in place is to protect themselves. If a book wants to break the rule, it can do it in the players favor only. For example, had BTJ's bet won, they could have said, "OK, Jim, you can have your money", but they could also say, "Sorry, Jim, you placed the bet after the start of the game, check our rules" and nobody would have any right to blame them. To break the rules in the book's favor on the basis of "we would've done the same thing had you won" is wrong. |
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| alec, as much as I agree with you (see above) from what I know of Jimmy I can't say that I would have paid the guy $660. sorry Jiimmy you took a shot and got beat, kid. next time you wanna pull a scam better know that u are dealing with a guy who will honor his action no matter what. tough to find these days as JW mentioned above |
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| i have to admit, i will now have to go across the street to get my BTJ fix once and a while.......it's like going back to the well.....you don't want your friends to know, but you can't help your self[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] |
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