Don Best has ruined handicappers

[Grandfather]

That's my opinion.

Good solid cappers have become pawns to the DB screen. Watching for moves...looking for middles....figuring out who the BW's of the world are on...etc.
They have gotten so far away from actually handicapping games, they have forgoten how to put in the work needed to come up with an opinion on a game.

Screen watching is their new passion, when it used to be a labor of love digging in the dirt handicapping games. Times have sure changed. But change is not always good. I wonder how many used to do better doing their own work.

Now this opinion comes from a guy who has looked at that way of sports investing, but has never done it for real cash. He's just old school and likes it that way. The old way.

[Pancho Sanza]

I wouldn't say it has ruined handicapping, just changed the way it is done for some people.

I still handicap NFL the way I always did, and shop for lines too of course.

The fact that the screen exists doesn't affect old school capping.

[tor-evans]

I agree Grandfather, seems too many guys are watching the lines versus doing their homework and trusting their gut. Line moves can be a productive startegey at times and other times its way off. I still do it the old fashioned way and I'm not old, I just would rather do it myself rather than be at the mercy of lines moves. I don't care what the world is playing but I do care about what information others gather to help me form my opinion. But to each his/her own and to me the main objective is to have fun and make a little money on the side following what I love anyway, sports!

[Total Square]

how many successful 'players' are mearly screen watchers, as opposed to cappers???

[knuckle ball]

They ruined the whole industry beyond repair for there own fregging benefit. Don Best is the worst thing that happened to sports betting since the Kehaufer hearings!!!!

[Krdz1]

i think a good handicapper can be influenced by the line moves. I good capper should not. if a capper likes a game and it moves with him, he may like it more, if it moves against him he may not play it, thats wrong, a good capper has to have discipline, he can not let anything influence him.

knuckle the don best screen, is a screen that displays lines, if a casino moves a line the screen reflects the change. i think its the best tool available, and any serious player or book should have it.
I do however miss the good old days when not that many people had the service, I remember telling the few people in my area "don't tell anyone about d b, before you know it, everyone and their dad will have it." From d'b's standpoint, i'm sure they want all the subscribers they can get, from our standpoint, we wish it was a big secret and no one no about it. if you want to be mad, blame the whole internet, there's alot of people that just go to a sportsbooks page and refresh every ten seconds.

[Tom0Co]

<nevermind>

[pmj18]

It sure was fun, before all my local BM's heard about DB. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[beantownjim]

BOYS FOR YEARS I HAVE DONE IT ON MY OWN F-CK THE LINE MOVES DO EVERYTHING THE WAY I FEEL.WELL FELLAS THAT DIDNT WORK SO WELL FOR ME I GOT CLOBBERED THIS FOOTBALL SEASON,HOWEVER I AM MAKING UP FOR IT NOW.I HAVE STARTED TO PLAY THE MOVES AT ONE SPORTSBOOK ALL BASKETBALL TOTALS AND I AM ON FIRE THE LAST 5 WEEKS I HAVE COLLECTED.3,800,2,000,2,600,400,AND NOW THIS WEEK I AM UP 2000 THANKS TO A MIRACLE WIN LAST NIGHT OVER 190 1/2 IN THE SEATTLE GAME.BY THE WAY I AM ALSO PLAYING (IF LOSE BETS) AND MY FIRST GAME JUST KEEPS ON WINNING.FELLAS MY LOCAL GUY HAS A GUY ON THE DON BEST SYSTEM BUT HE DOESNT CALL HIM WITH THE CHANGES UNTIL ABOUT 5 MINUTES AFTER I GET THEM SO I AM ONE STEP AHEAD OF HIM HE HAS TRIED TO F-CK ME UP BY SAYING DO YOU KNOW THAT GAME YOU BET YESTERDAY WENT UP 1 1/2 POINTS I JUST PLAY DUMB AND SAY OH REALLY BUDDY I DONT PLAY LINE MOVES.BOYS I AM GOING TO LET YOU IN ON MY SECRET EVEN THOUGH I SHOULDNT THE SHARP SPORTDBOOK RIGHT NOW IS (WSEX) PLAY THERE LINE MOVES EVEN IF IT IS ONLY 1 POINT FELLAS THERE LINES ARE SHARP.SO F-CK ALL THE HANDICAPPING ALL THE LONG LONELY HOURS I SPEND DOWN AT FENWAY PARK LOOKING AT THE WIND I AM STAYING WITH THE HOT SPORTSBOOK AND READING MY LINES OFF THEM.HANDICAPPING IS FOR SUCKERS LINE MOVES ARE FOR WINNERS IT JUST TOOK ME A LITTLE LONGER TO FIND OUT.
(WE GET IT ALL,WE GET IT ALL) I GRIN WHEN I WIN[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[SteveH]

In Feb I show 11 wagers where the line moved, I only consider early moves not late or close to game time moves.

I show 8 wins and 3 losses in these game. (17 games where not a significant move or it move back.)

2-0 in game I when against the move
6-3 with the move.

My capping tends to agree with the moves over time but…..

I cap the game then look at the move but if it is going the other way I look for injuries or other reasons but if I still like it I go with it. Serious guys move those lines and their opinion deserves respect but I do not always agree with them.

Cap your own but respect others seem prudent.

Steve

[dngu047]

<< if a capper likes a game and it moves with him, he may like it more, if it moves against him he may not play it, thats wrong, a good capper has to have discipline, he can not let anything influence him >>



What do you mean by this? Let's say that you like a team at +6 when the books have the team at +4. If the line moves with you to +2, then of course you like the play more than you did at +4. On the other hand, if the line moves against you to +6 then you might not like the play anymore because the overlay has been wiped out.

[Scott Landau]

Jim,
Just admit you jumped aboard the Jew Express on Channel 12 in the Sportsnow pager. It's OK buddy........And you don't even have to let schtup your gap-toothed sister [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[beantownjim]

SCOTTY BOY I MUST ADMITT YOU ARE ON FIRE I DONT KNOW HOW YOU DID YESTERDAY.TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I SHOULD HAVE RODE THE WAVE BUT I DIDNT I ONLY USED ONE OF YOUR GAMES B.Y.U. LAST WEEK I MADE 800 THANKS PAL I WILL BE WATCHING TODAY TO SEE IF YOU CAN FINISH THE DEAL AND STAY IN 1ST PLACE.

ANYBODY WHO DOESNT THINK THERE IS RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY IF YOUR JEWISH SISTER WAS DATING SHAWN KEMP,KEVIN GARNETT,BEN WALLACE,OR SCOTTY LANDAU WHO WOULD YOU WELCOME WITH OPEN ARMS[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[Scott Landau]

Still in the driver's seat buddy, but big al and my good buddy Billy Coleman are still firing away with the bogus "10*" plays. Doing my best to stick with 2-3 Units per game and not use the fabricated 10* "Big Game". No one with discipline in this endeavor bets 2 or 3 hundred on 2 games, and then a Dime on another. Not if they want to survive. So why rate plays that way?

Ride the wave Jimmy! We're going for 10,000 points!!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]



ANYBODY WHO DOESNT THINK THERE IS CLASSISM IN THIS COUNTRY IF YOUR GAY BROTHER WERE DATING RICHARD SIMMONS, DAVID GEFFEN, KEVIN SPACEY, OR BEANTOWN JIM, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU NOT WELCOME WITH OPEN ARMS???

[Pancho Sanza]

Since when is David Geffen a Queen?[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

[ramonscottsports.com]

A contest is a contest and the rules should be used to the best advantage of the player. All the participants have to adhere to the same rules.

rs

I just got back from my 12- day Panama trip tonight, and I hope to find time within the next week to prepare a detailed report on the country. However, I hate to disappoint the horn dogs, whoremongers, and Del Rey sexual addicts who frequent this site and expect nuggets of information from me regarding venues and women, but his trip was not taken with lowly hedonistic sexual pleasure in mind. Heavens no. This trip was taken with two goals in mind: First, as a selfless service to the offshore sportsbook industry, I decided to scope out the country as a potential site for sportsbooks and, second, on behalf of Reno's Charity, I devoted myself--selflessly again, of course,--to the process of donating money to poor, working girls. Further, with rare time available for deep introspection, I've come up with a brilliant analogy:


The Don Best Screen is to handicapping as prostitution is to sex. Prostitution has not ruined sex, and the DB Screen has not ruined handicapping.

[Machiavelli]

...and the premium service costs about $500 in both cases. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[SlipperyPete]

And they both go down a lot[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]