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__________________ In 1998 the Department of Justice brought charges under the Wire Act against 22 American citizens involved in managing foreign-based sites. "You can’t hide online," Janet Reno, the attorney-general, warned Internet betting operators, "and you can’t hide offshore." |
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| Caro's Poker Probe is the best of the lot with options for many variations of almost all the commonly played games, but it's $70. John Cleland wrote a freeware analyzer that you can download and simulate from 1 to 7 players in hold-em, 5-stud, and 7-stud. You can find it here. |
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| Hey Butch, thx for the link, here's another interesting chart. https://www.pokerroom.com/evstats/to...php?players=10 TA
__________________ In 1998 the Department of Justice brought charges under the Wire Act against 22 American citizens involved in managing foreign-based sites. "You can’t hide online," Janet Reno, the attorney-general, warned Internet betting operators, "and you can’t hide offshore." |
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| BTW not only is Seabiscuit coming to theaters soon but this poker movie is in production as well: Lucky You! A New Poker Movie Posted By Jo - 4 November 2002 It's been confirmed that Curtis Hanson, director of Wonder Boys, L.A. Confidential, and upcoming 8 Mile, will direct the poker movie 'Lucky You' for Warner Bros. It's about the world of high-stakes professional poker, the film centers on 'a young poker player that confronts his inner demons as he tries to win a world championship in Las Vegas'. The film is penned by Eric Roth, writer of Forrest Gump and The Insider. No start date has been set so we're going to have to wait a couple of years, but any Hollywood movie about poker has got to be good for the future of the game
__________________ In 1998 the Department of Justice brought charges under the Wire Act against 22 American citizens involved in managing foreign-based sites. "You can’t hide online," Janet Reno, the attorney-general, warned Internet betting operators, "and you can’t hide offshore." |
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| << ...the film centers on 'a young poker player that confronts his inner demons... >> In other words, he's a scumbag. Maybe Edward Norton is available. << ...but any Hollywood movie about poker has got to be good for the future of the game >> WHAT??? You mean, like Rounders? That movie scared the hell out of people who already found the poker room intimidating; it gave them the added fear of being cheated. Rounders may have brought a few more people into the cardroom, but I'll bet it scared away a much bigger group. It didn't exactly start the booming times that billiards saw after "The Color of Money" came out. BTW, thanks for the simulator. I just read Sklansky's tournament book (another must-read by the master), and was meaning to get around to looking for one of those. |
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| An entertaining repost fr MM's board from Jimbo: Are you more or less likely to make a crying call from a player based on his listed "home". My examples: England: In Omaha8 a player from great Britain will raise in the cutoff or on the button more than 90% of the time. I always call to see the flop if I am already in the hand. If checked to this same person will bet no matter what flops but often fold to a reraise. They will do this with 5 players seeing the flop with no hope of stealing. What's the deal? Canada: In holdem they will play any ace preflop like it is AA or Ak and three bet if an ace flops no matter their kicker. 3rd World countries: Any game, any limit, raise, reraise and cap is all they know. West Coast USA: Raise preflop, suited connectors, baby pairs in EP and thier favorite AJ offsuit. East Coast USA: More stud players than Holdem players. Very tight but agressive in both these games. Rarely bluff without a redraw to the nuts. Will check the river without the nuts. Midwest USA: Many passive players, aka calling stations. Be careful with a river bet when they have check called you down all the way. Now I am not advocating you stereotype players based simply from their home origin but if they are unknown otherwise this is my "game theory" method of determing whether to call, raise, bluff or fold. Anyone else have a method to thier play vs: an otherwise unknown entity?
__________________ In 1998 the Department of Justice brought charges under the Wire Act against 22 American citizens involved in managing foreign-based sites. "You can’t hide online," Janet Reno, the attorney-general, warned Internet betting operators, "and you can’t hide offshore." |
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| I see the guy neglected to include the Aussie's he probably has the same policy as me, when they arrive flee quickly.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Other than Ozdolph of course. TA
__________________ In 1998 the Department of Justice brought charges under the Wire Act against 22 American citizens involved in managing foreign-based sites. "You can’t hide online," Janet Reno, the attorney-general, warned Internet betting operators, "and you can’t hide offshore." |
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| Never tried profiling by home location but I guess theres not that much to go by online. I still say though, there is no better forum for racial profiling than at a Poker (live) table. I'll spare the various classifications so I'm not labeled a BTJ. << An entertaining repost fr MM's board from Jimbo: Are you more or less likely to make a crying call from a player based on his listed "home". My examples: England: In Omaha8 a player from great Britain will raise in the cutoff or on the button more than 90% of the time. I always call to see the flop if I am already in the hand. If checked to this same person will bet no matter what flops but often fold to a reraise. They will do this with 5 players seeing the flop with no hope of stealing. What's the deal? Canada: In holdem they will play any ace preflop like it is AA or Ak and three bet if an ace flops no matter their kicker. 3rd World countries: Any game, any limit, raise, reraise and cap is all they know. West Coast USA: Raise preflop, suited connectors, baby pairs in EP and thier favorite AJ offsuit. East Coast USA: More stud players than Holdem players. Very tight but agressive in both these games. Rarely bluff without a redraw to the nuts. Will check the river without the nuts. Midwest USA: Many passive players, aka calling stations. Be careful with a river bet when they have check called you down all the way. Now I am not advocating you stereotype players based simply from their home origin but if they are unknown otherwise this is my "game theory" method of determing whether to call, raise, bluff or fold. Anyone else have a method to thier play vs: an otherwise unknown entity? >> |
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| Try http://www.hitorstand.net for an interesting blackjack simulator. |
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| The simulator made an error, assuming it's a single-deck game and no counting is involved. It recommended that the player hit a 7-7 against the dealer's 10. Surrender is the first choice, and if it isn't available, it's slightly better to stand than hit. |
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| Speaking of the ideal way to play your hand, who's info do you trust as the best source? I remember a while back how a few of us could not agree as to which author figured out the perfect way to play blackjack (assuming you aren't counting). Personally I trust John Scarne, but I was told that he's not 100% correct in his analysis. |
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