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Old 08-09-2002, 02:17 AM
KidVegas KidVegas is offline
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Default When Did Las Vegas Stop Paying 3-2 on Blackjack?

Las Vegas is becoming a joke at the table games too. The dealers should wear ski masks.
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:20 AM
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Answer the question? When did THEY?
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:24 AM
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Which casinos?
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:27 AM
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Also lost here...
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:37 AM
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He's not referring to Stupak's Las Vegas World, is he? The face-up, deal all-the-way-thru-deck game?

If it's even money on true 21 gms, then that IS robbery.
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:39 AM
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It only applies to SINGLE deck.

Downtown can yield some 3/2 single deck though.

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Old 08-09-2002, 02:58 AM
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At Caesars Palace. Did not know it is only at the single deck table.
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:58 AM
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Are you Fvcking Kidding me?? What a rip. No one should play that game. Don't play it, make them change it back...
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Old 08-09-2002, 03:00 AM
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Some are, some aren't. But anybody who plays where they
only pay 6-5 deserves all the bad luck they may encounter.
Don't encourage this nonsense by supporting it with play.
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Old 08-09-2002, 03:40 AM
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In Las Vegas style,

1 by 1 the Casinos are all changing the odds on a black-jack.

Corporate bosses are being called hero's by employees.

Brilliant Idea say the local Reporters, as they pick up their comps.

Too many WISEGUYS coming in...... "We must stop them" say the Bosses.

Only SUCKERS will come in now.

WHAT LOW LIFES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like the way some off-shore books are run.
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Old 08-09-2002, 04:04 AM
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I can just see these empty suits in their corporate offices saying, why should we pay the player 3-2 for a blackjack, the player does'nt pay us 3-2 when our dealers get a blackjack.
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Old 08-09-2002, 04:10 AM
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If the player gets blackjack about 4.5% of the time that the dealer doesn't also get blackjack, then that translates to about 2.25% at 3/2. If blackjack only pays 6-5, then the player is getting 0.9% extra and that means that the player is losing 1.35% to the house if blackjack is paying 6/5. Since the basic strategy in a single deck is somewhere around break-even, that puts the single deck somewhat worse than the 0.8% or so advantage the house has in a multi-deck shoe, depending on the house rules (blackjack experts could correct these figures or modify them by house option that favors/doesn't favor players).
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Old 08-09-2002, 02:00 PM
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Two versions are in use now that pay less than 3-2. One pays EV money,
the other 6-5. They had to stop allowing the use of half dollars at the
6-5 tables due to the odd payout on a BJ. Some wise-asses were
betting $5.50 just to watch the dealer get all confused when they
could't pay the $6.60 BJ payoff with what was in the rack.

You can do your part to help eliminate these games by buying in
for a large amount like 2K then refusing to play even one hand as you
"notice" the 6-5 or EV money payout. Just walk with the chips. What
this does is kill the hold at that table since $2000 was dropped but
the table "held" none of it. Hold percentage is one of the key
stats the casino uses to determine if a game is profitable and worth
keeping on the floor.
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Old 08-10-2002, 05:32 AM
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good idea, voodoo!
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Old 08-10-2002, 06:43 AM
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Only a matter of time before the state of Calif. takes their head out of the sand and start building casinos in Hollywood and on the ocean.
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