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Old 02-03-2003, 07:43 PM
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Default Pebble Beach Pro-Am..........thoughts and comments

I need a day or so but thought it would be good to get a thread started........


Will be back with some insight soon.........
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:46 PM
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I find it very hard to bet someone to win a Tournament. The only guy you can bet with confidence is Tiger and his odds are usually to low, sure there are times when I see someone that is just way too high and I'll take a stab. I would much rather focus on guys that I think are stiffs, and hope they have a good Thursday or Friday, and then short them. The beauty of it is you can short as many guys as you want, but only one can beat you.

That being said, I wouldn't be suprised to see Pat Perez play well this week. He was one of those guys that I thought was a stiff and didn't have the ability to win a golf tournament. Last year he almost proved me wrong at Pebble and I learned my lesson. He played well at this event last year, showed signs of being very sharp by shooting a 61 last week(I think he was something like 10 under through 11 holes) and might now actually believe he can play with the big boys. I'm not sure if I'll bet him before the Tourney starts or wait and maybe try and get some interactive shares on him if and when the time is right.

Good Luck this week
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Old 02-03-2003, 09:12 PM
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Here is a list of the field

AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am Field
02/03/03 2:06

2003 AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am



This list is for information purposes only. Field is subject to change. Players can contact PGA TOUR Headquarters for their alternate status.

Steven Alker
Steve Allan
Chris Anderson
Billy Andrade
Tommy Armour III
Woody Austin
Paul Azinger
Aaron Barber
Todd Barranger
Brian Bateman
Pat Bates
Notah Begay III
David Berganio, Jr.
Jay Don Blake
Guy Boros
Jeff Brehaut
Mark Brooks
Olin Browne
Bart Bryant
Jason Buha
George Burns
Jonathan Byrd
Tom Byrum
Jason Caron
Jim Carter
Alex Cejka
Brandel Chamblee
K.J. Choi
Brian Claar
Michael Clark II
Tim Clark
Keith Clearwater
Gavin Coles
John Cook
Fred Couples
Ben Crane
Ben Curtis
John Daly
Robert Damron
Marco Dawson
Glen Day
Jay Delsing
David Duval
David Edwards
Steve Elkington
Brad Faxon
Todd Fischer
Steve Flesch
Robin Freeman
David Frost
Jim Furyk
Robert Gamez
Kelly Gibson
Matt Gogel
Mathew Goggin
Jason Gore
David Gossett
Paul Gow
Paul Goydos
Ken Green
Mike Grob
Gary Hallberg
Donnie Hammond
Dudley Hart
Mike Heinen
Brian Henninger
Tim Herron
Lon Hinkle
Mike Hulbert
Peter Jacobsen
Lee Janzen
Per-Ulrik Johansson
Richard S. Johnson
Kent Jones
Jerry Kelly
Shawn Kelly
Skip Kendall
Jeff Klauk
John Klauk
Jeff Klein
Greg Kraft
Cliff Kresge
Joel Kribel
Kenichi Kuboya
Matt Kuchar
Hank Kuehne
Neal Lancaster
Brad Lardon
Scott Laycock
Tom Lehman
J.L. Lewis
Frank Lickliter II
Davis Love III
Sandy Lyle
Andrew Magee
John Maginnes
Roger Maltbie
Casey Martin
Bob May
Blaine McCallister
Scott McCarron
Jim McGovern
Rocco Mediate
Phil Mickelson
Andy Miller
Kris Moe
Bryce Molder
John E. Morgan
John Morse
Mark O'Meara
Arron Oberholser
Anthony Painter
Rod Pampling
Brenden Pappas
Deane Pappas
Jin Park
Jesper Parnevik
Jerry Pate
Steve Pate
Dennis Paulson
Corey Pavin
David Peoples
Pat Perez
Tom Pernice, Jr.
Kenny Perry
Tim Petrovic
Carl Pettersson
Phillip Price
Dicky Pride
Brett Quigley
Jeff Quinney
Mike Reid
Tag Ridings
John Riegger
Larry Rinker
Loren Roberts
John Rollins
Rory Sabbatini
Akio Sadakata
Andy Sanders
Tom Scherrer
Brent Schwarzrock
Steve Scott
John Senden
Patrick Sheehan
Scott Simpson
Vijay Singh
Mike Sposa
Craig Stadler
Paul Stankowski
Kenneth Staton
Darron Stiles
Dave Stockton, Jr.
David Sutherland
Kevin Sutherland
Hal Sutton
Phil Tataurangi
Roland Thatcher
Esteban Toledo
Kirk Triplett
Ty Tryon
Stan Utley
Vance Veazey
Grant Waite
Charles Warren
Brian Watts
Mike Weir
Jay Williamson
Garrett Willis
Dean Wilson
Mark Wilson
Willie Wood
Mark Wurtz
Cameron Yancey
Kaname Yokoo
Richard Zokol


4 Open Qualifying
180 Players in the Field
Alternates:
Mike Standly
Trevor Dodds
Gabriel Hjertstedt
Mike Springer
Scott Gump
D.A. Weibring
Dave Rummells
Michael Bradley
Dan Pohl

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Old 02-03-2003, 10:22 PM
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I to like Pat Perez this week will wait and see if I can find him in a good match-up.........
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Old 02-03-2003, 11:57 PM
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I am looking for Alex Cejka in a heads-up match and to win the whole thing at a big price.

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Old 02-04-2003, 01:40 AM
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Would like to see my cousin Shawn Kelly make the cut.

Robert Gamez, Andy Miller, Matt Gogel, Jerry Kelly, Jesper Parnevik, Loren Roberts have all done well here in past.

Will also make fututre play on Singh
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:52 AM
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Singh vs Phil Mickelson
101 Vijay Singh -120
102 Phil Mickelson +100
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Jim Furyk vs Davis Love II
103 Jim Furyk +115
104 Davis Love II -135
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Fred Couples vs Tom Lehman
105 Fred Couples +110
106 Tom Lehman -130
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Skip Kendall vs Kirk Triplett
107 Skip Kendall +155
108 Kirk Triplett -175
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Jerry Kelly vs Mike Weir
109 Jerry Kelly -110
110 Mike Weir -110
2/6/2003 9:00 AM KJ Choi vs Loren Roberts
111 KJ Choi -130
112 Loren Roberts +110
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Davis Love III vs Jerry Kelly
113 Davis Love III -150
114 Jerry Kelly +130
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Mike Weir vs Jim Furyk
115 Mike Weir -105
116 Jim Furyk -115
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Pat Perez vs Matt Gogel
117 Pat Perez -120
118 Matt Gogel +100
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Scott McCarron vs Kenny Perry
119 Scott McCarron -110
120 Kenny Perry -110
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Rob Pampling vs Tim Petrovic
121 Rob Pampling -120
122 Tim Petrovic +100
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Tim Herron vs Dudley Hart
123 Tim Herron -140
124 Dudley Hart +120
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Rocco Mediate vs KJ Choi
125 Rocco Mediate -120
126 KJ Choi +100
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Kirk Triplett vs Loren Roberts
127 Kirk Triplett -130
128 Loren Roberts +110
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Lee Janzen vs Steve Flesch
129 Lee Janzen -115
130 Steve Flesch -105
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Kevin Sutherland vs John Rollins
131 Kevin Sutherland +100
132 John Rollins -120
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Robert Gamez vs Rory Sabbatini
133 Robert Gamez -110
134 Rory Sabbatini -110
2/6/2003 9:00 AM Tom Lehman vs Brad Faxon
135 Tom Lehman -140
136 Brad Faxon
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:54 AM
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Golf
ANZ Championship: Match ups
Thu 2/6 S. Appleby vs P. Casey
06:00 AM 301 S. Appleby -150

302 P. Casey +130

Thu 2/6 J. Bickerton vs M. Lafeber
06:00 AM 303 J. Bickerton +105

304 M. Lafeber -125

Thu 2/6 G. Evans vs S. Leaney
06:00 AM 305 G. Evans +100

306 S. Leaney -120

Thu 2/6 M. Foster vs N. Dougherty
06:00 AM 307 M. Foster -110

308 N. Dougherty -110

Thu 2/6 R. Karlsson vs J. Moseley
06:00 AM 309 R. Karlsson +100

310 J. Moseley -120

Thu 2/6 P. Lawrie vs P. O'Malley
06:00 AM 311 P. Lawrie -110

312 P. O'Malley -110

Thu 2/6 P. Lonard vs C. Parry
06:00 AM 313 P. Lonard -145

314 C. Parry +125

Thu 2/6 P. Lonard vs A. Scott
06:00 AM 315 P. Lonard -135

316 A. Scott +115

Thu 2/6 I. Poulter vs N. O'Hern
06:00 AM 317 I. Poulter +100

318 N. O' Hern -120

Thu 2/6 C. Schwartzel vs J. Lucquin
06:00 AM 319 C. Schwartzel -120

320 J. Lucquin +100

Thu 2/6 A. Scott vs T. Bjorn
06:00 AM 321 A. Scott -130

322 T. Bjorn +110

Thu 2/6 D. Smail vs N. Fasth
06:00 AM 323 D. Smail -110

324 N. Fasth -110

AT&T Pebble Beach Matchups: Match ups
Thu 2/6 V. Singh vs P. Mickelson
06:00 AM 101 V. Singh -111

102 P. Mickelson +105

Thu 2/6 J. Furyk vs D. Love III
06:00 AM 103 J. Furyk +114

104 D. Love III -124

Thu 2/6 F. Couples vs T. Lehman
06:00 AM 105 F. Couples +116

106 T. Lehman -126

Thu 2/6 S. Kendall vs K. Triplett
06:00 AM 107 S. Kendall +153

108 K. Triplett -163

Thu 2/6 J. Kelly vs M. Weir
06:00 AM 109 J. Kelly -108

110 M. Weir -102

Thu 2/6 KJ. Choi vs L. Roberts
06:00 AM 111 KJ Choi -111

112 L. Roberts +101

Thu 2/6 D. Love III vs J. Kelly
06:00 AM 113 D. Love III -142

114 J. Kelly +132

Thu 2/6 M. Weir vs J. Furyk
06:00 AM 115 M. Weir -114

116 J. Furyk +104

Thu 2/6 P. Perez vs M. Gogel
06:00 AM 117 P. Perez -124

118 M. Gogel +114

Thu 2/6 S. McCarron vs K. Perry
06:00 AM 119 S. McCarron -107

120 K. Perry -103

Thu 2/6 R. Pampling vs T. Petrovic
06:00 AM 121 R. Pampling -116

122 T. Petrovic +106

Thu 2/6 T. Herron vs D. Hart
06:00 AM 123 T. Herron -123

124 D. Hart +113

Thu 2/6 R. Mediate vs KJ. Choi
06:00 AM 125 R. Mediate -109

126 KJ. Choi -101

Thu 2/6 K. Triplett vs L. Roberts
06:00 AM 127 K. Triplett -114

128 L. Roberts +104

Thu 2/6 L. Janzen vs S. Flesch
06:00 AM 129 L. Janzen +100

130 S. Flesch -110

Thu 2/6 K. Sutherland vs J. Rollins
06:00 AM 131 K. Sutherland +112

132 J. Rollins -122

Thu 2/6 R. Gamez vs R. Sabbatini
06:00 AM 133 R. Gamez -103

134 R. Sabbatini -107

Thu 2/6 T. Lehman vs B. Faxon
06:00 AM 135 T. Lehman -123

136 B. Faxon
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Old 02-05-2003, 05:50 AM
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Odds
all golfers have action
dead heat rules apply
Grant Waite (+12) 15/1
Gavin Coles (+13) 16/1
Alex Cejka (+10) 17/1
Tom Byrum (+12) 17/1
Peter Jacobsen (+12) 18/1
Paul Stankowski (+10) 18/1
David Berganio (+12) 18/1
Rod Pampling (+9) 19/1
Phil Tataurangi (+9) 19/1
Skip Kendall (+9) 20/1
Rory Sabbatini (+8) 20/1
Lee Janzen (+8) 20/1
Aaron Baddeley (+7) 21/1
John Rollins (+7) 21/1
Kirk Triplett (+7) 21/1
David Gossett (+8) 21/1
K.J.Choi (+6) 22/1
Matt Gogel (+6) 22/1
Jonathan Byrd (+7) 22/1
Brad Faxon (+6) 23/1
Scott McCarron (+5) 23/1
Rocco Mediate (+5) 23/1
Jerry Kelly (+4) 24/1
David Duval (+4) 24/1
Jim Furyk (+4) 24/1
Pat Perez (+5) 24/1
Mike Weir (+3) 25/1
Davis Love III (+3) 25/1
Vijay Singh (+1) 26/1
Phil Mickelson (scratch) 27/1

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Old 02-05-2003, 01:12 PM
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I like the interactives as far as winning the tourney. With the bulk of my bets on a Late Friday, mid Saturday.

Occasionally will take a flyer on someone before the tourney starts but its tough.

The head to head tourney matchups are the way to go.

Going with Mickelson over VJ this week
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Old 02-05-2003, 08:23 PM
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I think this event with no Tiger is one of the rare stops in which the field is a good play. They have 180 players, 30 - 50 more than normal, and none of the other "big names" are especially dominant at Pebble.
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Old 02-05-2003, 10:27 PM
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2 matchups for 1.5 units each is what I played.

Love -125 over Furyk
Perez -120 over Gogel

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Old 02-05-2003, 11:56 PM
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I to am on those g-father......good luck..........[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-06-2003, 12:45 AM
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Rock,

I would normally agree about the field, but every place I checked is offering horrible prices on the field, not to mention adding a few extra listed players.

***I just looked at all the players playing this week and there were about 60 I've never heard of out of the 180. On a normal week there might be 10 I don't know of out of 144. From what I could tell, the names were American Golfers that are unknown, maybe they qualified some way. I would like the fields chances better if they were guys from overseas that I wasn't too familar with, but had a decent game. I saw a couple from over there (Carl Peterson and Phillip Price), but didn't see many others. To me, this makes playing the field a worse play then normal, given there are only about 120 players I give a shot, and the odds seem to be worse than most weeks.***
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Old 02-06-2003, 04:31 AM
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The field is a bad bet this week at Pebble.

WSEX has this match-up and it looks good for Cejka. It was better when it was -130 just a while ago. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

G 17 2/6-9 (F) DAVID GOSSETT VS ALEX CEJKA (AT&T PEBBLE BEACH) (10:30 am ET)
Wager Id Outcome Strokes Money Line
9017 DAVID GOSSETT +115 Wager
9018 ALEX CEJKA -140 Wager
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Old 02-06-2003, 12:16 PM
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Alot of money on Perez this week. Have him over Rollins
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:52 PM
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I am playing Jerry Kelly, KJ Choi, Phil Mickelson, and Vijay Singh all to show

Kelly and Choi both have great odds!!!
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Old 02-06-2003, 08:35 PM
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Davis Love is a piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]
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Old 02-06-2003, 08:36 PM
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But so is Matt Gogel!!!!!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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