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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Mjulian

Condescend to a response? Don't debase yourself for me pal. And by the way, that ain't no Shakespeare either.



Other than the Downing Street Memo link, I see NO proof of any of the "facts" you claim. Nothing. No citations, footnotes, nada. Because it comes from your fingers on the keyboard makes it fact? Show me facts, don't regurgitate something you read on some website. If there's a transcript of a meeting between a US Diplomat and Saddam Hussein, let me see it in its entirety. Paraphrased hearsay is less than nothing. It's anti-matter that erodes the truth.



Show me the State Dept. stand-down directives, show me the FBI stand-down directives. Etc., etc.







Aly, good questions. I am very disapointed with the how poorly this war was conceived, planned and executed. As you know I was, and remain, strongly in favor of this action. If planned and executed properly, this war could have been a far more effective deterrent to the inhumanity inflicted on this planet by barbarians in the pursuit of their corrupted version of Islam. However, due to many factors, the majority (but not all) of which are Bush and his incompetent Cabinet's doing, it has become farcical. I have quite a laundry list that spares very few but it's late and I work NY hours and am up past my bedtime. Perhaps tomorrow I'll discuss this further.</end quote></div>



The problem with this "war" is simple. It was never a war. When you are attacked by a country, you obliterate them. When you are not attacked by a country you can't morally wipe them off the face of the earth. Iraq never had anything to do with 911. If they did there would be a big hole where Iraq used to be and no one would have said a word.

There was never a reason for this war or for you to support it. To say that we were threatened is a lie. To say that we will be better off because Iraq will be democratic is not only a lie, it a fantasy. Iran is a democracy. Good luck with that.

If GWdork would have just said, "hey, we're running low on oil and these assholes have a bunch, so we're gonna take it". I would've been fine with that.

Instead the asshole spent all of our money on fixing the very chaos he created. It's our money. Not his. In order to spend it he needs to convince congress that it is necessary. He lied to Congress to get the money. He cherry-picked intelligence to make his case. He knew the intelligence was bullshit. His dad was the head of the CIA. GW is a thief, liar and criminal. It is illegal to lie to Congress.

Lest you think I'm some kind of bleeding heart, I don't give a ***** about the Iraqi people. I give a ***** about Americans.