Blogguy, you can find specific examples of crime in every single industry. It is impossible to argue with your conclusions because in fact, yes, there have been cases or organized crime in gaming. There have been cases of organized crime in every industry known to man. Does that mean those industries should shut up and listen to the rhetoric the government would like to shove down our throats? No Blogguy ,it doesn’t. Does that mean those industry's should "showcase" those rare examples? No Blogguy, it doesn’t.
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Found this from the Sunday Times in London, written August 13, 2006. Not saying it's proof of anything...just posting what overseas journalists were reporting.
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I'm for regulated online gaming. I'm for this website creating a coherent vision that can be expressed in the debate. I'm against this website mis-characterizing the other side of the debate when we can win the debate on the facts alone. I'm against using name-calling or derogatory labeling when we can win the debate on the facts alone.
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If you are interested in winning on facts alone you would not support your arguments with articles followed up by a "not saying its proof of anything".
If you are interested in gathering the facts, please do. I suggest you start by interviewing JC. I will arrange that for you. Instead of suggesting that people at this site who have spent many years and thousands upon thousands of dollars trying to fight the rhetoric that the Government has tossed our way, are doing nothing right, perhaps you could take a kick at the can. Actually sit down and get your hands dirty instead of suggesting we may be doing it wrong.
Reading your posts oddly reminds me of the old.......”when did you stop beating your wife”...question.
If you want to create a coherent vision that can be expressed in a debate, create it. If you don’t like Hartley's approach, give it a shot yourself before criticizing others efforts, albeit constructive criticism.
I look forward to your factually based coherent vision to be published on the front page. You have 100% of this site's resources and support behind you. Between you and Hartley I am sure that we can arrive at something good.
Russ