Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:02:19 PM)
next year is going to be good
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Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:02:28 PM)
will the US send a decent team?
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:02:36 PM)
yeah, decent
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:02:44 PM)
the top team?
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:02:49 PM)
no, imho
BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:02:53 PM)
no
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:02:56 PM)
useless
jackfrost (Nov 16, 2005 9:02:59 PM)
Toledo JUST got a big turnover ,and the first half winner is looking great!
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:02 PM)
looks too much like Donovan + some average guys
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:06 PM)
what do you reckon it will be
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:06 PM)
McBride too old
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ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:18 PM)
No Ill got it back!
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:20 PM)
CHucky I mean for the Hoops
BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:24 PM)
No
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:28 PM)
oh
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:34 PM)
they are taking it more serious
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:37 PM)
its the world championshis next year
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:40 PM)
Coach K the coach
jackfrost (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:41 PM)
are u kidding me!
BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:43 PM)
Shaq, etc--won't play over the summer
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:51 PM)
probably true re Shaq
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thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:53 PM)
half time up
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:03:57 PM)
anyone watch toronto much, whats calderon playing like?
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:00 PM)
there's basically a 25-man roster
BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:06 PM)
They also won't want to play defense or clap their hands on the floor
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:07 PM)
they bring who's available
BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:14 PM)
Iverson will play
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:22 PM)
he's brutal imho
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:24 PM)
Iverson would be good I think
BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:28 PM)
I love Iverson
The_Major (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:28 PM)
ok are you ready to go Siros?
The_Major (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:31 PM)
p
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:35 PM)
sure
jackfrost (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:45 PM)
ToLedo winner first half baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:47 PM)
cash is up first fire away
The_Major (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:50 PM)
ok great, chatmaster
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:52 PM)
players that can rush thhe hoop fit good in that style of game
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:57 PM)
Just bear with me if i'm a little slow i'm doing the half time
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:04:59 PM)
sorry, will shut up now
The_Major (Nov 16, 2005 9:05:13 PM)
everyone please wait your turn so that its not a mess.
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:05:20 PM)
cash your turn
cash (Nov 16, 2005 9:05:42 PM)
My question concerns what your firm has planned in the short term for increasing in game action. Can you talk about sports exchanges and their future
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:06:38 PM)
one second please just took a 15 dime bet on toledo at the half
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:07:01 PM)
wow
jackfrost (Nov 16, 2005 9:08:04 PM)
I won 2500 on first half ,by just .5
Yzerman#19 (Nov 16, 2005 9:08:15 PM)
good evening everyone
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jackfrost (Nov 16, 2005 9:08:27 PM)
ya 19
Minnow (Nov 16, 2005 9:08:29 PM)
did that move the line?
ChuckyTheGoat (Nov 16, 2005 9:08:35 PM)
hello, Yzer
BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:08:43 PM)
what sportbook bet it???
jackfrost (Nov 16, 2005 9:08:51 PM)
it had too minnow
BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:09:02 PM)
just kidding guys--ignore me
jackfrost (Nov 16, 2005 9:09:02 PM)
thats why he is easy right
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:09:09 PM)
minnow they were 4 went 4-15 4.5
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:09:13 PM)
2 moves
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:09:13 PM)
Sorry guys I have to put up denver half time, but I'm ready now
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:09:34 PM)
cash please askyour question again thansk
stevo (Nov 16, 2005 9:10:09 PM)
there goes my question, i was going to ask if you do all NBA halftimes..LOL
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cash (Nov 16, 2005 9:10:28 PM)
it was concerning in game wagering ,will this maeket increase and soes sports echanges excite you
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:12:02 PM)
I believe the market will increase and it will be part of our offering in the future
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:13:17 PM)
dingle...you're up
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TTinCO (Nov 16, 2005 9:13:35 PM)
test
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:14:38 PM)
dingle u there?
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:14:41 PM)
Was wondering about what direction you see the book moving forward. Any plan to offer more European content and build our base there. Also any plans specifically to offer European Basketball, a market which is really big with European players, and a emerging market IMO
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:14:45 PM)
:)
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:14:49 PM)
yes sorry, slow typer
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BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:15:39 PM)
no
Ironlock (Nov 16, 2005 9:16:23 PM)
Is it me, or is everyone trying to sound like a reporter from the wash post, we have one of the best BM's in the bus, and no one wants to PICK HIS BRAIN?
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:16:23 PM)
Absolutely we are currently in the market for talent in this area
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:17:25 PM)
maybe I will come knocking when I have got my shit together LO ;)
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:17:35 PM)
no problem
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:17:42 PM)
capt your up
capt (Nov 16, 2005 9:17:44 PM)
first of all your the best book you and pinny in my opinion my question is very simple do you see any of the large books getting into trouble this year.with so many favs winning i sense trouble coming in some of the sportsbooks .also i believe there is now a glut of books out there ,
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:18:31 PM)
so no definate plans for now on afferings?
Dingle (Nov 16, 2005 9:18:38 PM)
sorry capt
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:19:45 PM)
I believe the trouble books are in the past and the books that have been around for a while are here to stay - what will continue to happen will be mergers and acquisitions
baus (Nov 16, 2005 9:19:56 PM)
baus here
capt (Nov 16, 2005 9:20:04 PM)
tx
pancho_sanza (Nov 16, 2005 9:20:06 PM)
Hi sick
baus (Nov 16, 2005 9:20:21 PM)
that is not me
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:20:31 PM)
pancho...fire away
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thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:21:45 PM)
Dingle - its definately in our plans we just want to make sure we do it right
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:22:03 PM)
panchi u playing halftimes>?>>
pancho_sanza (Nov 16, 2005 9:22:13 PM)
Sprio theres been lots of talk about how books are getting hurt by teasers and many players are now planning they're retirement around all the money they will make down the road on these cant lose bets. What has been Olympics experience this year booking teasers and to your mind, has anything changed in the NFL which will now make these a losing prop for the book going forward, talking two team 6 point NFL teasers.
pancho_sanza (Nov 16, 2005 9:22:21 PM)
Yes , that you TS?
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:22:53 PM)
:)
Ironlock (Nov 16, 2005 9:22:55 PM)
now there is a question!
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BuzzRavanaugh (Nov 16, 2005 9:23:27 PM)
great question
Chatmaster (Nov 16, 2005 9:23:37 PM)
panchi is a lifer
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:24:00 PM)
From my experiences there are years that are good, the teasers in years that aren't, this is one of those year that is good for the players but i dont see this continuing indefinitely
thegreek (Nov 16, 2005 9:24:29 PM)
this year you have an unusual amount of favorites winning outright in the NFL
pancho_sanza (Nov 16, 2005 9:24:39 PM)
no shit!
pancho_sanza (Nov 16, 2005 9:24:51 PM)
thanks
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next up my good friend mr buck
wow 43 in here now
nice crowd fellas
ty all for coming
hey greek, might you care to disclose your rationale for not allowing parlays on boxing/mma and any plans to allow them in the future ala 5dimes, carib, etc? (ps -chatmaster should be fired)
lot's of familiar names :)
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Our software wont allow it on the internet, but we do allow them over the phones
REALLY?
u have to know how to use a phone son
u have to have a phone son
lol
mr heem your turn sir
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I;ll just jack one of these high school kids
on those sort of events we dont allow large parlays
With Pinny and the exchanges pushing juice lower, and the SIA/Bodogs of the world spending tens of millions to go after the full-juice market, how does Olympic plan to compete going forward? Stay at full juice, or no?
I second the motion of chatmaster being fired
large in terms of you don't want to be offering 20-1+ payouts or large you dont want to get taking maximum bet (usually $500) parlays?
sorry mr heem
-np. followups are good.
We believe we can be competitive with both - we have a large call center, great customer service and full range of betting options
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Thegreek recently cut the bonus structure from a max of $1000 to a max of $250. Can you talk about the reasons for this, and also are there any plans of bringing back a higher limit in the future? Thx.
baus has no respect for the Master of chat
Buck_Swope - we limit the win amount which includes both
gotchya - thanks for the info
I thought I was after heem..........sorry
buck was in front baus...sorry for the confusion
im only here as an observer
baus please ask your question again
ty
Baus - We found we were getting a lot one "one deposit wonders" who would come in for the max bonus and then leave. This bonus was a one time only bonus for the season. Now we give $250 per month which benefits the player a lot more who is a loyal customer.
any follow up baus?
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crosby on a break away fuck
sorry
does Greek offer the monthly bonus even to players who are positive lifetime ?
yes
doner_kebab...welcome to mw chat...please fire away
The Crosby who baby;; Pitt +265 woohoooo
the crosby show.. i mean
Hi greek, can you give your view on the events resulting in your downgrade at Roberto's place?
there goes my question :D
I'm not sure he probably doesn't like me anymore
great answer
next question chatmaster
why wasn't the thing heard by MW panel?
doner, thats not why we are here
thanks
zztop your turn
Spiro, I absolutely love Olympic. There is only one problem Ihave with you and this is why I don't play there more. My favortie type of betting is in game wagering. WSEX offers it nightly and pinnacle offers it for big events such as MNF. Is there any chance you might begin adding it to your already extensive list of wagers? If so, when do you think it might be up? Thank you.
do people never get tired of all the forum whiny shit
geez
some people
i have a question
no dingle, they dont
seemed a reasonable question, players want to know what happens when there's an argument with a book
good question zztop
maybe, IMO I have seen enough of the greek to show them some trust when it comes to them dealing with disputes
Hasn't that race dispute been discussed ad nasuem?
Yes I did it in the baseball playoffs and I will be doing it the Major events like Monday night football, I just need some more help.
Thanks for coming and sorry to steer the question back to live/exchange betting. Was there a timetable for you guys bringing something forth and do you need talent in this area. I really think this is a burgeoning field and want to get involved.
Any chance you will do it for the bowl games?
basketball i really great in game bet
great fun to book or bet
gives both sides of the ounter a bit of excitement
or World Cup soccer
soccer is good
spiro,i love you and your sportsbook,however your racebook is terrible,why can't you improve it,you have very few tracks and your "off" times are way off,no rebates either
soccer one of the easier ones to book
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Now that I know you guys are interested in it so much I'll put more effort into putting these up.
chucky...your turn
Thank you very much
greek, how difficult has it been for you and other books to book NHL this year, given the new rules?
Grad saved TD
wow
score?
14-14
14 al
all
INT that looked like a pick-6
i thought so too chucky
Easier than all the previous years, it seems the numbers are good and it hasn't been easy for the bettors to pick winners.
ok, cool, greek. Thx, buddy.
dingle your turn sir
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case in point pittsburg tonight
i've done OK in pucks this year. but, the puck lines suck
reagrding payment methods, do you have any plans to offer UK Debit cards as a mthod for depositing. I ue this method and its ease of use and lack of charges is great for the customer
i got a question
i will announce your turn old timer
Re NHL its competitive which is all you can ask for in a league
if you have that it will be ok
Michael777 - we are actually testing race book soft ware on one of our sister books and if successful we plan on rolling it out at thegreek.
thanks
dingle u want to fire away agin
again
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Dingle - yes we will be offering these directly in the near term, but you can also use money bookers with your UK debit card.
really?
I will have to check that out
I thought I checked
nice to know you will have them
joey roll fire away
how important are these forums to your business. How much do forums weigh in on making decisions towards players and do you have a ranking on which forums you feel are more credable.
lol
Does the US have any ban card system similar to them?
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yes...Boberto's ranks no 374 just ahead of Rate My Rack
doner please
Spiro will the plans include the SOLO card?
Moneybookers does not support this card
We find the forums to be a good pulse of the industry, and we find them valuable in understanding what customers want. I feel the forums that keep constructive are the best ones.
a politically correct answer lol Thanks
Dingle - we will be offering UK debit direct shortly.
good stuff
lol
dinque your up sir
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what percentage of yearly profit is made from betting?why are your lines different then don best?if these are repeats sorry,just arrived..
nice competitive NCAA hoops today huh
:)
Betting is an insignifcant part of the business. There are too many copycats that sit on the donbest screen which can make it hard to get buy-back in some situations
i understand that but why am i paying them $500
greek-----do you look at the LVSC sendouts and then twik the #s in house???? or use several consultants???
i also am surprised by your firsr answer
Because overall its the best service out there
Donbest that is
sorry..........hit the wrong button
rolling out the red carpet for old_man...................................................................
had the red carpet all ready for yu sir.............
I dont look at LVSC sendouts, I use my own sources
i jumped ahead by accident
ty
next up the major
be here with us. My question is in regards to book mergers a acquisitions. If you had to predict what the landscape of our industry will look like in say,10 years, do you think that there will be a very few number of "superbooks" as opposed to todays environment of "the more the merrier" Do you see Olympic being one of these Superbooks? And as a follow up do you think that the juice will return to normal rates (20c) after all the majority of the smaller shops have been eliminated?
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pucks; 3 dog winners and 2 more leading :)
cash, just like the Wagertalk run, eh?
Yes, I see the same thing as happened in Vegas. There will be a few number of superbooks, and I definitely expect Olympic to be there.. :)
:) miss those days
and the follow up
its on the first question
The companies that end up going public we have seen a switch to a more corporate environment where the shops go back to normal rates
Thanks Spiros, thats what I think will happen as well
lakerfan your turn sir
Spiro, thank you for coming to chat.With the recent ruling by the BGLC that you are allowed to take bets, does that mean you will likely continue/stay with your main operations in Jamaica?
laker! He's back!
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The latest article in the newspaper down here was just a continuation of mis-represtation of facts. We have deep roots in Jamaica and plan on staying here. The whole situation was caused by one person's personal agenda and unfortunately just ended up causing us a lot of grief.
cool, ty for your answer
minnow your up ma'am
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Spiro, Laker beat me to the punch :) First of all, CONGRATS on your victory in court vs the BGLC. It seems to me that the Jamaican government would be pleased to have an honestly run business providing jobs and related income to it's coffers. Is this the end of all the harrassment?
sorry minnow ;)
Yes, this man has been exposed, and as more people learn the real truth, it will show that we were always doing the right thing.
last question in the queue from the newlywed mr nockeyguru
still it sucks that you had to fight for so long. again, congrats and thanks for being here
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hg u there?
yes
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fire away with your question for spiros
hg will be along in a second
Spiro: I had emailed you guys a few times over the past 18 months with regards to team totals. I asked why not -110 for some sports instead of -115 (nfl/ncaa etc)- and why not offer higher limits- it seems that a lot of people love betting team totals so why not give bettors what they want- I didn't really get much of an answer but then lo and behold pinny decided to offer them not at a btter price of -110 but at -105 and 3k limits to boot. Now IYO do they just have smarter people making their numbers or are they just being foolish?
come on kosar ask something :)
Ask something? I thought this was a porn room. WTF? That's a question.
please kosar
:)
Ohh, sorry, total clown
gfy
Pinnacle has a different marketing strategy than us, but it is just a matter of time and resources. As soon as we can recruit more help for these areas, we can be more aggressive.
We'll just wait for nobody to answer
if there are no further questions...we would like to thank spiros for his time this evening...
going once...
going twice...
Thanks very much Spiros
thx, Spiro, you're the man
thanks spiro
thanks spiro
got one
thakns spiros for your time
Your very welcome and thank you for your support over the years.
may i ask
shoot ab
thanks spiro, always a pleasure having you here in chat
Kinda off the topic. But as we all know you are one of the pioneers of the industry. Ever get tired of the daily grind. Ever consider doing something else.. If so what?
another career path perhaps?
car salesman?
Christ ,how cant anyone get tired of the grind in this bizness
Yes, the weekends are very tough on me, but this is in my blood.
Od, when say "get tired of the grind"...
how much of that is dealing with meatheads?
basicly 48 hour work weekends gotta kill ya .
during foots that is
Yes Saturdays is the worst
the BM's know
saturdays rock
I get in at 8 in the morning and I dont get off the chair till midnight
especialy when the rainbow warriors play :D
yep
midnight if you lucky
Thanks again to everyone, and enjoy the rest of your night.
yep, if your lucky
Did Toledo win the 2nd half?
cya spiro
gnite all
cya later