stevo (Oct 5, 2005 9:08:06 PM)
Hello Rick, thanks for coming a a special thanks for providing Majorwager with the Don Best service. Our readers really appreciate it. My question concerns the Don best steam plays. Posters often want to know how these plays are determined. Is there a formula that is proprietory or is it something you would let people know. It doesnt have to be answered here but maybe I could post the question in the forum if its OK.

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:10:03 PM)
There was a time when Don Best received the wiseguy plays before the public, but that is not the case any longer. Today, a Steam Play is sent out when our office sees a major line move happening. DBS2K users can get the same info using our Major Line Move alert system.

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 5, 2005 9:10:47 PM)
Excellent question stevo

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:10:55 PM)
any follow up?

stevo (Oct 5, 2005 9:11:01 PM)
So not necessarily a set forula. O.K. thanks Rick. Really appreciate you coming

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:11:18 PM)
My pleasure.

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:11:21 PM)
chucky you are up

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:11:23 PM)
If anybody has a question for Rick, please send me a PM. and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

ChuckyTheGoat (Oct 5, 2005 9:11:27 PM)
the free trial. Still available? Island Express, or whatever?

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:12:31 PM)
Yes it is. If you have never had one, you can go to our website and sign up. If you have had one in the past, we block you from getting another one, but I will be happy to set one up for anybody who emails me.

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:12:46 PM)
If anybody has a question for Rick, please send me a PM. and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

ChuckyTheGoat (Oct 5, 2005 9:12:46 PM)
ok, I had one about 3 years back

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:13:05 PM)
No problem, shoot me an email -

ChuckyTheGoat (Oct 5, 2005 9:13:11 PM)
ok, thx, pal

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:13:16 PM)

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:13:30 PM)
we have a question from the major

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:13:34 PM)
fire away russ

Minnow (Oct 5, 2005 9:13:36 PM)

the_major (Oct 5, 2005 9:14:31 PM)
Rick, since the purchase of DB by fun, what changes are to be expected in the future. I presume you have a plan in place for future developments?

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:17:01 PM)
would be clutch

clevfan (Oct 5, 2005 9:18:27 PM)

pmj18 (Oct 5, 2005 9:18:44 PM)

Oddessa (Oct 5, 2005 9:18:53 PM)
test 2

Oddessa (Oct 5, 2005 9:19:00 PM)

the_major (Oct 5, 2005 9:19:00 PM)
i think rick is typing

the_major (Oct 5, 2005 9:19:03 PM)

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:19:04 PM)
yes he is

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:19:10 PM)
Our first goal is to build up the Don Best site to be the ultimate sports information destination. It kills me to see people log into our service and then go to a site like covers to do their handicapping. We will also be making some strategic partnerships (MajorStats) with sites to provide them with unique content. The prior DB ownership was not interested in spending money on marketing our site, so that will be another area we will attack. But overall, we will be just doing more of the same.

the_major (Oct 5, 2005 9:19:40 PM)
i am very excited about the majorstats venture

the_major (Oct 5, 2005 9:20:01 PM)
I think we will have a very god synergy between MW and DB

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:20:09 PM)
buzz you are up

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:20:11 PM)
If anybody has a question for Rick, please send me a PM. and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 5, 2005 9:20:28 PM)
Rick thanks for participating--very excited about the majorstats venture--

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 5, 2005 9:20:35 PM)
My question will follow

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 5, 2005 9:20:43 PM)
when I think of it-- just kidding

the_major (Oct 5, 2005 9:21:17 PM)
while you are thinking Buzz. those reviews are awsome

clevfan (Oct 5, 2005 9:21:26 PM)
i have a question

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:21:52 PM)
While Buzz is typing… I hope majorstats becomes a living site the grows with the input of the posters

clevfan (Oct 5, 2005 9:21:59 PM)
Rick, in your opinion, what seperates you from your competitors?

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:21:59 PM)
clev...after zed :)

clevfan (Oct 5, 2005 9:22:07 PM)
whoops, sorry

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:22:10 PM)

Zed (Oct 5, 2005 9:22:32 PM)
Damn you woman!

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 5, 2005 9:22:41 PM)
I love the Don Best service and have used it for football and baskets and then just don't pay it---and see if I can afford it the following football season-- is this month to month deal okay and is the cheapers Don Best service a satisfactory substitute for us smaller (now) players???

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:22:44 PM)
3 more outs for the white sox

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:23:00 PM)
sledge looking for the boot

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:23:33 PM)
lol..sorry chartmaster...

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:23:35 PM)

clevfan (Oct 5, 2005 9:24:16 PM)
chatmaster is red sox fan

Yzerman#19 (Oct 5, 2005 9:24:26 PM)
0-2 to start the nhl season

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:24:27 PM)
We have quite a few customers that drop off after basketball. The Express Odds service is a great alternative. It gives you all of the same info, with a small delay.

Yzerman#19 (Oct 5, 2005 9:24:30 PM)
nice to see nothing has changed.

ChuckyTheGoat (Oct 5, 2005 9:25:54 PM)
Jagr 3-3

ChuckyTheGoat (Oct 5, 2005 9:26:05 PM)
obscene wrister

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:26:06 PM)
If anybody has a question for Rick, please send me a PM. and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:26:12 PM)
moneyline your up

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:26:14 PM)
fire away

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:26:16 PM)
i was always under the understanding that books on the screen are supposed to honor the line shown at the time of the call yet repeatedly books move the number when called and a line is brought to the attention that is a good number for the player.isnt that against the rules of what donbest established before allowing a book to be on their screen?it cheapens the service and makes many wonder why it is worth paying for if there is no accuracy of numbers.i have called repeatedly and been promised change but never delivered.

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:26:38 PM)
moneyline not a story you punk

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:26:41 PM)

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:28:33 PM)

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:28:38 PM)
lol (jk)

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:29:04 PM)
This is our most common complaint. We are cracking down on this and you should see a vast improvement starting immediately. We have taken a passive approach in the past, but just last week, called the books and told them that their lines had to be accurate. We have monitored them since last week, and not seen any problems.

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:29:37 PM)
catalina is the worst

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:29:48 PM)

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:29:54 PM)

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:30:06 PM)
For me too

Oddessa (Oct 5, 2005 9:30:07 PM)
Boisae State QB out was kinda late.

Zed (Oct 5, 2005 9:30:12 PM)
do you mean everytime?

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:30:14 PM)
Is this recent? Nobody has ever called me about them

Oddessa (Oct 5, 2005 9:30:20 PM)
but thats only bc I needed Boise

Oddessa (Oct 5, 2005 9:30:22 PM)

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:30:23 PM)
something like that zed

ChuckyTheGoat (Oct 5, 2005 9:30:28 PM)
Zabransky didn't play vs Haw?

Oddessa (Oct 5, 2005 9:30:29 PM)
otherwise satified

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:31:00 PM)
rick,i can give you a very good description of every book on the screen and a rating of whether or not they honor it

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:31:36 PM)
i have given every shop on the screen thousands of plays and could tell you which are the ones you need to fix

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:31:50 PM)
That would be very helpful. If we have to remove a book from our service, we will.

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:32:13 PM)
zed you are up

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:32:26 PM)
catalina has shown ZERO improvement since last week FYI

Zed (Oct 5, 2005 9:32:39 PM)
Hello Rick, I have never used the subscription service. Is there access to a database of historical lines and line movements that can be mined for information, trends, cycles, etc.?

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:32:58 PM)
I haven’t contacted them. I didn’t know they were having issues.

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:33:26 PM)
I thought you were dead Zed

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:34:02 PM)
Zed – The information is there, but not in a format that can be easily downloaded. We are pretty protective over our data.

Zed (Oct 5, 2005 9:34:04 PM)
I was resurrected ML

Zed (Oct 5, 2005 9:34:14 PM)
gimme my bike back

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:34:32 PM)
clev your turn

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:34:43 PM)
If anybody has a question for Rick, please send me a PM. and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

Zed (Oct 5, 2005 9:34:50 PM)
that's too bad rick

clevfan (Oct 5, 2005 9:34:52 PM)
rick, what sets you apart from you competition?

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:35:59 PM)
Rangers 5-3 over Philly with 8 min left wow

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:36:01 PM)
who loves hockey overs?

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:36:24 PM)
free money

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:36:47 PM)
play every over and every dog

Aces&Bases (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:01 PM)
anyone want to buy a really big email list?

ChuckyTheGoat (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:06 PM)
WHEN did the Rangers get hossa?

capt (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:08 PM)
love the overs early in the season moneyline

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:20 PM)
during the offseason

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:28 PM)
until the lines are 7

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:29 PM)

ChuckyTheGoat (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:35 PM)
yeah, but he was traded to Atl

capt (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:35 PM)
white sox win game 2

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:43 PM)
how long will it take until we start seeing 7 on hockey totals

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:46 PM)
chartmaster kick him out

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:50 PM)

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:57 PM)
hes a bud sledge

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:37:58 PM)
Not to piss off Mike… There are multiple factors. Our technology is far superior to what others have tried. We have direct connection with the sportsbooks and they push their changes to us, which is much faster than pulling an xml feed. We have a staff of over 25 employees researching and monitoring all events and players. And then something they just don’t have and that is our 15 years of experience.

capt (Oct 5, 2005 9:38:09 PM)
a month at least moneyline i think

clevfan (Oct 5, 2005 9:38:53 PM)
thanks rick

moneyline (Oct 5, 2005 9:38:56 PM)
then it will be a great month capt

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:39:04 PM)
timbo your turn

timbo37 (Oct 5, 2005 9:39:30 PM)
Rick, why is the Don Best website down tonight?

stevo (Oct 5, 2005 9:40:06 PM)
Mine has been up and running all day. Its not don best

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:40:09 PM)
home page working for me

stevo (Oct 5, 2005 9:40:12 PM)
somebody else asked this

sledge (Oct 5, 2005 9:40:13 PM)
gettin ready 4 chat?

capt (Oct 5, 2005 9:40:35 PM)
mines up also stevo and timbo

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:40:45 PM)
Look at the post on the forum, there is a link to an article explaining what happen. Basically two providers got into a fight and blocked each others traffic, so some people are not able to get to some sites.

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:40:56 PM)
not cogent i hope rick

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:41:39 PM)
cogernt making news again LOLOL

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:42:00 PM)
We use Level 3 and they were one of the companies.

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:42:21 PM)
they cut off cogent...this has happened to them a couple of times in europe recently as well

timbo37 (Oct 5, 2005 9:42:22 PM)

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:42:34 PM)
they overload the peering points

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:42:55 PM)
To make things worse, Cogent is our backup

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:43:00 PM)
and the other carriers then force the traffic thru public rather than private peering points

timbo37 (Oct 5, 2005 9:43:15 PM)
How long is this going to last?

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:43:21 PM)
they have destroyed the markt for bandwidth

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:43:22 PM)
look at the big brain on cm

timbo37 (Oct 5, 2005 9:43:52 PM)
Thanks, Rick

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:44:01 PM)
timbo - unkown. are you trying to log into our service or get to our site?

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:44:12 PM)
If anybody has a question for Rick, please send me a PM. and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

timbo37 (Oct 5, 2005 9:44:15 PM)
I go to

timbo37 (Oct 5, 2005 9:44:18 PM)
then log in

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:44:44 PM)
call 702-579-7920, i think they have an alternate ip you can use.

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:44:49 PM) a traceroute and see how you get must be connecting to cogent as some poont

timbo37 (Oct 5, 2005 9:44:55 PM)

timbo37 (Oct 5, 2005 9:44:58 PM)

timbo37 (Oct 5, 2005 9:45:17 PM)
I will put on my techie hat if the call does not work

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:45:23 PM)
if there are no further questions for rick...i would like to thank him for stopping by this evening

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:45:32 PM)
going once...

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:45:37 PM)
going twice...

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 5, 2005 9:45:58 PM)
Thanks Rick

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:46:02 PM)
big round of applause for rick...and we can finally let mike into the chat room:)

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 5, 2005 9:46:10 PM)

the_major (Oct 5, 2005 9:46:12 PM)
thanks Rick, great service

chatmaster (Oct 5, 2005 9:46:15 PM)
kicking and screaming

Rick_-_Don_Best (Oct 5, 2005 9:46:44 PM)
my pleasure everybody, i look forward to doing it again.