adam (Oct 19, 2005 8:51:38 PM)
HI JOHN
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:56:43 PM)
Hey, I'm here!
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:56:51 PM)
youre early
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:57:00 PM)
Yeah and I'm eating too
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:57:21 PM)
But I don't have enough for everyone
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:57:47 PM)
not nice sir
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:58:14 PM)
we usually get going 10 or so after the hour...fashionably late arriving crowd
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:58:33 PM)
And we're going againt the game tonight as well
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 8:59:04 PM)
evening all.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:59:16 PM)
Good evening
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:59:29 PM)
what game?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:59:38 PM)
thought the astros won the other night
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:00:41 PM)
OMG Gradysfalcon is here. I am honored and enjoy ALL of your posts
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:05 PM)
Ooops, he left
Minnow (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:11 PM)
scared him :)
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:14 PM)
Evening kids
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:22 PM)
Buzzy
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:23 PM)
Hello sir!
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:25 PM)
gents and lady
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:26 PM)
hey buzz
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:29 PM)
rusty
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:42 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:48 PM)
Hello Gents and lady and Yzer
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:48 PM)
Does anybody serve drinks in this chat thing?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:56 PM)
:)
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:57 PM)
What do you need sir
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:04 PM)
Anything on the rocks
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:06 PM)
Scotch, Vodka
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:06 PM)
watch it buzzy, I'll run your credit card bill through the roof.
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:14 PM)
Good luck with that
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:17 PM)
LOL
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:30 PM)
so russy, how about those MW jerseys.
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:48 PM)
they would be cool
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:09 PM)
How about the Major Wager male bikinis or "banana hammocks"
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:16 PM)
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:21 PM)
I'll wear one at the next Gaming Control meeting if you send one to me
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:30 PM)
sounds good
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:35 PM)
I sure hope you mean jersey pete :)
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:35 PM)
the jersey not the bikini
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:36 PM)
Get me and Oddessa wearing them
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:36 PM)
just dont tell them where you got it
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:53 PM)
lol
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:07 PM)
well pete I hope we get some turnout
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:16 PM)
baseball game kills these chats
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:17 PM)
They wouldn't let me wear my Majorwager hat at a World Poker Tour event--can you believe that??
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:25 PM)
they woudnt?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:36 PM)
It doesn't matter to me, I was hoping Reno would make it, but other than that, I'm glad to be herre
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:38 PM)
no logos
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:39 PM)
no logos of poker site
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:48 PM)
I told them it wasn't a poker site
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:49 PM)
mw isnt poker site
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:52 PM)
nimrods
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:52 PM)
reno's on a date
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:03 PM)
a date or on a mission?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:04 PM)
reno is walking his programmer
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:14 PM)
or at the doctor
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:25 PM)
a rash
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:29 PM)
ED
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:34 PM)
after returning from argentina
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:35 PM)
E.D.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:47 PM)
Could be ED too
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:08 PM)
that guy is funnier than shxt I think-- can't believe what he posts sometimes
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:25 PM)
i dont think we should post transcripts of chats
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:27 PM)
because
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:41 PM)
all I hear the next day on PM is...when is the chat going up
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:49 PM)
so people dont come and naturally bitch
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:50 PM)
show up if u want to see it
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:56 PM)
ya thats the best
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:01 PM)
I think turnout is low because of chatmaster.
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:08 PM)
:)
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:13 PM)
I didn't even think about it or I wouldn't post the stuff about reno
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:26 PM)
not fair to talk about a guy behind his back
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:29 PM)
ya know
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:31 PM)
pete...there was a comment in the forum about eugene...is he fully lecensed?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:33 PM)
:)
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:35 PM)
don't worry about that buzz
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:41 PM)
I was about to write something then thought this will go on the archive and I better not
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:42 PM)
russ, stevo, minnow and I make fun of you all the time
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:50 PM)
really not a big deal
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:58 PM)
Eugene is licensed however LVSC is not
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:02 PM)
F You Yzer
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:06 PM)
:)
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:08 PM)
LOL
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:15 PM)
lvsc 'still pending' since the sale?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:39 PM)
I believe the sale has yet to go through. That's over two years now
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:54 PM)
the kiddie porn thing had to make you laugh
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:06 PM)
Really?????
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:11 PM)
after all their strongarming efforts
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:12 PM)
However I may have sped up their process
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:27 PM)
No comment on that
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:30 PM)
:)
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:36 PM)
well said
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:47 PM)
ill say they got what they deserved
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:12 PM)
Isn't Pete getting licensed a pretty big deal in the industry
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:18 PM)
I think so
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:32 PM)
I do too
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:41 PM)
will books subscribe to more than one provieder?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:49 PM)
Do you know the difference between having a license and not having one?
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:55 PM)
no
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:56 PM)
$100k
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:22 PM)
A week before I got mine, my meetings were at Starbucks, a week after, the 10th floor Suite at Caesars
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:39 PM)
minnow can you post the link to dl java
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:41 PM)
u have to wear a suit now?
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:42 PM)
very good
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:45 PM)
lets not bash starbucks.
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:46 PM)
someone is asking in the messhall
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:49 PM)
i forget it
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:50 PM)
sometimes
Minnow (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:02 PM)
ok
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:04 PM)
Nobody wears suits in vegas
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:14 PM)
http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:26 PM)
warm up suits buzzy
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:34 PM)
hehe
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:43 PM)
I've seen a few leisure suits
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:13:09 PM)
how big is your staff pete?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:14:04 PM)
Right now it's still pending. I need OK's from Gaming but what I can tell you is Tom Vanderhoof and Cesar Robaina for sure. I expect two more full time oddsmakers by the time I start, maybe one more
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:14:33 PM)
I've had a lot of people calling me about openings
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:14:42 PM)
where has ceasar been since he left lvsc?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:09 PM)
He's on his own working independantly for a variety of customers
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:12 PM)
At home
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:21 PM)
That guy is awesome
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:26 PM)
yup he sure is
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:27 PM)
He can't wait to get back in the mix
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:34 PM)
glad to see you guys together again
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:51 PM)
just got to bring the one back from the indian ocean ;)
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:05 PM)
Tom is an excellent college number man. He set me up with the best college football numbers I've ever had before the season started
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:16 PM)
he is sleeping right now
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:33 PM)
Minnow promised me if I came to chat, she would take off her top
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:39 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:47 PM)
its off
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:50 PM)
Tom is an excellent odsmaker with the college foots and hoops.
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:58 PM)
where has he worked?
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:17:09 PM)
good question- I don't know him
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:17:32 PM)
LVSC fpr 6 years, before that, the honorable LeRoys for a decade and the Hard Rock before coming over to LVSC
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:17:58 PM)
he's not the big guy with the cherry tattoo on his forearm?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:18:17 PM)
I hope not, but I'll check his arm when I see him tomorrow
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:18:17 PM)
used to work with herbie
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:18:28 PM)
No, that's not him
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:18:33 PM)
good :)
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:05 PM)
Who's got a Q?
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:20 PM)
I do
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:20 PM)
i do
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:26 PM)
go ahead bg
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:28 PM)
bg first
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:32 PM)
girls first
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:36 PM)
haha
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:40 PM)
bg is a girl
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:40 PM)
ty
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:57 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:14 PM)
In 1954 who played 1st base for the Indians
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:20 PM)
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:29 PM)
Al Rosen?
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:39 PM)
lol
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:45 PM)
Giants win!!!!
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:48 PM)
Pete K, what do you think of the CGF? do you think I could work for you? thanks.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:59 PM)
CGF?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:07 PM)
dont bother
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:16 PM)
I am officially buried
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:27 PM)
lol, sorry
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:35 PM)
CGF---lol
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:38 PM)
Pete, if you could spend a minute and tell us what exactly the license allows you to do that you were unable to do before.
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:39 PM)
that was good
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:48 PM)
jason lane
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:22:18 PM)
Well, I have a few things in progress right now, two of which I can't talk about now as they are very proprietary...
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:22:51 PM)
but what it does allow me to do is accept checks from casinos for this type of work.
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:23:05 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:23:18 PM)
Wow, I typed that a long time ago
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:23:44 PM)
Does that mean LVSC can't accept checks from casinos??
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:23:47 PM)
so up until now you simply worked for people out of Nevada?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:24:48 PM)
LVSC is grandfathered in and can work without a license for the meantime. They will have to get their license soon I've been told. I have never worked for any offshore or internet book
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:08 PM)
Can I ask a really stupid question??
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:12 PM)
Yes
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:36 PM)
What kind of work will you do-- I assume consulting am I right??
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:38 PM)
is there any other kind from you Buzz?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:54 PM)
that was a stupid question buzz
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:06 PM)
or if you can't talk about that that is fine
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:07 PM)
Buzz is ruining this chat BOOOOOOOOOO Buzz
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:07 PM)
Well, primarily, the same I did for LVSC. Provide odds for anything the sportsbooks want
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:22 PM)
Thats what I was looking for--thanks
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:48 PM)
how much does a casino pay a month for a service?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:50 PM)
roghly
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:54 PM)
roughly
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:58 PM)
I'm developing a great new revenue stream for the books which may be ready very soon. Something very unique
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:22 PM)
It depends on the casinos size and needs
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:30 PM)
mvbski has a question for pete...fire away sir
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:31 PM)
Did I dodge that one ok?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:31 PM)
average
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:45 PM)
you cant move on till we get a figure :)
pmj18 (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:50 PM)
yes
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:54 PM)
can you name any of the people that will be working for you ?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:04 PM)
more than a ticket writer
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:12 PM)
5k?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:16 PM)
10K, 3k?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:19 PM)
roughly
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:57 PM)
mvbski is a little late, please check the previous chat, by the way mvbski how are you? Long time no hear.
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:11 PM)
i filled him in
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:15 PM)
Tom Vanderhoof and Cesar Robaina
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:15 PM)
mvbski, how does it feel to be ranked at #2 on my top offshore world posters list?
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:18 PM)
all is good Pete and I wish you the best of luck
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:27 PM)
just #2
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:27 PM)
Thank you sir!
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:30 PM)
mjulian is up
Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:37 PM)
Hey Pete, thanks for doing this chat. Generally speaking, how much of a line reflects the analysts probability assignment, and how much reflects what you believe the public will pay?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:40 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:30:33 PM)
Making the odds is not rocket science. My standard deviations are the range of numbers I get from my team, not a computer readout or the like...
pmj18 (Oct 19, 2005 9:30:55 PM)
even the major, cm
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:30:59 PM)
Selecting a winner is much tougher than making the odds.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:31:20 PM)
You're battling a losing percentage all of the way
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:31:46 PM)
I have the juice on my side and lots of take-out when setting up futures and things like that
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:32:22 PM)
There is a lot of math, but most oddsmakers, or good ones, have a really good feel for this sort of stuff
Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 9:32:56 PM)
OK, so let's say your guy comes up with USC -19 as his line, but everyone knows that folks will lay 24. What do you send the books for a line?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:32:58 PM)
Eugene is a great example of a guy who knows the players (athletes) and the bettors
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:33:13 PM)
That's a good question
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:33:24 PM)
Let's say the range of numbers come out like this...
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:33:30 PM)
19, 16, 22, 24
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:34:05 PM)
I made the 19 lets say. So that's when the discussion comes into play. Who is thinking what?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:34:25 PM)
So let's say the guy who made the 24 has a strong case for his high number...
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:34:53 PM)
I may say, ya know, I was thinking 19 but I was hoping someone would have higher, let's go with the high number
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:35:18 PM)
It's nothing more than that but communication during this time is critical....
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:35:30 PM)
I don't want someone to say 16 and not have an opinion.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:35:48 PM)
Why 16? What were you looking at that caused such a low number?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:36:30 PM)
It goes like that? These are the round table discussions that drove Roxy crazy sometimes. I had to douse my laughter sometimes
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:36:38 PM)
! not ?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:37:01 PM)
Does that help?
Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 9:37:33 PM)
yes I gotcha. it sounds like you factor the public's appetite somewhat and don't want to sell to low
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:04 PM)
mvbski has another for ya pete
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:07 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:18 PM)
will you send out two sets of numbers like LVSC does, his number and the consensus number
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:22 PM)
I have directors now who sometimes put out a line ust to see which way they take a first hit and report to me. It's a good indicator
Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:23 PM)
I knew I couldn't trust that goddamned Rangers play
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:03 PM)
No. There is one line that The Sports Club (nice name!) sends out, but if any of my clients want to see the full range of numbers, they are very welcome
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:31 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:32 PM)
I don't get that two sets of numbers
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:38 PM)
I never saw the reason to send out two sets of numbers
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:48 PM)
Sounds suspicious
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:56 PM)
like his opinion is better than his staffs ?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:03 PM)
No comment
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:06 PM)
:)
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:07 PM)
LOL
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:10 PM)
buck space is up
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:24 PM)
hey Pete I have an question similar to Mjulian
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:28 PM)
ok
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:28 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:31 PM)
gonna throw an example at you
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:37 PM)
shoot
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:45 PM)
UCONN-Rutgers foots this weekend
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:55 PM)
k
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:41:07 PM)
Uconn on their third string qb and are a 3pt dog
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:41:22 PM)
k
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:41:25 PM)
with their first string they are probably a 3 to 6 pt fav
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:41:54 PM)
we were looking at 3, 3 1/2
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:42:35 PM)
do you try to assign pt values to players at that level or do you make that line reversal based on the "oh shit uconn is playing some unknown freshman" and public will bury rutgers?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:42:54 PM)
lol, actually, you're close on the latter...
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:43:46 PM)
so truthfully you really do not even try to cap this new qb or if he is any good?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:43:53 PM)
I don't have a set point amount per player, but I think all of us have a feel how much a player is worth on the line. But sometimes the media shock of the news causes an overplay...
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:44:33 PM)
that's where the wise guys know how to play it back. I'm aleays telling directors not to over react to the news.
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:44:56 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:45:03 PM)
thanks Pete
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:45:07 PM)
Take the game off the board, maybe don't chase what's out there and put the game back up after we've found out what's going on
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:45:26 PM)
Sure
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:17 PM)
Do I have time to run to the fridge and get a beer?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:25 PM)
as long as u share
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:27 PM)
only if you get me one too
sledge (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:27 PM)
get me one
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:29 PM)
brb
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:34 PM)
bunch of drunks here
sledge (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:35 PM)
lol bucky
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:39 PM)
i have a question
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:42 PM)
ok
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:42 PM)
look who'se yapping
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:43 PM)
can i go now?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:44 PM)
back
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:53 PM)
yes please....GO
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:53 PM)
small studio pete?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:00 PM)
No fast runner
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:02 PM)
lol
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:17 PM)
Cookie is that you?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:22 PM)
major fire away
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:23 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:40 PM)
pete, in the licensing prosess what is the most difficult part. and secondly , do you have to proive you are a capable linesmaker and if so how do you do that
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:48:03 PM)
please excuse my typos :)
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:48:09 PM)
The most difficult part was the intrusiveness into your private life
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:48:29 PM)
can you exand on that?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:49:06 PM)
I mean everything was open game in my life for the past 20 years, fortunately, I workd for LVSC during that time and that was an excellent start to the investigation
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:49:35 PM)
bank/phone records etc?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:49:55 PM)
yes, what were they looking for? ties to org crime? stuff like that?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:50:04 PM)
Bank accounts, checks that were written 6 years ago, how long have I been with Jessy, my girlfriend, they came to my house and checked my personal emails, that sort of stuff
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:50:08 PM)
cards just got fukked
sledge (Oct 19, 2005 9:50:26 PM)
big time
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:50:37 PM)
Yes, any ties to anyone that they would deem unsuitable.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:06 PM)
As far as how good I was as an oddsmaker, I guess the amount of business I'll get will answer that for them
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:21 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:22 PM)
no offence, but living in begas doing what you do for 20 years, how do you stay away from people that would seem unaceptable?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:36 PM)
to them anyways
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:51 PM)
and are you especially careful now who you speak with and associate with?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:05 PM)
I live a boring life, my girlfriend is a cop and Sargeant in the Air Force, I surround myself with those people and that always looks good
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:31 PM)
just be glad scott moved :)
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:33 PM)
does she handcuff you somtimes, and if so what did gaming think of this
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:39 PM)
sorry coudnt resist :)
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:55 PM)
Very careful who I deal with Major. I have to. I do know lots of those people that they would think is unsuitable, but I now have to watch myself and use common sense in all of my dealings
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:19 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:31 PM)
must be a tough to do that, but I guess it becomes easy after time, or easier.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:32 PM)
Handcuffs are the first things guys joke about when I say that
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:42 PM)
but let me tell you, they hurt
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:46 PM)
:)
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:50 PM)
ok im done
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:52 PM)
Pete, can you get me a DP here, thanks?
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:57 PM)
ill get back to the money question later
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:01 PM)
get furry ones
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:12 PM)
what's the count?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:18 PM)
full
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:21 PM)
3 run Jack coming up
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:22 PM)
pitch low and away
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:54 PM)
mvb...fire away sor
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:57 PM)
Tony is wearing sun glasses
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:10 PM)
Pete Did i read that you will be working with Eugene some
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:14 PM)
Larussa that is
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:15 PM)
GDP....you heard it right here!
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:32 PM)
one run
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:38 PM)
3-1
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:41 PM)
awful toss
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:42 PM)
I haven't talked to Eugene in ages
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:54 PM)
throw sucked as well
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:06 PM)
Oh I thought i read that you were my mistake
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:07 PM)
I don't know what he's doing now other than working for LVSC
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:32 PM)
he makes the best Hockey numbers there are
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:48 PM)
Great hockey, NBA and baseball lines
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:57 PM)
absolutely the best there
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:57:07 PM)
and has some great injury info
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:57:22 PM)
I would always follow his Hockey leans
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:57:29 PM)
loves his hockey too, lives for it
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:57:44 PM)
He goes nuts when he watches on TV
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:03 PM)
many times he would hit me when we watched hockey
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:12 PM)
it hurt
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:27 PM)
I don't doubt it but he's much calmer now, does yoga I hear
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:29 PM)
rusty :)
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:34 PM)
last I heard he was suppling numbers to Stations is he not doing that anymore ?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:36 PM)
i never knew
jamesgaines (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:54 PM)
who puts out the strongest hockey #'s offshore now?
jamesgaines (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:01 PM)
Fernando?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:04 PM)
I don't know his persoanl accounts anymore to tell you the truth, he sure did a while ago
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:28 PM)
When I was with Stations I knew he was then
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:36 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:55 PM)
There were a lot of major strip locations that wanted his numbers fir sure. With all of the consolodation, I don't know where that's put him
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:02 PM)
(sp)
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:18 PM)
Pete, do you deal with NASCAR lines at all?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:25 PM)
Yes
sledge (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:31 PM)
bucky kills nascar
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:40 PM)
I do the futures and 10 matchups per week
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:42 PM)
nascar kills bucky
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:43 PM)
(sorry for bypassing chatmaster)
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:52 PM)
2 questions then:
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:54 PM)
james has a question pete
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:55 PM)
ok
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:04 PM)
buck...
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:09 PM)
Buck wait ur turn
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:15 PM)
james first then buck the buck
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:16 PM)
1) where do you come up with the matchups from? based on public interest?
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:18 PM)
or elce....
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:20 PM)
sorry
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:24 PM)
I withdraw
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:26 PM)
kick bucky out
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:27 PM)
james fire away
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:39 PM)
set him on fire
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:49 PM)
I protest the pullout
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:56 PM)
and pray
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:02:04 PM)
I like to matchup the big names that have public appeal, but I also like to have big favorites to mix it up a bit, no real formula though
sledge (Oct 19, 2005 10:02:35 PM)
now start studying bucky
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:02:41 PM)
There's always adjustments after the qualifying sessions of course
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:07 PM)
ok since jimmy is quiet.........
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:13 PM)
fire away buck
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:20 PM)
he just did
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:39 PM)
That's where you players could capitalize, hit the places that keep up their matchups during qualifying and hit them before they make any changes
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:47 PM)
chatmaster are you related to chinamaster?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:00 PM)
u want to get booted again son?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:05 PM)
keep it up
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:12 PM)
What about Margarat Cho's A_smaster
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:14 PM)
yea boot him
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:15 PM)
2) what factors do you base your openers on? past performance? recent races? do you factor in a dale jr or tony strwart fandom into your opener?
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:50 PM)
Buck do you want him to just give you his power ratings??
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:54 PM)
With this new format, you can always look at a variety of things...
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:07 PM)
Who's getting or needs to get into that final 10...
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:17 PM)
I say who ever has the fastest car will win...no
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:24 PM)
Where do they stand historically at that track, that's real important
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:29 PM)
bg, take the mets tomorrow.
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:37 PM)
Buzzy there are a TON of ways to handicap nascar - just curious how the pros develop their openers
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:05 PM)
Jeff Gordon likes that northern Cal track with lots of curves, he's very successful there
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:32 PM)
Others like and perform well at other venues. You need to know who's successful at what tracks and who's going good
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:38 PM)
pete will you put out more nascar matchups and props than Stations ?
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:39 PM)
do you think qualifying matchups are typically "less sharp" lines than the actual race?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:39 PM)
Jeff Gordon is not going good!
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:07:11 PM)
Buck that's a tough one
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:07:37 PM)
It depends on who's doing the lines and if they know what they're doing?
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:07:49 PM)
I will do them :)
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:07:52 PM)
mvb, how many matchups does the Stations do?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:00 PM)
certain drivers tend to qualify well
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:05 PM)
and win busch races
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:08 PM)
true chatmaster
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:11 PM)
10-15 a race
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:25 PM)
I guess I could do more if they wanted more
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:41 PM)
he only sends me his stuff when he remembers to
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:50 PM)
I believe Micah is their NASCAR guy and he does a lot for Stations
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:00 PM)
yes you are correct
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:12 PM)
He's a good man
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:25 PM)
yes we worked together for a few years
bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:32 PM)
4-1
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:39 PM)
Pete, why do you think nascar O/U's are not more mainstream?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:40 PM)
He's Chucky II
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:44 PM)
but he has a A Hole for a boss
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:04 PM)
Easy there. I am friends with AM
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:14 PM)
Well...
mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:24 PM)
I use to call him connect a dot
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:24 PM)
For certain, it's a wiseguy play
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:52 PM)
The schmo off the street isn't even looking that way
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:11 PM)
The guy who's looking is the guy who's betting
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:19 PM)
we have a question from #21
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:36 PM)
fire away son
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:40 PM)
nOT MANY OF THOSE CASUAL PLAYERS ARE LOOKING AT nascar
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:49 PM)
thanks Pete
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:51 PM)
Sorry about the CAPS
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:07 PM)
Pete, I apologize if this has been covered, but what is the reaction to the rule changes in hockey?
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:09 PM)
terrible question Franchise - simply awful
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:21 PM)
(kidding)
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:24 PM)
Wait and see on both sides of the counter
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:35 PM)
But the scoring is leveling off already
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:40 PM)
i screened it first buck
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:02 PM)
For every rule change hockey has employed, it takes a few weeks for theplayers and coaches to adjust
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:25 PM)
and the refs
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:26 PM)
I don't suspect we'll have these high a totals in the near future
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:27 PM)
how much time is spent on NHL lines? like 10 minutes?
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:45 PM)
lol....no, it's difficlut
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:46 PM)
because it seems to me it's just throw up a 6 -130 and some games throw up a 6.5 -110
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:14:20 PM)
What I don't like is the places that log the 1 1/2 lines instead of the ML
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:14:54 PM)
any chance of 60 minute wagering?
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:06 PM)
because I really miss the -.5 +.5
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:13 PM)
I want my data in ML form not the obscured goal lines on every game
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:24 PM)
Yeah, fir sure
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:26 PM)
for
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:37 PM)
to have to take a -250 fav at -250 instead of -.5 -160 sucks.. glad to hear 60 mins on the way :)
Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:39 PM)
both should be offerred
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:51 PM)
We haven't had a request yet, but I can see it
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:16:23 PM)
chris fire away
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:16:36 PM)
thanks Pete.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:16:36 PM)
Take -.5 -160over the -250. That goal line is like -210
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:16:55 PM)
So far the internets are way off in their conversions
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:17:03 PM)
Really bad lines
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:17:46 PM)
Pete why does Vegas do College Baseball lines when nobody there has a clue,example Harvard-Fullerton Gm
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:18:22 PM)
Well college baseball is really reserved for the College World Series, I don't see it elsewhere do you?
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:18:35 PM)
Stardust etc
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:18:49 PM)
My man Tom Vanderhoof is great with college baseball, I have great confidence in his lines
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:18:49 PM)
Being Honest nobody in Vegas has a Clue on it
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:04 PM)
trust me offshore copied what I put up
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:19 PM)
Harvard + 210 vs Fullerton was worst line this decade
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:30 PM)
But you're right, it seems everyone is an "expert" when it falls into play that time of year
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:33 PM)
ask anyone who know College Baseball
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:39 PM)
Yup
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:55 PM)
Oly did a good job with there numbers for sure
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:08 PM)
Only put up Gm's I liked
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:21 PM)
That's the way to do it for that stuff
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:43 PM)
Thanks
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:50 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:58 PM)
I don't have the same luxury as Chris does at Oly
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:21:09 PM)
He can pretty much do what he wants
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:21:19 PM)
If I get a request, I'm compelled to do it
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:21:36 PM)
I wish I had your angle
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:17 PM)
Do I have time to get another beer?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:26 PM)
3
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:27 PM)
2
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:27 PM)
1
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:31 PM)
bak yet?
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:38 PM)
unprofessional chatmaster.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:43 PM)
back
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:45 PM)
Pete, take all the time you need son
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:54 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:06 PM)
how's the game going?
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:14 PM)
3-1 b6
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:19 PM)
man on 2 2 out
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:23 PM)
4-1 son
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:23 PM)
4/1
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:25 PM)
hou or stl
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:30 PM)
Oswalt is firing
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:30 PM)
hou oops
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:32 PM)
4-1
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:35 PM)
4-2 colorado mid 2nd
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:40 PM)
oh THAT game
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:43 PM)
its all in the cup
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:52 PM)
Oswalt is coming out next inning
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:53 PM)
Chris, how do you stand with your futures with these teams?
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:04 PM)
don't need Houston
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:12 PM)
to the 7th
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:12 PM)
same in this town
The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:16 PM)
Pete, this was one of the most interesting and informative chats we have had in a long while. Takes a lot to keep me up this late. Thank you so very much and I do hope you return in the new year to talk about the superbowl. Thanks again
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:17 PM)
they were 80/1 in May
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:44 PM)
Thanks Major, it was apleasure and thanks everyone who participated
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:01 PM)
for everybodys info...2 chats next week
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:08 PM)
funny story a book e-mailed us the other day wondering if odds were correct ,they wanted to cancel bets
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:16 PM)
Can I go watch the game now?
Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:42 PM)
chatmaster, I have a question for Minnow
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:43 PM)
wed night cary fotias of www.equiform.com and friday john pricci of www.theyareatthepost.com to discuss breeders cup
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:43 PM)
Sure, why not Chris?
cerberus (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:48 PM)
odds on what, Chris?
Minnow (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:49 PM)
Thanks Pete, great chat
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:56 PM)
Pennant for Houston
Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:02 PM)
Thanks, see you guys in the forum
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:04 PM)
not bcn i hope
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:10 PM)
they took bets now want to cancel them
cerberus (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:14 PM)
maybe it was %dimes, they copy a lot
cerberus (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:19 PM)
5Dimes
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:31 PM)
not mentioning book, but not them
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:27:12 PM)
anyone see NC's Hoops recruiting class
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:00 PM)
Horse chats nice
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:07 PM)
great chat
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:30 PM)
They quit recruiting at North Carolina--can't compete with Duke
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:41 PM)
Buzz class was unreal
chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:52 PM)
gn all
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:01 PM)
great class-- Roy is tough with a full load of schollies
Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:11 PM)
good night chinamaster.
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:12 PM)
night chat and guys
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:13 PM)
Boy next year are they going to be tough
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:30 PM)
as good as your Duke
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:36 PM)
please
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:40 PM)
Paulus sophomore year
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:50 PM)
the next Bob Cousy is on the bench-lol
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:56 PM)
McRoberts second year---that is going to be a great team
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:30:05 PM)
he is unreal
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:30:50 PM)
good night- Fred Rouse out vs Duke suspended
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:31:07 PM)
will North Carolina be as good as Ohio State
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:31:25 PM)
they have screwed up Rouse I think
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:31:40 PM)
Kid was pressured to go to FSU
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:31:43 PM)
local kid
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:12 PM)
Mack Brown really figured he had a shot at him--
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:25 PM)
him and Ryan
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:41 PM)
Perilloux
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:42 PM)
USC will kill Texas
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:45 PM)
yup
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:53 PM)
I don't know
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:02 PM)
I love Texas' defense
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:03 PM)
Kid has a big mouth told everyone at LSU he was going to start
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:12 PM)
WR's for TX suck
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:31 PM)
i think Texas is tough--but I really question who they have played so far including Ohio State
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:49 PM)
They need a health Charles
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:57 PM)
Ohio St brutally coached team
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:03 PM)
horrible
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:10 PM)
Charles ankle
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:30 PM)
Richt can coach or what
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:42 PM)
I think Urban Meyer has choked her lately---have not been impressed with his decision making
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:53 PM)
was crying after LSU gm
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:08 PM)
he is getting Leak murdered every week
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:08 PM)
Richt is unbelievable-- but great classes year after year and stockpiles talent
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:17 PM)
His offfense does not seem to work agaisnt good teams
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:24 PM)
speed
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:37 PM)
in MW it worked slow conference
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:45 PM)
yes
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:03 PM)
needs a little tweaking
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:05 PM)
Meyer better beat FSU or he will feel fire
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:09 PM)
if it ever works at all
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:14 PM)
no
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:24 PM)
they will give him a couple years at least
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:41 PM)
needs better WR's injuries killed them there
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:49 PM)
You think Notre Dame is happy with Weiss
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:50 PM)
Caldwell out was killer
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:56 PM)
They love him
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:09 PM)
and to think Weis was their second choice
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:13 PM)
Quinn still sucks
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:26 PM)
But he doesn't kill you
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:32 PM)
true
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:37 PM)
Quinn is adequate
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:39 PM)
he should come out
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:40 PM)
doesn't suck
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:44 PM)
weak QB class
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:46 PM)
Weiss is behind his improvement and game planning
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:51 PM)
for sure
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:55 PM)
great coach
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:01 PM)
ND should have won
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:07 PM)
Yup
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:08 PM)
Young comes out
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:13 PM)
why
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:23 PM)
another guy who can't throw the ball
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:28 PM)
why not is the question
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:31 PM)
floats every pass
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:33 PM)
Another Eric Crouch
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:37 PM)
stock is as high as it is going to get
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:44 PM)
for what the CFL
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:57 PM)
no...if as QB doesn't work out, becomes WR
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:02 PM)
if he so desires
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:03 PM)
Young has no arm and doesn't set his feet
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:19 PM)
he has an arm...mechanics are the issue
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:36 PM)
wasn't a good QB in HS all run
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:54 PM)
Chance Mauck was highly regarded
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:59 PM)
huge
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:08 PM)
as is Romar at OU
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:11 PM)
he stinks
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:12 PM)
well....if Texas plans on winning a championship, they have to trust him
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:16 PM)
cannot just run
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:17 PM)
I think so too
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:33 PM)
Trebow be perfect for OU
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:37 PM)
Look at Oregon improving
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:45 PM)
YUP
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:52 PM)
OU wil be OK
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:53 PM)
and Stewart has barely played
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:57 PM)
just a down year
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:06 PM)
all young kids
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:06 PM)
OU is going to be awesome
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:16 PM)
have top 3 WR coming in
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:23 PM)
losing Stopps' brother last year at the time they did was devastating
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:37 PM)
awesone recruiter
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:41 PM)
yes
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:46 PM)
complete psychopath
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:52 PM)
jobless in two year
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:02 PM)
+ they took kids who had no shot at getting in school
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:03 PM)
that guy is a loser
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:18 PM)
chris, did you guys have a pitch count prop on Oswalt?
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:24 PM)
no
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:28 PM)
don't do pitches
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:32 PM)
losing prop
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:39 PM)
all they do is bet the Under
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:44 PM)
damn
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:53 PM)
carib had O/U at 103.4
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:58 PM)
103.5
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:08 PM)
Over is winner
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:14 PM)
and they took it down before I decided to bet it
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:23 PM)
yes
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:25 PM)
when they take it down
timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:39 PM)
late last night or early this morning
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:44 PM)
lol
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:45 PM)
what
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:11 PM)
Books got hammered on Suns O/U #
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:12 PM)
chris-- is Singletary the chalk in the BC
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:23 PM)
no way
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:28 PM)
west coming east
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:37 PM)
Europe horses love Belmont
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:46 PM)
they like the weather
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:53 PM)
very cool
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:03 PM)
and turf has give
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:06 PM)
no rock hard
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:16 PM)
is he out
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:21 PM)
Belmont is running 1 race per day on turf to save it
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:40 PM)
turf wouldn't be rock hard
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:42 PM)
he is in
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:44 PM)
LOL -- thought you were talking rock hard ten
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:56 PM)
watch O'Brien's horses
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:08 PM)
okay
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:23 PM)
horse in classic u will get nice price
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:27 PM)
Oratario
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:40 PM)
Prado-- will he do anything??
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:40 PM)
ran last week 4th over soft turf
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:53 PM)
BC day is all Jockeys
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:08 PM)
if Lost in the Fog loses prices will rocket
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:15 PM)
I don't like him at all
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:52 PM)
well time to run
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:54 PM)
i have won the past two years by going wide in exotics
chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:55 PM)
take care
BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:48:00 PM)
see ya man