total_square (Oct 19, 2005 8:50:33 PM)
hey adam

adam (Oct 19, 2005 8:51:38 PM)
HI JOHN

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:56:43 PM)
Hey, I'm here!

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:56:51 PM)
youre early

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:57:00 PM)
Yeah and I'm eating too

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:57:21 PM)
But I don't have enough for everyone

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:57:47 PM)
not nice sir

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:58:14 PM)
we usually get going 10 or so after the hour...fashionably late arriving crowd

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:58:33 PM)
And we're going againt the game tonight as well

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 8:59:04 PM)
evening all.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 8:59:16 PM)
Good evening

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:59:29 PM)
what game?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 8:59:38 PM)
thought the astros won the other night

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:00:41 PM)
OMG Gradysfalcon is here. I am honored and enjoy ALL of your posts

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:05 PM)
Ooops, he left

Minnow (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:11 PM)
scared him :)

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:14 PM)
Evening kids

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:22 PM)
Buzzy

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:23 PM)
Hello sir!

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:25 PM)
gents and lady

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:26 PM)
hey buzz

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:29 PM)
rusty

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:42 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:48 PM)
Hello Gents and lady and Yzer

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:48 PM)
Does anybody serve drinks in this chat thing?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:56 PM)
:)

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:01:57 PM)
What do you need sir

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:04 PM)
Anything on the rocks

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:06 PM)
Scotch, Vodka

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:06 PM)
watch it buzzy, I'll run your credit card bill through the roof.

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:14 PM)
Good luck with that

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:17 PM)
LOL

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:30 PM)
so russy, how about those MW jerseys.

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:02:48 PM)
they would be cool

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:09 PM)
How about the Major Wager male bikinis or "banana hammocks"

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:16 PM)
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:21 PM)
I'll wear one at the next Gaming Control meeting if you send one to me

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:30 PM)
sounds good

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:35 PM)
I sure hope you mean jersey pete :)

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:35 PM)
the jersey not the bikini

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:36 PM)
Get me and Oddessa wearing them

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:36 PM)
just dont tell them where you got it

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:03:53 PM)
lol

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:07 PM)
well pete I hope we get some turnout

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:16 PM)
baseball game kills these chats

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:17 PM)
They wouldn't let me wear my Majorwager hat at a World Poker Tour event--can you believe that??

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:25 PM)
they woudnt?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:36 PM)
It doesn't matter to me, I was hoping Reno would make it, but other than that, I'm glad to be herre

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:38 PM)
no logos

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:39 PM)
no logos of poker site

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:48 PM)
I told them it wasn't a poker site

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:49 PM)
mw isnt poker site

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:52 PM)
nimrods

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:04:52 PM)
reno's on a date

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:03 PM)
a date or on a mission?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:04 PM)
reno is walking his programmer

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:14 PM)
or at the doctor

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:25 PM)
a rash

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:29 PM)
ED

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:34 PM)
after returning from argentina

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:35 PM)
E.D.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:05:47 PM)
Could be ED too

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:08 PM)
that guy is funnier than shxt I think-- can't believe what he posts sometimes

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:25 PM)
i dont think we should post transcripts of chats

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:27 PM)
because

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:41 PM)
all I hear the next day on PM is...when is the chat going up

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:49 PM)
so people dont come and naturally bitch

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:50 PM)
show up if u want to see it

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:06:56 PM)
ya thats the best

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:01 PM)
I think turnout is low because of chatmaster.

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:08 PM)
:)

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:13 PM)
I didn't even think about it or I wouldn't post the stuff about reno

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:26 PM)
not fair to talk about a guy behind his back

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:29 PM)
ya know

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:31 PM)
pete...there was a comment in the forum about eugene...is he fully lecensed?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:33 PM)
:)

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:35 PM)
don't worry about that buzz

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:41 PM)
I was about to write something then thought this will go on the archive and I better not

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:42 PM)
russ, stevo, minnow and I make fun of you all the time

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:50 PM)
really not a big deal

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:07:58 PM)
Eugene is licensed however LVSC is not

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:02 PM)
F You Yzer

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:06 PM)
:)

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:08 PM)
LOL

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:15 PM)
lvsc 'still pending' since the sale?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:39 PM)
I believe the sale has yet to go through. That's over two years now

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:08:54 PM)
the kiddie porn thing had to make you laugh

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:06 PM)
Really?????

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:11 PM)
after all their strongarming efforts

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:12 PM)
However I may have sped up their process

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:27 PM)
No comment on that

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:30 PM)
:)

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:36 PM)
well said

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:09:47 PM)
ill say they got what they deserved

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:12 PM)
Isn't Pete getting licensed a pretty big deal in the industry

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:18 PM)
I think so

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:32 PM)
I do too

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:41 PM)
will books subscribe to more than one provieder?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:49 PM)
Do you know the difference between having a license and not having one?

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:55 PM)
no

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:10:56 PM)
$100k

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:22 PM)
A week before I got mine, my meetings were at Starbucks, a week after, the 10th floor Suite at Caesars

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:39 PM)
minnow can you post the link to dl java

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:41 PM)
u have to wear a suit now?

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:42 PM)
very good

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:45 PM)
lets not bash starbucks.

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:46 PM)
someone is asking in the messhall

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:49 PM)
i forget it

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:11:50 PM)
sometimes

Minnow (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:02 PM)
ok

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:04 PM)
Nobody wears suits in vegas

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:14 PM)
http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:26 PM)
warm up suits buzzy

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:34 PM)
hehe

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:12:43 PM)
I've seen a few leisure suits

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:13:09 PM)
how big is your staff pete?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:14:04 PM)
Right now it's still pending. I need OK's from Gaming but what I can tell you is Tom Vanderhoof and Cesar Robaina for sure. I expect two more full time oddsmakers by the time I start, maybe one more

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:14:33 PM)
I've had a lot of people calling me about openings

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:14:42 PM)
where has ceasar been since he left lvsc?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:09 PM)
He's on his own working independantly for a variety of customers

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:12 PM)
At home

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:21 PM)
That guy is awesome

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:26 PM)
yup he sure is

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:27 PM)
He can't wait to get back in the mix

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:34 PM)
glad to see you guys together again

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:15:51 PM)
just got to bring the one back from the indian ocean ;)

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:05 PM)
Tom is an excellent college number man. He set me up with the best college football numbers I've ever had before the season started

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:16 PM)
he is sleeping right now

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:33 PM)
Minnow promised me if I came to chat, she would take off her top

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:39 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:47 PM)
its off

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:50 PM)
Tom is an excellent odsmaker with the college foots and hoops.

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:16:58 PM)
where has he worked?

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:17:09 PM)
good question- I don't know him

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:17:32 PM)
LVSC fpr 6 years, before that, the honorable LeRoys for a decade and the Hard Rock before coming over to LVSC

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:17:58 PM)
he's not the big guy with the cherry tattoo on his forearm?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:18:17 PM)
I hope not, but I'll check his arm when I see him tomorrow

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:18:17 PM)
used to work with herbie

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:18:28 PM)
No, that's not him

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:18:33 PM)
good :)

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:05 PM)
Who's got a Q?

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:20 PM)
I do

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:20 PM)
i do

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:26 PM)
go ahead bg

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:28 PM)
bg first

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:32 PM)
girls first

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:36 PM)
haha

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:40 PM)
bg is a girl

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:40 PM)
ty

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:19:57 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:14 PM)
In 1954 who played 1st base for the Indians

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:20 PM)
HAHAHAHHAHAHA

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:29 PM)
Al Rosen?

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:39 PM)
lol

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:45 PM)
Giants win!!!!

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:48 PM)
Pete K, what do you think of the CGF? do you think I could work for you? thanks.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:20:59 PM)
CGF?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:07 PM)
dont bother

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:16 PM)
I am officially buried

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:27 PM)
lol, sorry

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:35 PM)
CGF---lol

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:38 PM)
Pete, if you could spend a minute and tell us what exactly the license allows you to do that you were unable to do before.

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:39 PM)
that was good

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:21:48 PM)
jason lane

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:22:18 PM)
Well, I have a few things in progress right now, two of which I can't talk about now as they are very proprietary...

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:22:51 PM)
but what it does allow me to do is accept checks from casinos for this type of work.

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:23:05 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:23:18 PM)
Wow, I typed that a long time ago

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:23:44 PM)
Does that mean LVSC can't accept checks from casinos??

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:23:47 PM)
so up until now you simply worked for people out of Nevada?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:24:48 PM)
LVSC is grandfathered in and can work without a license for the meantime. They will have to get their license soon I've been told. I have never worked for any offshore or internet book

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:08 PM)
Can I ask a really stupid question??

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:12 PM)
Yes

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:36 PM)
What kind of work will you do-- I assume consulting am I right??

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:38 PM)
is there any other kind from you Buzz?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:25:54 PM)
that was a stupid question buzz

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:06 PM)
or if you can't talk about that that is fine

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:07 PM)
Buzz is ruining this chat BOOOOOOOOOO Buzz

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:07 PM)
Well, primarily, the same I did for LVSC. Provide odds for anything the sportsbooks want

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:22 PM)
Thats what I was looking for--thanks

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:48 PM)
how much does a casino pay a month for a service?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:50 PM)
roghly

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:54 PM)
roughly

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:26:58 PM)
I'm developing a great new revenue stream for the books which may be ready very soon. Something very unique

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:22 PM)
It depends on the casinos size and needs

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:30 PM)
mvbski has a question for pete...fire away sir

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:31 PM)
Did I dodge that one ok?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:31 PM)
average

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:45 PM)
you cant move on till we get a figure :)

pmj18 (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:50 PM)
yes

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:27:54 PM)
can you name any of the people that will be working for you ?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:04 PM)
more than a ticket writer

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:12 PM)
5k?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:16 PM)
10K, 3k?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:19 PM)
roughly

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:28:57 PM)
mvbski is a little late, please check the previous chat, by the way mvbski how are you? Long time no hear.

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:11 PM)
i filled him in

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:15 PM)
Tom Vanderhoof and Cesar Robaina

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:15 PM)
mvbski, how does it feel to be ranked at #2 on my top offshore world posters list?

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:18 PM)
all is good Pete and I wish you the best of luck

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:27 PM)
just #2

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:27 PM)
Thank you sir!

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:30 PM)
mjulian is up

Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:37 PM)
Hey Pete, thanks for doing this chat. Generally speaking, how much of a line reflects the analysts probability assignment, and how much reflects what you believe the public will pay?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:29:40 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:30:33 PM)
Making the odds is not rocket science. My standard deviations are the range of numbers I get from my team, not a computer readout or the like...

pmj18 (Oct 19, 2005 9:30:55 PM)
even the major, cm

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:30:59 PM)
Selecting a winner is much tougher than making the odds.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:31:20 PM)
You're battling a losing percentage all of the way

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:31:46 PM)
I have the juice on my side and lots of take-out when setting up futures and things like that

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:32:22 PM)
There is a lot of math, but most oddsmakers, or good ones, have a really good feel for this sort of stuff

Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 9:32:56 PM)
OK, so let's say your guy comes up with USC -19 as his line, but everyone knows that folks will lay 24. What do you send the books for a line?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:32:58 PM)
Eugene is a great example of a guy who knows the players (athletes) and the bettors

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:33:13 PM)
That's a good question

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:33:24 PM)
Let's say the range of numbers come out like this...

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:33:30 PM)
19, 16, 22, 24

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:34:05 PM)
I made the 19 lets say. So that's when the discussion comes into play. Who is thinking what?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:34:25 PM)
So let's say the guy who made the 24 has a strong case for his high number...

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:34:53 PM)
I may say, ya know, I was thinking 19 but I was hoping someone would have higher, let's go with the high number

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:35:18 PM)
It's nothing more than that but communication during this time is critical....

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:35:30 PM)
I don't want someone to say 16 and not have an opinion.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:35:48 PM)
Why 16? What were you looking at that caused such a low number?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:36:30 PM)
It goes like that? These are the round table discussions that drove Roxy crazy sometimes. I had to douse my laughter sometimes

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:36:38 PM)
! not ?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:37:01 PM)
Does that help?

Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 9:37:33 PM)
yes I gotcha. it sounds like you factor the public's appetite somewhat and don't want to sell to low

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:04 PM)
mvbski has another for ya pete

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:07 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:18 PM)
will you send out two sets of numbers like LVSC does, his number and the consensus number

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:22 PM)
I have directors now who sometimes put out a line ust to see which way they take a first hit and report to me. It's a good indicator

Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 9:38:23 PM)
I knew I couldn't trust that goddamned Rangers play

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:03 PM)
No. There is one line that The Sports Club (nice name!) sends out, but if any of my clients want to see the full range of numbers, they are very welcome

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:31 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:32 PM)
I don't get that two sets of numbers

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:38 PM)
I never saw the reason to send out two sets of numbers

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:48 PM)
Sounds suspicious

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:39:56 PM)
like his opinion is better than his staffs ?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:03 PM)
No comment

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:06 PM)
:)

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:07 PM)
LOL

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:10 PM)
buck space is up

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:24 PM)
hey Pete I have an question similar to Mjulian

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:28 PM)
ok

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:28 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:31 PM)
gonna throw an example at you

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:37 PM)
shoot

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:45 PM)
UCONN-Rutgers foots this weekend

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:40:55 PM)
k

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:41:07 PM)
Uconn on their third string qb and are a 3pt dog

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:41:22 PM)
k

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:41:25 PM)
with their first string they are probably a 3 to 6 pt fav

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:41:54 PM)
we were looking at 3, 3 1/2

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:42:35 PM)
do you try to assign pt values to players at that level or do you make that line reversal based on the "oh shit uconn is playing some unknown freshman" and public will bury rutgers?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:42:54 PM)
lol, actually, you're close on the latter...

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:43:46 PM)
so truthfully you really do not even try to cap this new qb or if he is any good?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:43:53 PM)
I don't have a set point amount per player, but I think all of us have a feel how much a player is worth on the line. But sometimes the media shock of the news causes an overplay...

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:44:33 PM)
that's where the wise guys know how to play it back. I'm aleays telling directors not to over react to the news.

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:44:56 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:45:03 PM)
thanks Pete

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:45:07 PM)
Take the game off the board, maybe don't chase what's out there and put the game back up after we've found out what's going on

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:45:26 PM)
Sure

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:17 PM)
Do I have time to run to the fridge and get a beer?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:25 PM)
as long as u share

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:27 PM)
only if you get me one too

sledge (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:27 PM)
get me one

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:29 PM)
brb

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:34 PM)
bunch of drunks here

sledge (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:35 PM)
lol bucky

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:39 PM)
i have a question

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:42 PM)
ok

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:42 PM)
look who'se yapping

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:43 PM)
can i go now?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:44 PM)
back

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:53 PM)
yes please....GO

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:46:53 PM)
small studio pete?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:00 PM)
No fast runner

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:02 PM)
lol

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:17 PM)
Cookie is that you?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:22 PM)
major fire away

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:23 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:47:40 PM)
pete, in the licensing prosess what is the most difficult part. and secondly , do you have to proive you are a capable linesmaker and if so how do you do that

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:48:03 PM)
please excuse my typos :)

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:48:09 PM)
The most difficult part was the intrusiveness into your private life

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:48:29 PM)
can you exand on that?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:49:06 PM)
I mean everything was open game in my life for the past 20 years, fortunately, I workd for LVSC during that time and that was an excellent start to the investigation

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:49:35 PM)
bank/phone records etc?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:49:55 PM)
yes, what were they looking for? ties to org crime? stuff like that?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:50:04 PM)
Bank accounts, checks that were written 6 years ago, how long have I been with Jessy, my girlfriend, they came to my house and checked my personal emails, that sort of stuff

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:50:08 PM)
cards just got fukked

sledge (Oct 19, 2005 9:50:26 PM)
big time

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:50:37 PM)
Yes, any ties to anyone that they would deem unsuitable.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:06 PM)
As far as how good I was as an oddsmaker, I guess the amount of business I'll get will answer that for them

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:21 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:22 PM)
no offence, but living in begas doing what you do for 20 years, how do you stay away from people that would seem unaceptable?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:36 PM)
to them anyways

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:51:51 PM)
and are you especially careful now who you speak with and associate with?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:05 PM)
I live a boring life, my girlfriend is a cop and Sargeant in the Air Force, I surround myself with those people and that always looks good

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:31 PM)
just be glad scott moved :)

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:33 PM)
does she handcuff you somtimes, and if so what did gaming think of this

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:39 PM)
sorry coudnt resist :)

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:52:55 PM)
Very careful who I deal with Major. I have to. I do know lots of those people that they would think is unsuitable, but I now have to watch myself and use common sense in all of my dealings

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:19 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:31 PM)
must be a tough to do that, but I guess it becomes easy after time, or easier.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:32 PM)
Handcuffs are the first things guys joke about when I say that

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:42 PM)
but let me tell you, they hurt

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:46 PM)
:)

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:50 PM)
ok im done

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:52 PM)
Pete, can you get me a DP here, thanks?

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:53:57 PM)
ill get back to the money question later

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:01 PM)
get furry ones

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:12 PM)
what's the count?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:18 PM)
full

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:21 PM)
3 run Jack coming up

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:22 PM)
pitch low and away

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:54 PM)
mvb...fire away sor

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:54:57 PM)
Tony is wearing sun glasses

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:10 PM)
Pete Did i read that you will be working with Eugene some

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:14 PM)
Larussa that is

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:15 PM)
GDP....you heard it right here!

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:32 PM)
one run

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:38 PM)
3-1

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:41 PM)
awful toss

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:42 PM)
I haven't talked to Eugene in ages

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 9:55:54 PM)
throw sucked as well

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:06 PM)
Oh I thought i read that you were my mistake

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:07 PM)
I don't know what he's doing now other than working for LVSC

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:32 PM)
he makes the best Hockey numbers there are

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:48 PM)
Great hockey, NBA and baseball lines

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:56:57 PM)
absolutely the best there

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:57:07 PM)
and has some great injury info

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:57:22 PM)
I would always follow his Hockey leans

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:57:29 PM)
loves his hockey too, lives for it

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:57:44 PM)
He goes nuts when he watches on TV

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:03 PM)
many times he would hit me when we watched hockey

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:12 PM)
it hurt

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:27 PM)
I don't doubt it but he's much calmer now, does yoga I hear

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:29 PM)
rusty :)

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:34 PM)
last I heard he was suppling numbers to Stations is he not doing that anymore ?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:36 PM)
i never knew

jamesgaines (Oct 19, 2005 9:58:54 PM)
who puts out the strongest hockey #'s offshore now?

jamesgaines (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:01 PM)
Fernando?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:04 PM)
I don't know his persoanl accounts anymore to tell you the truth, he sure did a while ago

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:28 PM)
When I was with Stations I knew he was then

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:36 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 9:59:55 PM)
There were a lot of major strip locations that wanted his numbers fir sure. With all of the consolodation, I don't know where that's put him

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:02 PM)
(sp)

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:18 PM)
Pete, do you deal with NASCAR lines at all?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:25 PM)
Yes

sledge (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:31 PM)
bucky kills nascar

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:40 PM)
I do the futures and 10 matchups per week

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:42 PM)
nascar kills bucky

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:43 PM)
(sorry for bypassing chatmaster)

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:52 PM)
2 questions then:

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:54 PM)
james has a question pete

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:00:55 PM)
ok

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:04 PM)
buck...

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:09 PM)
Buck wait ur turn

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:15 PM)
james first then buck the buck

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:16 PM)
1) where do you come up with the matchups from? based on public interest?

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:18 PM)
or elce....

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:20 PM)
sorry

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:24 PM)
I withdraw

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:26 PM)
kick bucky out

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:27 PM)
james fire away

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:39 PM)
set him on fire

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:49 PM)
I protest the pullout

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:01:56 PM)
and pray

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:02:04 PM)
I like to matchup the big names that have public appeal, but I also like to have big favorites to mix it up a bit, no real formula though

sledge (Oct 19, 2005 10:02:35 PM)
now start studying bucky

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:02:41 PM)
There's always adjustments after the qualifying sessions of course

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:07 PM)
ok since jimmy is quiet.........

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:13 PM)
fire away buck

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:20 PM)
he just did

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:39 PM)
That's where you players could capitalize, hit the places that keep up their matchups during qualifying and hit them before they make any changes

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:03:47 PM)
chatmaster are you related to chinamaster?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:00 PM)
u want to get booted again son?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:05 PM)
keep it up

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:12 PM)
What about Margarat Cho's A_smaster

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:14 PM)
yea boot him

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:15 PM)
2) what factors do you base your openers on? past performance? recent races? do you factor in a dale jr or tony strwart fandom into your opener?

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:50 PM)
Buck do you want him to just give you his power ratings??

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:04:54 PM)
With this new format, you can always look at a variety of things...

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:07 PM)
Who's getting or needs to get into that final 10...

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:17 PM)
I say who ever has the fastest car will win...no

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:24 PM)
Where do they stand historically at that track, that's real important

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:29 PM)
bg, take the mets tomorrow.

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:05:37 PM)
Buzzy there are a TON of ways to handicap nascar - just curious how the pros develop their openers

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:05 PM)
Jeff Gordon likes that northern Cal track with lots of curves, he's very successful there

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:32 PM)
Others like and perform well at other venues. You need to know who's successful at what tracks and who's going good

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:38 PM)
pete will you put out more nascar matchups and props than Stations ?

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:39 PM)
do you think qualifying matchups are typically "less sharp" lines than the actual race?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:06:39 PM)
Jeff Gordon is not going good!

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:07:11 PM)
Buck that's a tough one

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:07:37 PM)
It depends on who's doing the lines and if they know what they're doing?

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:07:49 PM)
I will do them :)

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:07:52 PM)
mvb, how many matchups does the Stations do?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:00 PM)
certain drivers tend to qualify well

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:05 PM)
and win busch races

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:08 PM)
true chatmaster

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:11 PM)
10-15 a race

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:25 PM)
I guess I could do more if they wanted more

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:41 PM)
he only sends me his stuff when he remembers to

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:08:50 PM)
I believe Micah is their NASCAR guy and he does a lot for Stations

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:00 PM)
yes you are correct

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:12 PM)
He's a good man

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:25 PM)
yes we worked together for a few years

bostongambler (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:32 PM)
4-1

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:39 PM)
Pete, why do you think nascar O/U's are not more mainstream?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:40 PM)
He's Chucky II

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:09:44 PM)
but he has a A Hole for a boss

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:04 PM)
Easy there. I am friends with AM

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:14 PM)
Well...

mvbski (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:24 PM)
I use to call him connect a dot

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:24 PM)
For certain, it's a wiseguy play

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:10:52 PM)
The schmo off the street isn't even looking that way

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:11 PM)
The guy who's looking is the guy who's betting

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:19 PM)
we have a question from #21

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:36 PM)
fire away son

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:40 PM)
nOT MANY OF THOSE CASUAL PLAYERS ARE LOOKING AT nascar

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:49 PM)
thanks Pete

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:11:51 PM)
Sorry about the CAPS

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:07 PM)
Pete, I apologize if this has been covered, but what is the reaction to the rule changes in hockey?

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:09 PM)
terrible question Franchise - simply awful

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:21 PM)
(kidding)

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:24 PM)
Wait and see on both sides of the counter

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:35 PM)
But the scoring is leveling off already

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:12:40 PM)
i screened it first buck

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:02 PM)
For every rule change hockey has employed, it takes a few weeks for theplayers and coaches to adjust

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:25 PM)
and the refs

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:26 PM)
I don't suspect we'll have these high a totals in the near future

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:27 PM)
how much time is spent on NHL lines? like 10 minutes?

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:45 PM)
lol....no, it's difficlut

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:13:46 PM)
because it seems to me it's just throw up a 6 -130 and some games throw up a 6.5 -110

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:14:20 PM)
What I don't like is the places that log the 1 1/2 lines instead of the ML

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:14:54 PM)
any chance of 60 minute wagering?

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:06 PM)
because I really miss the -.5 +.5

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:13 PM)
I want my data in ML form not the obscured goal lines on every game

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:24 PM)
Yeah, fir sure

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:26 PM)
for

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:37 PM)
to have to take a -250 fav at -250 instead of -.5 -160 sucks.. glad to hear 60 mins on the way :)

Mjulian (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:39 PM)
both should be offerred

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:15:51 PM)
We haven't had a request yet, but I can see it

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:16:23 PM)
chris fire away

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:16:36 PM)
thanks Pete.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:16:36 PM)
Take -.5 -160over the -250. That goal line is like -210

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:16:55 PM)
So far the internets are way off in their conversions

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:17:03 PM)
Really bad lines

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:17:46 PM)
Pete why does Vegas do College Baseball lines when nobody there has a clue,example Harvard-Fullerton Gm

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:18:22 PM)
Well college baseball is really reserved for the College World Series, I don't see it elsewhere do you?

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:18:35 PM)
Stardust etc

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:18:49 PM)
My man Tom Vanderhoof is great with college baseball, I have great confidence in his lines

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:18:49 PM)
Being Honest nobody in Vegas has a Clue on it

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:04 PM)
trust me offshore copied what I put up

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:19 PM)
Harvard + 210 vs Fullerton was worst line this decade

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:30 PM)
But you're right, it seems everyone is an "expert" when it falls into play that time of year

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:33 PM)
ask anyone who know College Baseball

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:39 PM)
Yup

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:19:55 PM)
Oly did a good job with there numbers for sure

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:08 PM)
Only put up Gm's I liked

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:21 PM)
That's the way to do it for that stuff

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:43 PM)
Thanks

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:50 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:20:58 PM)
I don't have the same luxury as Chris does at Oly

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:21:09 PM)
He can pretty much do what he wants

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:21:19 PM)
If I get a request, I'm compelled to do it

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:21:36 PM)
I wish I had your angle

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:17 PM)
Do I have time to get another beer?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:26 PM)
3

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:27 PM)
2

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:27 PM)
1

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:31 PM)
bak yet?

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:38 PM)
unprofessional chatmaster.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:43 PM)
back

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:45 PM)
Pete, take all the time you need son

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:22:54 PM)
If anybody has a question for Pete, please send me a PM and I will announce you in turn. Thanks.

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:06 PM)
how's the game going?

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:14 PM)
3-1 b6

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:19 PM)
man on 2 2 out

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:23 PM)
4-1 son

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:23 PM)
4/1

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:25 PM)
hou or stl

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:30 PM)
Oswalt is firing

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:30 PM)
hou oops

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:32 PM)
4-1

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:35 PM)
4-2 colorado mid 2nd

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:40 PM)
oh THAT game

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:43 PM)
its all in the cup

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:52 PM)
Oswalt is coming out next inning

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:23:53 PM)
Chris, how do you stand with your futures with these teams?

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:04 PM)
don't need Houston

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:12 PM)
to the 7th

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:12 PM)
same in this town

The_Major (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:16 PM)
Pete, this was one of the most interesting and informative chats we have had in a long while. Takes a lot to keep me up this late. Thank you so very much and I do hope you return in the new year to talk about the superbowl. Thanks again

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:17 PM)
they were 80/1 in May

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:24:44 PM)
Thanks Major, it was apleasure and thanks everyone who participated

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:01 PM)
for everybodys info...2 chats next week

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:08 PM)
funny story a book e-mailed us the other day wondering if odds were correct ,they wanted to cancel bets

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:16 PM)
Can I go watch the game now?

Buck_Swope (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:42 PM)
chatmaster, I have a question for Minnow

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:43 PM)
wed night cary fotias of www.equiform.com and friday john pricci of www.theyareatthepost.com to discuss breeders cup

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:43 PM)
Sure, why not Chris?

cerberus (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:48 PM)
odds on what, Chris?

Minnow (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:49 PM)
Thanks Pete, great chat

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:25:56 PM)
Pennant for Houston

Pete_K (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:02 PM)
Thanks, see you guys in the forum

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:04 PM)
not bcn i hope

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:10 PM)
they took bets now want to cancel them

cerberus (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:14 PM)
maybe it was %dimes, they copy a lot

cerberus (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:19 PM)
5Dimes

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:26:31 PM)
not mentioning book, but not them

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:27:12 PM)
anyone see NC's Hoops recruiting class

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:00 PM)
Horse chats nice

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:07 PM)
great chat

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:30 PM)
They quit recruiting at North Carolina--can't compete with Duke

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:41 PM)
Buzz class was unreal

chatmaster (Oct 19, 2005 10:28:52 PM)
gn all

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:01 PM)
great class-- Roy is tough with a full load of schollies

Yzerman#19 (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:11 PM)
good night chinamaster.

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:12 PM)
night chat and guys

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:13 PM)
Boy next year are they going to be tough

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:30 PM)
as good as your Duke

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:36 PM)
please

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:40 PM)
Paulus sophomore year

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:50 PM)
the next Bob Cousy is on the bench-lol

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:29:56 PM)
McRoberts second year---that is going to be a great team

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:30:05 PM)
he is unreal

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:30:50 PM)
good night- Fred Rouse out vs Duke suspended

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:31:07 PM)
will North Carolina be as good as Ohio State

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:31:25 PM)
they have screwed up Rouse I think

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:31:40 PM)
Kid was pressured to go to FSU

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:31:43 PM)
local kid

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:12 PM)
Mack Brown really figured he had a shot at him--

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:25 PM)
him and Ryan

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:41 PM)
Perilloux

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:42 PM)
USC will kill Texas

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:45 PM)
yup

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:32:53 PM)
I don't know

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:02 PM)
I love Texas' defense

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:03 PM)
Kid has a big mouth told everyone at LSU he was going to start

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:12 PM)
WR's for TX suck

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:31 PM)
i think Texas is tough--but I really question who they have played so far including Ohio State

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:49 PM)
They need a health Charles

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:33:57 PM)
Ohio St brutally coached team

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:03 PM)
horrible

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:10 PM)
Charles ankle

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:30 PM)
Richt can coach or what

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:42 PM)
I think Urban Meyer has choked her lately---have not been impressed with his decision making

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:34:53 PM)
was crying after LSU gm

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:08 PM)
he is getting Leak murdered every week

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:08 PM)
Richt is unbelievable-- but great classes year after year and stockpiles talent

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:17 PM)
His offfense does not seem to work agaisnt good teams

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:24 PM)
speed

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:37 PM)
in MW it worked slow conference

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:35:45 PM)
yes

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:03 PM)
needs a little tweaking

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:05 PM)
Meyer better beat FSU or he will feel fire

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:09 PM)
if it ever works at all

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:14 PM)
no

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:24 PM)
they will give him a couple years at least

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:41 PM)
needs better WR's injuries killed them there

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:49 PM)
You think Notre Dame is happy with Weiss

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:50 PM)
Caldwell out was killer

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:36:56 PM)
They love him

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:09 PM)
and to think Weis was their second choice

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:13 PM)
Quinn still sucks

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:26 PM)
But he doesn't kill you

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:32 PM)
true

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:37 PM)
Quinn is adequate

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:39 PM)
he should come out

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:40 PM)
doesn't suck

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:44 PM)
weak QB class

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:46 PM)
Weiss is behind his improvement and game planning

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:51 PM)
for sure

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:37:55 PM)
great coach

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:01 PM)
ND should have won

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:07 PM)
Yup

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:08 PM)
Young comes out

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:13 PM)
why

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:23 PM)
another guy who can't throw the ball

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:28 PM)
why not is the question

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:31 PM)
floats every pass

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:33 PM)
Another Eric Crouch

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:37 PM)
stock is as high as it is going to get

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:44 PM)
for what the CFL

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:38:57 PM)
no...if as QB doesn't work out, becomes WR

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:02 PM)
if he so desires

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:03 PM)
Young has no arm and doesn't set his feet

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:19 PM)
he has an arm...mechanics are the issue

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:36 PM)
wasn't a good QB in HS all run

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:54 PM)
Chance Mauck was highly regarded

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:39:59 PM)
huge

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:08 PM)
as is Romar at OU

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:11 PM)
he stinks

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:12 PM)
well....if Texas plans on winning a championship, they have to trust him

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:16 PM)
cannot just run

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:17 PM)
I think so too

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:33 PM)
Trebow be perfect for OU

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:37 PM)
Look at Oregon improving

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:45 PM)
YUP

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:52 PM)
OU wil be OK

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:53 PM)
and Stewart has barely played

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:40:57 PM)
just a down year

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:06 PM)
all young kids

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:06 PM)
OU is going to be awesome

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:16 PM)
have top 3 WR coming in

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:23 PM)
losing Stopps' brother last year at the time they did was devastating

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:37 PM)
awesone recruiter

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:41 PM)
yes

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:46 PM)
complete psychopath

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:41:52 PM)
jobless in two year

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:02 PM)
+ they took kids who had no shot at getting in school

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:03 PM)
that guy is a loser

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:18 PM)
chris, did you guys have a pitch count prop on Oswalt?

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:24 PM)
no

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:28 PM)
don't do pitches

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:32 PM)
losing prop

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:39 PM)
all they do is bet the Under

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:44 PM)
damn

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:53 PM)
carib had O/U at 103.4

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:42:58 PM)
103.5

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:08 PM)
Over is winner

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:14 PM)
and they took it down before I decided to bet it

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:23 PM)
yes

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:25 PM)
when they take it down

timbo37 (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:39 PM)
late last night or early this morning

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:44 PM)
lol

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:43:45 PM)
what

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:11 PM)
Books got hammered on Suns O/U #

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:12 PM)
chris-- is Singletary the chalk in the BC

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:23 PM)
no way

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:28 PM)
west coming east

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:37 PM)
Europe horses love Belmont

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:46 PM)
they like the weather

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:44:53 PM)
very cool

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:03 PM)
and turf has give

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:06 PM)
no rock hard

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:16 PM)
is he out

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:21 PM)
Belmont is running 1 race per day on turf to save it

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:40 PM)
turf wouldn't be rock hard

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:42 PM)
he is in

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:44 PM)
LOL -- thought you were talking rock hard ten

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:45:56 PM)
watch O'Brien's horses

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:08 PM)
okay

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:23 PM)
horse in classic u will get nice price

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:27 PM)
Oratario

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:40 PM)
Prado-- will he do anything??

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:40 PM)
ran last week 4th over soft turf

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:46:53 PM)
BC day is all Jockeys

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:08 PM)
if Lost in the Fog loses prices will rocket

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:15 PM)
I don't like him at all

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:52 PM)
well time to run

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:54 PM)
i have won the past two years by going wide in exotics

chris@olympic (Oct 19, 2005 10:47:55 PM)
take care

BuzzRavanaugh (Oct 19, 2005 10:48:00 PM)
see ya man